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** Prince Alexander was a very shrewd politician who spent most of his life feuding with other Russian princes. Also, he submitted to the Mongols and paid tribute to them after seeing them obliterate nearly every other Russian state - in fact, the army he led against the Teutonics did include some mongol cavalry. The film -- following a [[OlderThanTheyThink tradition]] much older than Stalinism -- focuses on his younger years.
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** Prince Alexander was a very shrewd politician who spent most of his life feuding with other Russian princes. Also, he submitted to the Mongols and paid tribute to them after seeing them obliterate nearly every other Russian russian state - in fact, the army he led against the Teutonics did include some mongol cavalry. The film -- following a [[OlderThanTheyThink tradition]] much older than Stalinism -- focuses on his younger years.
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** Prince Alexander was a very shrewd politician who spent most of his life feuding with other Russian princes. Also, he submitted to the Mongols and paid tribute to them after seeing them obliterate nearly every other russian state - in fact, the army he led against the Teutonics did include some mongol cavalry. The film -- following a [[OlderThanTheyThink tradition]] much older than Stalinism -- focuses on his younger years.
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** Prince Alexander was a very shrewd politician who spent most of his life feuding with other Russian princes. Also, he submitted to the Mongols and paid tribute to them after seeing them obliterate nearly every other russian Russian state - in fact, the army he led against the Teutonics did include some mongol cavalry. The film -- following a [[OlderThanTheyThink tradition]] much older than Stalinism -- focuses on his younger years.
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* PropRecycling: The distinctive helmets worn by the Knights reappear even after one wearer has been killed.
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* RecycledProp: The distinctive helmets worn by the Knights reappear even after one wearer has been killed.
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** Finally, Tverdillo qualifies big time. He betrayed the Russian people and helped the German Teutonic knights in their crimes. It was very satisfying to see him being torn by the mob.
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** Finally, Tverdillo qualifies big time. He betrayed the Russian people and helped the German Teutonic knights in their crimes. It [[spoiler:It was very satisfying to see him being torn by the mob.]]
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* GettingCrapPastTheRadar: The film features a Russian Orthodox saint as a protagonist, presents medieval Russia in a positive light, and glorifies non-Communist Russian patriotism. All these things were looked down upon by Soviet authorities and intellectuals critical of what was termed Great Russian Chauvinism, yet Eisenstein got away with it.
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%% * GettingCrapPastTheRadar: The film features a Russian Orthodox saint as a protagonist, presents medieval Russia in a positive light, GettingCrapPastThe Radar: Due to overwhelming and glorifies non-Communist Russian patriotism. All these things were looked down upon by Soviet authorities and intellectuals critical of what was termed Great Russian Chauvinism, yet Eisenstein got away with it.persistent misuse, GCPTR is on-page examples only until 01 June 2021. If you are reading this in the future, please check the trope page to make sure your example fits the current definition.
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* NotableOriginalMusic: Prokofiev's score.
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* BigBad: Hermann von Balk, Grand Master of the Teutonic Knights invading Russia.
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* HateSink: The entire army of the Teutonic Knights, since they slaughter innocent civilians and throw crying toddlers into bonfire. Grand Master in particular since he is their leader is this.
** The Bishop counts too. He might not directly ordered the crimes, but he gave his blessings to them.
** Finally, Tverdillo qualifies big time. He betrayed the Russian people and helped the German Teutonic knights in their crimes. It was very satisfying to see him being torn by the mob.
** The Bishop counts too. He might not directly ordered the crimes, but he gave his blessings to them.
** Finally, Tverdillo qualifies big time. He betrayed the Russian people and helped the German Teutonic knights in their crimes. It was very satisfying to see him being torn by the mob.
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* ProtagonistTitle: ''Alexander Nevsky''.
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* TheSociopath: Grand Master Hermann von Balk, a fanatic who is willing to slaughter villages and personally throw babies into fires to conquer Russia.
