History Fanfic / WeaverNine

* AsskickingEqualsAuthority: Discussed in the PHO threads after [[spoiler:the defeat of Leviathan]], with one poster suggesting that Alexandria or Eidolon should have leadership of the Protectorate because they are the strongest.

** While perusing [[Wiki/SCPFoundation Society archives,]] Tattletale comes across files for 'Sleeper', 'Rakshasa', 'Ash Beast'... [[http://scp-wiki.wikidot.com/scp-354 'Lake of Flesh'.]]

* NotSoDifferent:
** Weaver notes that Coil and she had similar ideals, only his were marred forcibly recruitment and the fact that she had more power at the moment.

** Cauldron and the Society both have the same end-goal in mind with dealing with the end of the world. The difference is that Cauldron focuses on the goal of saving as many human lives when Scion does go rogue, while the Society is focused on saving as many parahuman lives. It bleeds over into OpposingCombatPhilosophies.

* WhatIf: Besides the fic's initial premise, one is also raised as the abilities of the Endbringers with the reveal of [[spoiler:Leviathan using has powers to generate a kill-field and various Blaster abilities like Behemoth]]. The realisation that the Endbringers can fill in the roles of the others leads Jack Slash to imagine a world where their roles were changed.

* TotalitarianUtilitarian: Weaver, to a fair extent. She prioritizes capes because they can contribute more, any enemies who target them are basically turned into tools, she kills any threats to her Society to protect them, all of these things aren't morally right, but logistically they are practical.

*** Speaking of Discworld, the Society's attempt to contain Leviathan's core was inspired by the cover for ''Discworld/TheLightFantastic''.

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* DramaticIrony: In canon, Taylor had noble goals, but was willing to do morally questionable things to accomplish them. Here, Jacob's pursuit of selfish goals end up causing him to do heroic things.

* TheDreaded

* FinalSolution: The PRT has a blanket kill order on every and all members of the Society. Not all members of the Society deserve it given some were rescued from bad places, but the the original members were part of the S9 who had kill orders, they do take in criminals and mass-murderers heading for the Birdcage like Tatu and Galvanate, and they do turn captives into tools through tampering with their heads or controlling them.

* HeelFaceBrainWashing: Weaver makes plans to do this with her bugs in the first chapter, turning capes who hate them into allies. Later on we learn that she also use Master powers (like Regent's), using enemies and clones that have been lobotomized as expendable prisoners or weapons rather than allies.

* NewPowersAsThePlotDemands: Leviathan just seems to be pulling new abilities out of thin air every time the opposing capes manage to press him. Then again, in canon it's pretty clear that the Endbringers have always been holding back.

** Sphere "pulled a stunt" that got him confined. [[spoiler: It also got him listed as one of the global threats the Society has faced,so definitely not PlayedForLaughs]]

** Weaver notes that Coil and her had similar ideals, only his were marred forcibly recruitment and the fact that she had more power at the moment.

--> '''Weaver:''' We've got these fantastic powers but the grandest plan any governments can think of is to throw capes at their neighbors to shift a few pointless borders around. It's the same with business, they've kept the same products, the same markets, the same economy. Hell, why is there still an economy at all? Look at the capes in India and Pakistan. They had the right set of powers to make an unlimited amount of rare earth metals, but they lost it because they were too busy slitting each others throats. It's insane.

** Jack looses his arms to Armsmaster's nanothorns and is [[Film/MontyPythonandtheholygrail hopping on one leg at the end of the Battle of Brockton Bay]]. This is also a reference to his name in Eden's interlude: [[Film/MontyPythonandtheholygrail "Black]] [[MythologyGag Knight"]].

* XMeetsY: Several commentators have stated it has the feel of the ''Franchise/MetalGear'' series, and a roughly equivalent back-story to ''VideoGame/{{Killzone}}'', set in Literature/{{Worm}}.

* ZergRush: The Protectorate doesn't build extensive Endbringer combat strategies beyond 'hit it with everything' and group their troops by class.,Most apparent after the initial skirmish with Leviathan in Brockton Bay.

