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* GrandfatherParadox: Lampshaded by Barry, when he's [[spoiler:protecting a younger version of Eobard Thawne from a murderous Eddie. Barry notes that not only does he not want to kill Eddie, he ''can't'' -- killing Eddie will effectively cause the same problems killing Eobard will, because without Eddie living long enough to have a child, Eobard will not exist]].
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* AwesomenessByAnalysis: Ra's al Ghul figures out that [[spoiler:Oliver is Malcolm's child instead of Thea purely because his reaction when Oliver was in danger was stronger than his reaction to seeing Thea in danger]].


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* DirtyCoward: For all his confidence when he's in control of the situation, [[spoiler:Eobard is a coward when push comes to shove. When Eddie manages to attack him and drain some of his Speed Force, Eobard has to literally hide behind Barry while Barry negotiates to spare his life]].


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* SaveTheVillain: Barry is forced to save [[spoiler:Eobard's life from Eddie's rampage because Eobard hasn't killed Nora Allen yet, meaning that if Eddie kills him, it'll create a time paradox that risks the stability of the universe. He ends up forced to take him to the Hall of Justice]].


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* TimeyWimeyBall: [[spoiler:When Barry finally meets a younger version of Eobard for the first time, some confusion is caused because Barry already knows who he is while Eobard is only just starting out. This ends up being crucial when Eddie attacks Eobard, as Eobard hasn't killed Nora yet and killing him before he can do so would cause a time paradox]].


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* TragicVillain: [[spoiler:Eddie largely ends up becoming a villain because of things that aren't his fault. He loses his girlfriend, is knocked into a coma, unlocks his powers when he accidentally kills his parents, accidentally kills a friend who discovers this, and ''then'' discovers that all of this was because of his psychopathic descendant's obsession with the Flash, the man he hates more than anything in the world. By the end, Eobard has ruined his life so thoroughly that he's willing to cause a time paradox (and thus risk destroying the entire universe) if it means killing Eobard because he just has nothing to lose at this point]].

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* ArtisticLicenseBiology: With the reveal that [[spoiler:Oliver is actually Malcolm's son and not Thea, Oliver and Thea's hair colors become impossible; blonde hair is a recessive trait while black hair is dominant, meaning that Thea's two blonde parents should have given her blonde hair while Oliver's blonde and black-haired parents should've given him black hair]].



* DidntThinkThisThrough: [[spoiler:Eobard apparently didn't consider what would happen if he took Eddie, a newly awakened meta-human with fire powers he can't control, trick him into becoming a serial killer, then reveal that all of it was just so he could get the identity of the Flash (the man Eddie hates more than anything) ''right in front of him''. The result is that his powers get ''so'' out of control that he overpowers his meta-dampeners and knocks both Barry and Eobard unconscious briefly]].

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** Malcolm manages to convince himself that he can pull a pincer maneuver on [[spoiler:Ra's al Ghul's people, which goes completely predictably when the forces he sends to do that are easily killed before they even make it to the ambush point]].



** Chapter 162 has [[spoiler:Laurel reveal to her family that she is the Black Canary and that she had been replaced with Black Siren for a few hours without them noticing]]. Unfortunately, immediately afterward, they ''also'' learn that [[spoiler:Tommy is a traitor when he takes Sara hostage]].
** Thanks to Ra's al Ghul, [[spoiler:Oliver finally learns that Malcolm is still alive ''and'' that he's Oliver's biological father]].



* SecretSecretKeeper: [[spoiler:Ralph reveals in a letter sent after his death that he knew Barry was the Flash]].

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** [[spoiler:When Laurel reveals her secret identity to her family, Quentin confirms that he'd already known for several weeks, both because he's a naturally highly observant person as a detective and because he'd made close-up eye contact with her during one of the Worldkiller's attacks.]].



* SoProudOfYou: [[spoiler:Laurel's family proves to be very supportive to her when she tells them she's the Black Canary, admitting that they don't like the danger she's in but that she's handling herself well and is making a difference in the world]].



* WildCard: After being the victim of one too many lies, [[spoiler:Tommy decides to start striking on his own against both Oliver and his father, beginning by freeing Joe Wilson to kill Amanda Waller and steal the Alpha-Omega virus for himself]].