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It is worth noting that because the movie was made during the Stalinist regime, it also contains quite a few Soviet political subtexts, such as the anti-religious, anti-German stance of the communist government of that time and the portrayal of Nevsky as a wise and courageous leader―reflecting how Stalin had himself portrayed during his "cult of personality" campaign. Unfortunately for Eisenstein, the film debuted just months before the non-aggression treaty between the USSR and Nazi Germany, and he was forced to pull the movie from theaters―until the German invasion of Russia in 1941, after which it was hurried into theaters again. Despite its (''very'') [[{{Anvilicious}} heavy-handed]] Soviet subtext, the film is still considered an excellent work and enjoyed great success and continuing influence both in and outside the Soviet Union.
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It is worth noting that because the movie was made during the Stalinist regime, it also contains quite a few Soviet political subtexts, such as the anti-religious, anti-German stance of the communist government of that time and the portrayal of Nevsky as a wise and courageous leader―reflecting how Stalin had himself portrayed during his "cult of personality" campaign. Unfortunately for Eisenstein, the film debuted just months before the non-aggression treaty between the USSR and Nazi Germany, and he was forced to pull the movie from theaters―until the German invasion of Russia in 1941, after which it was hurried into theaters again. Despite its (''very'') [[{{Anvilicious}} heavy-handed]] Soviet subtext, the The film is still considered an excellent work and enjoyed great success and continuing influence both in and outside the Soviet Union.
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You can watch ''Alexander Nevsky'' [[https://russianfilmhub.com/movies/alexander-nevsky-1938/ here]].
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* BattleInterruptingDuel: Nevsky and the Grandmaster duel each other. Unfortunately; it ends up looking somewhat silly to modern audiences (at one point the Grandmaster seems to teleport into the middle of the screen).
* BeardOfEvil: Inverted. The Russians have beards while the Teutonic Knights are all clean-shaven, which is a [[ArtisticLicenseHistory departure from history]]: their rule ''required'' them to sport a beard. This was probably for patriotic reasons, as the Russian Orthodox Church ''also'' once required its members to have beards and not shave, so it serves as an easy way to highlight difference from the Russian perspective.
* BeardOfEvil: Inverted. The Russians have beards while the Teutonic Knights are all clean-shaven, which is a [[ArtisticLicenseHistory departure from history]]: their rule ''required'' them to sport a beard. This was probably for patriotic reasons, as the Russian Orthodox Church ''also'' once required its members to have beards and not shave, so it serves as an easy way to highlight difference from the Russian perspective.
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* BattleInterruptingDuel: BattleHaltingDuel: Nevsky and the Grandmaster duel each other. Unfortunately; it ends up looking somewhat silly to modern audiences (at one point the Grandmaster seems to teleport into the middle of the screen).
* BeardOfEvil: Inverted. The Russians have beards while the Teutonic Knights are all clean-shaven, which is a [[ArtisticLicenseHistory departure from history]]: their rule ''required'' them to sport a beard. This was probably for patriotic reasons, as the Russian Orthodox Church ''also'' once required its members to have beards and not shave, so it serves as an easy way to highlightdifference differences from the Russian perspective.
* BeardOfEvil: Inverted. The Russians have beards while the Teutonic Knights are all clean-shaven, which is a [[ArtisticLicenseHistory departure from history]]: their rule ''required'' them to sport a beard. This was probably for patriotic reasons, as the Russian Orthodox Church ''also'' once required its members to have beards and not shave, so it serves as an easy way to highlight
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You can watch Alexander Nevsky [[https://russianfilmhub.com/movies/alexander-nevsky-1938/ here]].
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* TinTyrant: The Grand Master.
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* TinTyrant: The Grand Master.Master and the higherups in the Knights wear horned or decorated helmets that would make a fantasy BlackKnight proud.
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** Prince Alexander was a very shrewd politician who spent most of his life feuding with other Russian princes. The film -- following a [[OlderThanTheyThink tradition]] much older than Stalinism -- focuses on his younger years.