* FinalSolution: The PRT has a blanket kill order on every and all members of the Society. Given that very few of them have committed crimes worthy of a death sentence, and the fact that quite a few of them are innocents who joined the Society in gratitude after the Society rescued them from slavery, unjust imprisonment, torture, or other terrible fates... it reeks of WouldBeRudeToSayGenocide.

** But, as also pointed out, they were started by people who already had kill orders from their time in the Slaughterhouse 9, some of their citizens are criminals or mass murderers (Tatu and Galvanate) who are not brought to justice but are kept on a leash, Weaver herself is ruthlessly pragmatic and has a very hard time feeling morality because of her time with the S9 and does recruit from a position of power that makes it seem like a gun to the head despite basically telling them they could walk away, and they do turn captives into tools through tampering with their heads or controlling them. They aren't doing themselves any favors there, using their reputation as a shield instead.

** But, as also pointed out, they were started by people who already had kill orders from their time in the Slaughterhouse 9, some of their citizens are criminals or mass murderers who are not brought to justice but are kept on a leash, Weaver herself is ruthlessly pragmatic and has a very hard time feeling morality because of her time with the S9 and does recruit from a position of power that makes it seem like a gun to the head despite basically telling them they could walk away, and they do turn captives into tools through tampering with their heads or controlling them. They aren't doing themselves any favors there, using their reputation as a shield instead.

* {{Hypocrite}}: Screamer himself notes that while Taylor doesn't want to recruit through coercion or force, she's more than willing to have Tattletale ferret out secrets to use or try recruiting when they're in a position where she gives a show of strength that makes it seem like JoinOrDie is in effect.

* KillSat: [[spoiler:Weaver's Society employs an orbital railgun in the Brockton Bay fight against Leviathan. It's powerful enough to damage the continental slope... and still isn't enough to damage his core.]]

* TotalitarianUtilitarian: Weaver, to a fair extent.

* {{Hypocrite}}: Screamer himself notes that while Taylor doesn't want to recruit through coercion or force, she's more than willing to have Tattletale ferret out secrets to use or try recruiting when they're in a position where she gives a show of strength that makes it seem like JoinOrDie is in effect.

* HeelFaceBrainWashing: Weaver makes plans to do this with her bugs in the first chapter, turning capes who hate them into allies. Later on we learn that she also use Master powers, using enemies as as expendable prisoners or weapons rather than allies.

* NotSoDifferent: Cauldron and the Society both have the same end-goal in mind with dealing with the end of the world. The difference is that Cauldron focuses on the goal of saving as many human lives when Scion does go rogue, while Weaver is focused on saving as many parahuman lives. It bleeds over into OpposingCombatPhilosophies.

* NotSoDifferent: Cauldron and the Society both have the same end-goal in mind with dealing with the end of the world. The Society is just marginally more selective in how they accomplish it, preferring not to coerce people into their ranks.

* HeelFaceBrainWashing: Weaver makes plans to do this with her bugs in the first chapter, turning capes who hate them into allies.

* GoodIsNotSoft: When Dinah tries to persuade Taylor to force villains into helping the Society rather than giving them a chance to go free. How exactly this forcing is to take place is left ambiguous.

* IfIWantedYouDead: After she reveals herself, Jack realizes that if Weaver had hostile intentions she would have attacked already rather than wait for someone to notice her first. In the flashback arc, Victor also comes to a similar conclusion.

** After [[spoiler: Leviathan's defeat]] Jack is horribly mutated and injured. Panacea dosn't remember what he looks like, so Good Girl and Jack have to help her reconstruct his face. When they are done Good Girl comments that they can make him look better than he did before too. He'd be a more [[VideoGame/{{Borderlands}} Handsome Jack]].

* ZergRush: The Protectorate doesn't build extensive Endbringer combat strategies beyond 'hit it with everything' and group their troops by class. Most apparent after the initial skirmish with Leviathan in Brockton Bay.