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* WildCard: After being the victim of one too many lies, [[spoiler:Tommy decides to start striking on his own against both Oliver and his father, beginning by freeing Joe Wilson to kill Amanda Waller and steal the Alpha-Omega virus for himself]].himself. His ultimate goal is to take control of both the League of Assassins ''and'' the League of Shadows]].
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* EntertaininglyWrong: The League of Assassins is aware that Malcolm has a bastard child who bears the Queen name and decides to kidnap them as a potential hostage as their usual methods in revenge would alienate Oliver. [[spoiler:Unfortunately, what they don't realize is that the Queen they kidnapped, Thea, is not Malcolm's bastard child in this continuity. It's Oliver]].

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* EntertaininglyWrong: The League of Assassins is aware that Malcolm has a bastard child who bears the Queen name and decides to kidnap them as a potential hostage to goad him into their demands as their usual methods in revenge would alienate Oliver. [[spoiler:Unfortunately, what they don't realize is that the Queen they kidnapped, Thea, is not Malcolm's bastard child in this continuity. It's Oliver]].

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** [[spoiler:The younger Eobard's plan to flush out the Flash's identity relies on both Eddie and Ralph acting like he expects them to; he hires Ralph to investigate the Thawnes' murder, expecting Ralph to uncover the truth and confront Eddie over it, where Eddie would then kill him and get the Flash's attention. He didn't expect that Ralph would be savvy enough to leave Barry a message should anything happen, but it works out for Eobard anyway]].
* BeyondTheImpossible: The revelation that [[spoiler:Eobard ruined Eddie's life just to get the Flash's attention angers him so much that he overpowers his meta-dampening cuffs and knocks both Barry and Eobard out almost immediately]].



* DidntThinkThisThrough: [[spoiler:Eobard apparently didn't consider what would happen if he took Eddie, a newly awakened meta-human with fire powers he can't control, trick him into becoming a serial killer, then reveal that all of it was just so he could get the identity of the Flash (the man Eddie hates more than anything) ''right in front of him''. The result is that his powers get ''so'' out of control that he overpowers his meta-dampeners and knocks both Barry and Eobard unconscious briefly]].



* EvilIsPetty: Zoom reveals that [[spoiler:he's intending to torment Barry just because it took so long to find out the Flash's secret identity that he wasn't able to use Barry's speed to restore his own]].

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** Just like canon, Eobard's entire motive is based around pettily deciding that if he couldn't be the Flash, then he would embrace his destiny as his biggest enemy and dedicate himself to ruining Barry's life, [[spoiler:even being willing to ruin his ancestor Eddie's life along the way just to find his real name]]. Barry outright calls him a deluded fanboy.
---> ''This plan, this horrible, diabolical plan, all this needless death and heartbreak, had all happened just because a jealous, deluded fanboy wanted to figure out his secret identity.''



* ForgotToGagHim: Talia apparently forgot that on top of his League training Malcolm Merlyn is a master manipulator. [[spoiler:Therefore, she leaves him relatively unguarded where Tommy stumbles on him, allowing him to convert his son to his side and planting the seeds of Talia’s own death]].

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* ForgotToGagHim: Talia apparently forgot that on top of his League training training, Malcolm Merlyn is a master manipulator. [[spoiler:Therefore, she leaves him relatively unguarded where Tommy stumbles on him, allowing him to convert his son to his side and planting the seeds of Talia’s own death]].


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* PragmaticVillainy: [[spoiler:The younger version of Eobard Thawne is smart enough to go back to his time as soon as he has what he came for - he's found the Flash's identity, and now he can safely head back to plan his next move. Unfortunately for him, he didn't account for a pissed off Eddie managing to break free of his cuffs]].

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* IgnorantOfTheirOwnIgnorance: This basically justifies how [[spoiler:a past version of Eobard Thawne was able to pose as Eddie's therapist; Barry was keeping an eye out for the Eobard Thawne he knew who assumed the identity of Harrison Wells, never realising that the older Thawne stole Harrison's face as well as his name]].



* UnderestimatingBadassery: After [[spoiler:Kara returns to Argo City, she and Kal are attacked by a group of cultists worshipping Reign, but the cultists are swiftly defeated as they are obviously unprepared for Kara's skill at hand-to-hand combat]].



* UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom: Eddie's therapist assures him that disagreeing with a friend who was trying to force their viewpoint on him is completely okay and that it makes the other person a bad friend. [[spoiler:What he doesn't realize is that Eddie ''murdered'' said friend because he wanted Eddie to turn himself in for a double homicide, and Eddie takes his therapist's words as validation that he didn't do anything wrong]]. However, [[spoiler:it's later revealed that the therapist didn't have good intentions in the first place as the "therapist" reveals himself to be a different version of Eobard]].

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* UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom: Eddie's therapist assures him that disagreeing with a friend who was trying to force their viewpoint on him is completely okay and that it makes the other person a bad friend. [[spoiler:What he doesn't realize is that Eddie ''murdered'' said friend because he wanted Eddie to turn himself in for a double homicide, and Eddie takes his therapist's words as validation that he didn't do anything wrong]]. However, [[spoiler:it's later revealed that the therapist didn't have good intentions in the first place as the "therapist" reveals himself to be was a different younger version of Eobard]].Eobard Thawne manipulating Eddie for his own ends]].

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* EntertaininglyWrong: The League of Assassins is aware that Malcolm has a bastard child who bears the Queen name and decides to kidnap them as a potential hostage as their usual methods in revenge would alienate Oliver. [[spoiler:Unfortunately, what they don't realize is that the Queen they kidnapped, Thea, is not Malcolm's bastard child in this continuity. It's Oliver]].



* UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom: Eddie's therapist assures him that disagreeing with a friend who was trying to force their viewpoint on him is completely okay and that it makes the other person a bad friend. [[spoiler:What he doesn't realize is that Eddie ''murdered'' said friend because he wanted Eddie to turn himself in for a double homicide, and Eddie takes his therapist's words as validation that he didn't do anything wrong]]. However, [[spoiler:it's later revealed that the therapist didn't have good intentions in the first place]].

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* UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom: Eddie's therapist assures him that disagreeing with a friend who was trying to force their viewpoint on him is completely okay and that it makes the other person a bad friend. [[spoiler:What he doesn't realize is that Eddie ''murdered'' said friend because he wanted Eddie to turn himself in for a double homicide, and Eddie takes his therapist's words as validation that he didn't do anything wrong]]. However, [[spoiler:it's later revealed that the therapist didn't have good intentions in the first place]].place as the "therapist" reveals himself to be a different version of Eobard]].

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** Barry was also much closer to Eddie in canon, being good friends and Eddie even becoming a temporary member of Team Flash before his death. Here the two can barely stand each other and only do so for Iris' sake. Eddie's animosity with the Flash also never dies down, and he only stops hunting him when his superiors force him to. [[spoiler:After his coma and his relationship with Iris collapses, the two men actually start striking up something of a friendship, coming closer to their canon relationship]].

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** Barry was also much closer to Eddie in canon, being good friends and Eddie even becoming a temporary member of Team Flash before his death. Here the two can barely stand each other and only do so for Iris' sake. Eddie's animosity with the Flash also never dies down, and he only stops hunting him when his superiors force him to. [[spoiler:After his coma and his relationship with Iris collapses, the two men actually start striking up something of a friendship, coming closer to their canon relationship]].relationship, to the point that when Barry has to investigate Eddie for the Thawnes' murder, he's genuinely hoping for his innocence]].



** Canon Leonard Snart was one of Barry's greatest enemies and rivals before eventually becoming an ally. This Leonard Snart is absolutely ''terrified'' of the Flash due to the latter being a much darker and more competent vigilante. The only reason he commissioned the cold gun was as an insurance policy -- otherwise, he'd much rather avoid the Flash altogether.

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** Canon Leonard Snart was one of Barry's greatest enemies and rivals before eventually becoming an ally. This Leonard Snart is absolutely ''terrified'' of the Flash due to the latter being a much darker and more competent vigilante. The only reason he commissioned the cold gun was as an insurance policy -- otherwise, he'd much rather avoid the Flash altogether. [[spoiler:After the Metapocalypse is averted, he, Mick, and Lisa choose to get the hell out of Central City rather than risk running into him or any of the Justice League again]].