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** Prince Alexander was a very shrewd politician who spent most of his life feuding with other Russian princes. Also, he submitted to the Mongols and paid tribute to them after seeing them obliterate nearly every other russian state - in fact, the army he led against the Teutonics did include some mongol cavalry. The film -- following a [[OlderThanTheyThink tradition]] much older than Stalinism -- focuses on his younger years.
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* BattleInterruptingDuel: Nevsky and the Grandmaster duel each other. Unfortunately; it ends up looking somewhat silly to modern audiences (at one point the Grandmaster seems to teleport into the middle of the screen).
* {{Foreshadowing}}: Ignat the blacksmith notes that the chainmail shirt he giot is too short. He notes the same thing after [[spoiler:he's stabbed in a neck by a prisoner]].
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* ISurrenderSuckers: [[spoiler: Ananias surrenders to Ignat, then grabs his knife and stabs him in the throat before running away]].
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* ISurrenderSuckers: [[spoiler: Ananias Tverdilo surrenders to Ignat, then grabs his knife and stabs him in the throat before running away]].
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* KarmicDeath: [[spoiler: Ananias, the traitor, is turned over to the people of Novgorod by Nevsky, and is subsequently killed by the mob]].
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* KarmicDeath: [[spoiler: Ananias, Tverdilo, the traitor, is turned over to the people of Novgorod by Nevsky, and is subsequently killed by the mob]].
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* WouldHurtAChild: The Knights are introduced tossing live children into bonfires.
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* NoCelebritiesWereHarmed: It is ''possible'' that the archbishop is supposed to represent particularly the then [[UsefulNotes/ThePope Pope, Pius XI]], who was ardently anti-communist; the cardinal bears a very superficial resemblance to the rather emaciated. Alexander, of course, stands for [[UsefulNotes/JosefStalin Stalin]], as he wished to be considered, though there is no physical resemblance.
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* NoCelebritiesWereHarmed: It is ''possible'' that the archbishop is supposed to represent particularly the then [[UsefulNotes/ThePope Pope, Pius XI]], who was ardently anti-communist; the cardinal bears a very superficial resemblance to the rather emaciated.emaciated pontific. Alexander, of course, stands for [[UsefulNotes/JosefStalin Stalin]], as he wished to be considered, though there is no physical resemblance.
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-->"Let all come and be our guests. But he who comes to us sword in hand, by the sword shall he perish. On this Russia stands and will forever stand."
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* DangerThinIce: As the Rus prepare to meet the invading Teutonic Knights on Lake Chudskoe[[note]]also called Lake Peipus in Western sources[[/note]], Alexander is warned that the ice is thin and might crack. In response, Alexander notes that the Germans' armor, not to mention their warhorses, are heavier than those of the Rus, with the implication that the invaders are at greater risk from the ice's condition. During the ensuing battle, the famous "Battle on the Ice", the retreating German force blunders onto or is driven onto a section of the lake where the ice is relatively thin, and many of the knights drown when the ice gives way.
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* BloodlessCarnage: Not a single drop of blood is shed in the film, despite an impressive body count. Perhaps due to a SpecialEffectsFailure, as it was much more difficult to create realistic gore 70 years ago.
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* BloodlessCarnage: Not a single drop of blood is shed in the film, despite an impressive body count. Perhaps due to a SpecialEffectsFailure, as it was much more difficult to create realistic gore 70 years ago.in the 1930s.
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** Knowing the Bylins (heroic folk stories) makes Vasiliy Buslay look more like HeroicComedicSociopath. Remember his plans of going to Volga to "play with the [[AxCrazy axe]]"
* [[strike:[[HollywoodTactics Hollywood]]]] [[HollywoodTactics Mosfilm Tactics]]: Some instances, but the writers tried to follow the course of the battle as described by Old Russian chronicles.
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** Knowing the Bylins (heroic folk stories) makes Vasiliy Buslay look more like HeroicComedicSociopath. Remember his plans of going to Volga to "play with the [[AxCrazy axe]]"
* [[strike:[[HollywoodTactics Hollywood]]]] [[HollywoodTactics Mosfilm Tactics]]: Some instances, but the writers tried to follow the course of the battle as described by Old Russian chronicles.axe]]".