* AdaptationalVillainy: Zoom manages to be even ''worse'' than he was in canon; while canon Zoom at least appeared to have a dedication to his word and honored most of the deals he made, this Zoom [[spoiler:murdered Jesse in front of Harry just to spite him after he'd done everything that Zoom asked for]]. [[spoiler:He also murdered his own Earth-1 counterpart and took over his life before revealing his alter ego to the world, something that his canon self never did]].

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** After unlocking his powers, [[spoiler:Eddie becomes a multi-murderer (albeit largely accidentally) and is willing to go so far as to mutilate Ralph's corpse to make it look like a mugging gone wrong]].

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** The mugger that [[spoiler:Eddie frames for Ralph's death]] is Joe Chill, the man who usually kills Thomas and Martha Wayne and thus creates Batman.



* NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished: Ralph tries to [[spoiler:convince Eddie to get ahead of his parents' murders by turning himself in, trying to show him that taking responsibility for it (since it genuinely was an accident) will help him get a lighter punishment. Eddie's response is to murder him (albeit accidentally), mutilate his corpse, kill a mugger and frame him for it, and then blow up a police department's evidence locker while people are in the building to cover it all up]].

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* NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished: Ralph tries to [[spoiler:convince Eddie to get ahead of his parents' murders by turning himself in, trying to show him that taking responsibility for it (since it genuinely was an accident) will help him get a lighter punishment. Eddie's response is to murder him (albeit accidentally), mutilate his corpse, kill frame a mugger and frame him for it, and then blow up a police department's evidence locker while people are in the building to cover it all up]].



* SlowlySlippingIntoEvil: Killing [[spoiler:Hugo and Charlene Thawne]] is one thing; the victims were such horrible people that no one takes it very personally, and the audience definitely sympathizes with [[spoiler:Eddie]] over it. [[spoiler:Killing Ralph, killing and framing a mugger, and then blowing up an evidence locker, however, makes it clear that Eddie is losing it and needs to be stopped as soon as possible]].

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* SlowlySlippingIntoEvil: Killing [[spoiler:Hugo and Charlene Thawne]] is one thing; the victims were such horrible people that no one takes it very personally, and the audience definitely sympathizes with [[spoiler:Eddie]] over it. [[spoiler:Killing Ralph, killing and framing a mugger, and then blowing up an evidence locker, however, makes it clear that Eddie is losing it and needs to be stopped as soon as possible]].



* UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom: Eddie's therapist assures him that disagreeing with a friend who was trying to force their viewpoint on him is completely okay and that it makes the other person a bad friend. [[spoiler:What he doesn't realize is that Eddie ''murdered'' said friend because he wanted Eddie to turn himself in for a double homicide, and Eddie takes his therapist's words as validation that he didn't do anything wrong]].

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* UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom: Eddie's therapist assures him that disagreeing with a friend who was trying to force their viewpoint on him is completely okay and that it makes the other person a bad friend. [[spoiler:What he doesn't realize is that Eddie ''murdered'' said friend because he wanted Eddie to turn himself in for a double homicide, and Eddie takes his therapist's words as validation that he didn't do anything wrong]]. However, [[spoiler:it's later revealed that the therapist didn't have good intentions in the first place]].
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** For all that Robert's affair with Isabel was gross due to their age difference and he's nowhere near proud of it, he's offended when [[spoiler:Tommy]] asks her if she was legal yet.

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* NiceJobBreakingItHero: During the hostage exchange between the Flash and [[spoiler:Reverb]], Barry is inches away from getting everyone away from the situation unharmed when Eddie arrives, shoots him with a speed dampening dart, and moves to arrest him. [[spoiler:In the chaos that follows, Reverb manages to get away with both Rupture and Barry, while Iris is almost killed in the crossfire]].

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* NiceJobBreakingItHero: During the hostage exchange between the Flash and [[spoiler:Reverb]], Barry is inches away from getting everyone away from the situation unharmed when Eddie arrives, shoots him with a speed dampening speed-dampening dart, and moves to arrest him. [[spoiler:In the chaos that follows, Reverb manages to get away with both Rupture and Barry, while Iris is almost killed in the crossfire]].



* NoGoodDeedGoesUnpunished: Ralph tries to [[spoiler:convince Eddie to get ahead of his parents' murders by turning himself in, trying to show him that taking responsibility for it (since it genuinely was an accident) will help him get a lighter punishment. Eddie's response is to murder him (albeit accidentally), mutilate his corpse, kill a mugger and frame him for it, and then blow up a police department's evidence locker while people are in the building to cover it all up]].



* ProperlyParanoid: Following [[spoiler:Zoom's attack]], the government mass produces Cisco's [[spoiler:doppelsensor]] and dispenses one to every family across the country. [[spoiler:Quentin ends up using one on Laurel and Oliver when they return home from Central City, still completely unaware that they had in fact already met Black Siren for a few hours]].

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** Ralph wisely chooses to compile a letter filled with the evidence from the case he's investigating just in case anything goes wrong. [[spoiler:It's a good thing he did, as Eddie accidentally kills him, leaving the letter as the only lead that puts Barry on the case once all the evidence is gone]].



** {{Big Eater}}s Barry, Kara and Kal gorging down on food while a disgusted Oliver watches in resignation.

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** {{Big Eater}}s Barry, Kara Kara, and Kal gorging down on food while a disgusted Oliver watches in resignation.



* SecretKeeper: [[spoiler:Tommy ends up learning Oliver and Laurel's secret identities when assassins attack them in their home; from there, he quickly deduces Barry and Kara's identities. He's given the chance to tell Malcolm, but chooses to keep it to himself]].
* SecretSecretKeeper: [[spoiler:Ralph reveals in a letter sent after his death that he knew Barry was the Flash]].



** The author preemptively sunk all Kara ships, all Tommy ships, Oliver/Felicity, Oliver/Sara and any ships that put Oliver, Barry, and Kara together in any capacity.

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* SlowlySlippingIntoEvil: Killing [[spoiler:Hugo and Charlene Thawne]] is one thing; the victims were such horrible people that no one takes it very personally, and the audience definitely sympathizes with [[spoiler:Eddie]] over it. [[spoiler:Killing Ralph, killing and framing a mugger, and then blowing up an evidence locker, however, makes it clear that Eddie is losing it and needs to be stopped as soon as possible]].



* UnwittingMuggleFriend: Unlike in canon, Oliver, Barry, and Kara deliberately try to keep their vigilante personas separated from their civilian personas as much as possible. That means absolutely ''none'' of their loved ones know about their secret identities. As of this writing, [[spoiler:only Iris and Laurel know, and for different reasons. Iris managed to connect the dots after Barry slipped too many times around her, while Laurel ended up becoming a vigilante herself, and learned their identities as part of her initiation into the Justice League]].

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* UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom: Eddie's therapist assures him that disagreeing with a friend who was trying to force their viewpoint on him is completely okay and that it makes the other person a bad friend. [[spoiler:What he doesn't realize is that Eddie ''murdered'' said friend because he wanted Eddie to turn himself in for a double homicide, and Eddie takes his therapist's words as validation that he didn't do anything wrong]].
* UnwittingMuggleFriend: Unlike in canon, Oliver, Barry, and Kara deliberately try to keep their vigilante personas separated from their civilian personas as much as possible. That means absolutely ''none'' of their loved ones know about their secret identities. As of this writing, [[spoiler:only Iris Iris, Laurel, and Laurel Tommy know, and for different reasons. Iris managed to connect the dots after Barry slipped too many times around her, while Laurel ended up becoming a vigilante herself, and learned their identities as part of her initiation into the Justice League]].League, while Tommy was present when they fought off a group of assassins and was let in on the secret]].


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* WildCard: After being the victim of one too many lies, [[spoiler:Tommy decides to start striking on his own against both Oliver and his father, beginning by freeing Joe Wilson to kill Amanda Waller and steal the Alpha-Omega virus for himself]].
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* DeadManWriting: [[spoiler:Predicting that his investigation of the Thawnes' deaths would get ugly to the point of him getting killed, Ralph sends a letter and a compilation of his evidence to Barry, partly because he correctly guesses that he's the Flash]].

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* DisproportionateRetribution: On two different occasions, Talia slaughtered dozens of innocent people just because one of them insulted her. Once it was over fifty women in a harem, another it was an entire village with hundreds of people.



** After this incident, Ra's al Ghul himself not only honored his request to leave and released Malcolm from his duty, but he also disowned Talia and removed her from the League's line of succession, refusing to tolerate even a single innocent death, much less fifty.