* [[strike:[[HollywoodTactics Hollywood]]]] [[HollywoodTactics Mosfilm Tactics]]: Some instances, but the writers tried to follow the course of the battle as described by Old Russian chronicles.
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* LightIsNotGood: The Knights and monks are wearing pristine-white capes and robes.
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* NoCelebritiesWereHarmed: It is ''possible'' that the archbishop is supposed to represent particularly the then [[UsefulNotes/ThePope Pope, Pius XII]], who was ardently anti-communist and was regarded by some (then as now) as inclined to favor the Germans; the cardinal bears a very superficial resemblence to the rather emaciated [[http://www.history.ucsb.edu/faculty/marcuse/classes/33d/projects/church/churchpix/PiusXII.gif Pontiff]]. Alexander, of course, stands for [[UsefulNotes/JosefStalin Stalin]], as he wished to be considered, though there is no physical resemblence.
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* [[strike:[[HollywoodTactics Hollywood]]]] [[HollywoodTactics Mosfilm Tactics]]: Some instances, but the writers tried to follow the course of the battle as described by Old Russian chronicles.
* NoCelebritiesWereHarmed: It is ''possible'' that the archbishop is supposed to represent particularly the then [[UsefulNotes/ThePope Pope, PiusXII]], XI]], who was ardently anti-communist and was regarded by some (then as now) as inclined to favor the Germans; anti-communist; the cardinal bears a very superficial resemblence resemblance to the rather emaciated [[http://www.history.ucsb.edu/faculty/marcuse/classes/33d/projects/church/churchpix/PiusXII.gif Pontiff]]. emaciated. Alexander, of course, stands for [[UsefulNotes/JosefStalin Stalin]], as he wished to be considered, though there is no physical resemblence.resemblance.
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* UncertainDoom: The German Bishop is last seen lying down on the ice and later we see the knights drowning. As he is not seen with the arrested leaders afterwards, it can be assumed he drowned along with the majority of the knights.
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* WarriorPoet: Alexander is as good with words as he is with swords. His {{Sidekick}} Gavrilo Oleksich also qualifies.
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* WarriorPoet: Alexander is as good with words as he is with swords. His {{Sidekick}} {{sidekick}} Gavrilo Oleksich also qualifies.
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* [[YeOldeButcheredeEnglishe Ye Old Butcherede Russhyanne]] : All the Russian characters speak ''faux'' Old Russian, sometimes bordering on [[YouNoTakeCandle Yoda Speak]]. Unusual word order have the English subtitles on [=DVD=].
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* [[YeOldeButcheredeEnglishe Ye Old Butcherede Russhyanne]] : All the Russian characters speak ''faux'' faux Old Russian, sometimes bordering on [[YouNoTakeCandle Yoda Speak]]. Unusual word order have the English subtitles on [=DVD=].
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* TheBlacksmith: Ignat, who is also a BadassGrandpa.
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* TheBlacksmith: Ignat, who is also a BadassGrandpa.
* BraidsOfAction: Vasilisa has these, though to be fair, ''all'' the women seem to have them, regardless of whether they participate in the battle.
* CasualDangerDialogue: Between Alexander and Ignat while fighting off Teutonic Knights.
* CockFight: Olga promises marriage to the man who fights more bravely in the battle, leading Vasili and Gavrilo to compete during the battle. [[spoiler: Ultimately subverted, as Gavrilo is mortally wounded and Vasili refuses to marry Olga as it would imply that Gavrilo was a coward]].
* LoveTriangle: With Vasili and Gavrilo competing for the affections of Olga. [[spoiler: Ultimately subverted, as Gavrilo dies and Vasili chooses to marry Vasilisa instead]].
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* TomboyAndGirlyGirl: Vasilisa and Olga, respectively.
* TomboyAndGirlyGirl: Vasilisa and Olga, respectively.