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** After this incident, Ra's al Ghul himself not only honored Malcolm's request, recognizing that his request loyalty to leave and released Malcolm from his duty, but the League was divided due to her actions. Though he also disowned kept Talia and removed around for a little while longer, it was when Talia slaughtered an entire village just because one man insulted her that he completely excommunicated her from the League's line of succession, refusing to tolerate even a single innocent death, much less fifty.League.

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* AccidentalMurder: [[spoiler:Eddie accidentally unlocks his powers when an argument with his parents goes out of control and leads to him burning them both to death. Later on, he accidentally kills Ralph the same way when his powers act up in response to his anger]].



** [[spoiler:Adrian Chase]] doesn't survive their first encounter with Oliver. Unlike most examples, this one was completely willing and was done via cyanide pill.



** [[spoiler:Ralph is accidentally killed by Eddie when his powers act up]].



* DiesDifferentInAdaptation: In canon, [[spoiler:Adrian Chase died when he shot himself in the head to detonate Lian Yu]]. Here, he kills himself with a cyanide pill after his first confrontation with Oliver.



** After spending the entire story being lied to and manipulated, Tommy decides to [[spoiler:go his own way, separate from his father and from Oliver, to ensure he's never lied to again. Unknown to him, he's the only person in the story who actually has the entire truth, meaning that none of his allies have ways to lie to him like they did before anymore]].



** For all that Robert's affair with Isabel was gross due to their age difference and he's nowhere near proud of it, he's offended when [[spoiler:Tommy]] asks her if she was legal yet.



* ImplausibleDeniability: Patricia tries to justify the fact that she doesn't know her own granddaughter's name because Sam never talks to her any more. Kara angrily points out that Sam is a famous up-and-coming CEO with several social media profiles and her own Wikipedia page, so there's no excuse for her to not know Ruby's name.

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* ImplausibleDeniability: Patricia tries to justify the fact that she doesn't know her own granddaughter's name because Sam never talks to her any more.anymore. Kara angrily points out that Sam is a famous up-and-coming CEO with several social media profiles and her own Wikipedia page, so there's no excuse for her to not know Ruby's name.



** Chapter 124 has Tommy learn [[spoiler:that Oliver is his half-brother on his father's side]].

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** Chapter 124 has Tommy learn [[spoiler:that Oliver is his half-brother on his father's side]]. Chapter 142 then has him learn that [[spoiler:Isabel and Talia were working together and that she never loved him]].



* MoralEventHorizon: InUniverse, it's made very clear that sinking the ''Queen's Gambit'' was one as everyone learning the true circumstances behind the shipwreck is horrified and disgusted by Merlyn, even Malcolm himself.

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* MoralEventHorizon: InUniverse, it's made very clear that no one will ever forgive Malcolm for sinking the ''Queen's Gambit'' was one as everyone learning Gambit''. Tommy himself mourns the true circumstances behind the shipwreck is horrified and disgusted by Merlyn, even Malcolm himself.fact that this act means that eventually, [[spoiler:he'll have to choose between his father or his brother Oliver]].



* NiceJobFixingItVillain: [[spoiler:Thanks to Rupture and Killer Frost not killing Caitlin and Dante as soon as they arrived in S.T.A.R. labs in favor of torturing them, Harry manages to finish building the wave emitter while they're distracted and singlehandedly defeats all the Earth-2 metas at once]].

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* NiceJobFixingItVillain: [[spoiler:Thanks to Rupture and [[spoiler:The Metapocalypse is undone in part because of the actions of the people who instigated it. Killer Frost not killing Frost, Rupture, and Reverb simply toy with the heroes to satiate their sadism rather than fight outright, but Caitlin and Dante as soon as they arrived in S.T.A.R. labs in favor of torturing them, develop powers due to Zoom's own Dark Matter Collector going off, allowing them to fight back. This buys Harry manages enough time to finish building the wave emitter while they're distracted and singlehandedly defeats machine that knocks out all the Earth-2 metas at once]].


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** Arc V, Chapter 143: [[spoiler:While Tommy decides to strike out on his own against both his father and Oliver, Eddie kills Ralph on accident]].
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Five Man Band is undergoing a wick-cleaning project, so zero-context examples, roles with little to no context, and examples featuring groups of more than five, will be deleted.