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* BigBadassBattleSequence: The Battle on the Ice, which takes up the entire middle portion of the film. It was probably the largest example of this trope that existed in 1938, and had an enduring influence on subsequent battle scenes in movies.
* BlackCloak: Many of the Teutonic monks, which makes them immediately recognizable as ObviouslyEvil.
* BlackCloak: Many of the Teutonic monks, which makes them immediately recognizable as ObviouslyEvil.
* DeathIsDramatic: [[spoiler: Gavrilo Olexich, who gets his own DyingSpeech]].
* DueToTheDead: A lengthy sequence after the battle pans over the Russian dead, with some of them calling out the names of their loved ones with their dying breaths, with the lyrics on the soundtrack being an ode to those who gave their lives for the freedom of Russia.
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* EpicMovieEpicMovie: A BattleEpic, to be specific. It was one of the largest cinematic productions in Russian history at the time, backed directly by the Kremlin.
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* ISurrenderSuckers: [[spoiler: Ananias surrenders to Ignat, then grabs his knife and stabs him in the throat before running away]].
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* KarmicDeath: [[spoiler: Ananias, the traitor, is turned over to the people of Novgorod by Nevsky, and is subsequently killed by the mob]].
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* MickeyMousing: The Battle on the Ice is edited to sync with Prokofiev's soundtrack. Eisenstein and Prokofiev got the idea after a visit to Creator/WaltDisney himself.
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* SatelliteLoveInterest: Olga to both Vasili Buslai and Gavrilo Olexich. She doesn't get much characterization beyond being happy when the Russians win [[spoiler: and sad when Gavrilo dies]].
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* SinisterMinister: The bishop who rides with the Teutonic knights.
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* SpitefulSpit: Gavrilo Olexich does this to one Teutonic knight before putting an ax in his neck.
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* BadassBeard: Alexander, and, what the heck, almost the entire Russian army. The Teutonic Knights are all clean-shaven, which is a [[ArtisticLicenseHistory departure from history]]: their rule ''required'' them to sport a BeardOfEvil. This was probably for patriotic reasons, as the Russian Orthodox Church ''also'' once required its members to have beards and not shave, so it serves as an easy way to highlight difference from the Russian perspective.
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* BadassBeard: Alexander, and, what the heck, almost the entire Russian army.
* BeardOfEvil: Inverted. The Russians have beards while the Teutonic Knights are all clean-shaven, which is a [[ArtisticLicenseHistory departure from history]]: their rule ''required'' them to sport aBeardOfEvil.beard. This was probably for patriotic reasons, as the Russian Orthodox Church ''also'' once required its members to have beards and not shave, so it serves as an easy way to highlight difference from the Russian perspective.
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* ColourCodedForYourConvenience: In the battle on the ice, the Teutonic Knights wear white surcoats and bucket-shaped helmets, the Russians wear dark clothing and conical helmets.
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* GoodRepublicEvilEmpire: Novgorod at its height was a feudal republic with the prince being elected by the city council, severely limited in power and mostly just a figurehead -- unless there was an imminent military threat. By contrast, the Knights were vassals of the HolyRomanEmpire, and the Mongols... You get the idea.
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* GoodRepublicEvilEmpire: Novgorod at its height was a feudal republic with the prince being elected by the city council, severely limited in power and mostly just a figurehead -- unless there was an imminent military threat. By contrast, the Knights were vassals of the HolyRomanEmpire, UsefulNotes/HolyRomanEmpire, and the Mongols... You get the idea.
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* {{Expy}}: Just as UsefulNotes/TheTeutonicKnights are used as [[ANaziByAnyOtherName Nazis By Another Name]], the Mongols represent the [[ImperialJapan Japanese]].
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* UncertainDoom: The German Bishop is last seen lying down on the ice and later we see the knights drowning. As he is not seen with the arrested leaders afterwards, it can be assumed he drowned along with the majority of the knights.
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* FateWorseThanDeath: Possible the fate of the Grand Master. Being defeated in a duel and held by his enemies for ransom is certainly a great humiliation.
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