* FiveManBand:
** The Lian Yu Survivors
*** TheLeader[=/=]TeamDad: Slade, as the oldest and most skilled.
*** TheLancer: Oliver, who is the most devoted to keeping their makeshift family together and protected.
*** TheSmartGuy: Barry, as a genius in scientific subjects.
*** TheBigGuy: Kara, whose superpowers began to develop on the island.
*** TheChick[=/=]TeamMom: Shado, as the maternal figure and TheMedic.
*** TagalongKid: Baby Kal-El, the apple of everyone's eye and the number one priority.
** Post-Lian Yu
*** TheLeader: Oliver.
*** TheLancer: Slade. When he's not present, Barry takes over.
*** TheSmartGuy: Barry.
*** TheBigGuy[=/=]TheChick: Kara, having taken over Shado's role as the resident maternal figure.
*** TagalongKid: Kal-El.
*** SixthRanger: Nyssa, at first. [[spoiler:Then Laurel, after she becomes a vigilante and joins the Justice League]].
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* ExactWords: After [[spoiler:Tommy learns Oliver and Laurel's identities when they kill the assassins Malcolm sent to fake-capture them, Tommy tells his father that the assassins were killed by Green Arrow and Black Canary without revealing that Oliver and Laurel ''are'' the vigilantes in question]].


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* IRejectYourReality: [[spoiler:After Sam finds her spaceship in her mother's basement, she basically chooses this option, refusing to acknowledge that she's an alien and live a human life]].
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* WeaponOfChoice: The three main leads are familiar with using several different weapons, though they still have their preferences.

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* WeaponOfChoice: WeaponBasedCharacterization: The three main leads are familiar with using several different weapons, though they still have their preferences.
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This or these examples of Surprisingly Realistic Outcome seem to violate at least one of these rules, which disqualifies them: No character reactions (characters get angry, don't forgive, don't change their personality instantly, etc.); Too fantastical (depends on the properties of magic, powers, sci-fi tech, monsters, etc.); Not surprising (a character was warned about the outcome, it's used to provide Karma or An Aesop, or it simply follows normal conventions for this genre or medium); Plot happens (the example only describes an event, but not why audiences would expect a different, unrealistic outcome); Not an outcome (a character just explains why something wouldn't work as expected, or something is just an innate aspect of the setting or character that has a logical reason for being present); More of a Deconstruction (the event has major, lasting effects on the plot, make something more realistic, but not completely realistic, or a parody/fanwork applies realistic consequences to the events of a different work); or fits better under a different trope. See the trope's definition for more details. If you believe a removal was a mistake, please bring it up in the cleanup thread.


* SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome:
** Slade and Shado's romantic relationship is a result of this, according to Oliver. The two of them were the only two adults on a death trap of an island, trying to protect, raise, and train three traumatized kids and a baby on their own, and only able to rely on each other for comfort and help. Considering the amount of stress they were both under, it would've been more surprising if they ''hadn't'' gotten attached to one another. It's because of this that Oliver refuses to take inspiration from them for his own love life; while he recognizes his adoptive parents genuinely loved each other, the circumstances that led to it aren't something he should replicate.
** Oliver is absolutely hopeless at love. Prior to Lian Yu, the only experience he had was a one-month fling with [=McKenna=] Hall, his parents' still patchy marriage, and rom-coms. ''After'' Lian Yu, on top of all the trauma, the closest example he had to a healthy relationship was the aforementioned Slade and Shado. His siblings were no help either, as Barry was still confused and hung-up on his feelings for Iris (who is literally the only person he's ever been interested in), while Kara was too obsessed with raising Kal-El to care about any romance. Finally, his only prospective love interest during that time was Nyssa al Ghul, who is emotionally repressed and even more inexperienced than he is due to being raised by the League. Compounding all that together, it's no wonder he's TwiceShy with Laurel.
** The Justice League is constantly strained with their duties because they have only four people on the team -- hardly ideal for protecting the world. Even then, they can't add members nilly-willy, and even when they do, they stop at seven because adding any more will screw up the team dynamics.
** Having a public base is just giving your enemies a place to target, which is why Oliver ''hates'' the Hall of Justice.
** Just because someone has had a crush on you for years does not mean you are in any way obligated to return their affections, as Laurel shows Tommy. Likewise, flaunting your mutual attraction with someone else in front of them will just alienate that person from you. [[spoiler:Oliver and Laurel do exactly that to Tommy several times (albeit, unintentionally), and it costs them his friendship]].
** [[spoiler:Talia is an incredibly arrogant BadBoss, meaning that not only do her followers turn against her, but she is killed by the absolute last person she expected because he managed to get the drop on her]].
** Barry, Cisco, Caitlin, Ronnie, Stein, and Hartley all consolidated their research at STAR Labs in order to collaborate on everything together after Thawne was defeated. This has the unfortunate side effect of meaning that everything they ever did was all in one place when [[spoiler:Zoom's team]] invaded. Furthermore, because Barry is so independent, they have a great amount of free time and a ''carte blanche'' to research whatever they want. That means the amount of inventions and information at S.T.A.R. Labs is exponentially higher; it takes a great amount of time to figure out what they took -- or even that they took anything at all.
** Task Force X is a team of {{Badass Normal}}s and superpowered people that manage to successfully infiltrate [[spoiler:Zoom's prison]] and reach their target without much issue. [[spoiler:That means exactly nothing once Zoom himself shows up, as he proceeds to kill Everyman and China White before anyone can even react. It's only thanks to Plastique managing to graze his suit and force him to run that the rest of the team manage to escape alive]].
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* MakeItLookLikeAnAccident: In chapter 136, [[spoiler:Eddie accidentally kills kills his parents in a moment of anger [[RageBreakingPoint after having enough of their abusive behavior]]. After realizing what he has done, he decides to stage a house fire to cover up his tracks]].

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* MakeItLookLikeAnAccident: In chapter 136, [[spoiler:Eddie accidentally kills kills his parents in a moment of anger [[RageBreakingPoint after having enough of their abusive behavior]]. After realizing what he has done, he decides to stage a house fire to cover up his tracks]].
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* MakeItLookLikeAnAccident: In chapter 136, [[spoiler:Eddie accidentally kills kills his parents in a moment of anger [[RageBreakingPoint after having enough of their abusive behavior]]. After realizing what he has done, he decides to stage a house fire to cover up his tracks]].
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* EliteFour: It's mentioned that the League of Assassin has what is called "The Four Horsemen", who serve as extensions of Ra's al Ghul's will and in the words of Amanda, worked as his sword and shield. Thus far, Oliver, Kara, Barry, Nyassa, and Malcolm are mentioned to be either former or current Horsemen.
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** Despite Eobard's fears to the contrary and to his eventual relief, Barry still gets his SuperSpeed despite not being in Central when the Particle Accelerator is activated.

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** Despite Eobard's fears to the contrary and to his eventual relief, Barry still gets his SuperSpeed despite not being in Central when the Particle Accelerator is activated. Chapter 110 reveals that this is no coincidence, as the Speed Force itself has long since chosen Barry as its champion and thus used its power to send the bolt created by the Particle Accelerator to Nanda Parbat.
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** Malcolm refuses to tell Tommy his suspicions that [[spoiler:Isabel was working with Talia only to be betrayed]] because it would break his heart regardless of if he believes him.

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** Malcolm refuses to tell Tommy his suspicions that [[spoiler:Isabel was working with Talia only to be betrayed]] because because, disregarding whether or not Tommy would even believe him, it would break his heart regardless of if he believes him.even further than it already has been.
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* BadassBystander: Due to the severity of the situation when [[spoiler:Zoom’s army]] attacks, [[spoiler:Wells, Caitlin, and Dante are forced to go into the field to build the machine that will take down all of the Earth-2 metas. While Wells and Caitlin at least have the required science knowledge, Dante has literally no skills that can help except for the fact that he has hands and is willing to help]].

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* BadassBystander: Due to the severity of the situation when [[spoiler:Zoom’s army]] attacks, [[spoiler:Wells, Caitlin, and Dante are forced to go into the field to build the machine that will take down all of the Earth-2 metas. While Wells and Caitlin at least have the required science knowledge, Dante has literally no skills that can help except for the fact that he has hands and is willing to help]].hands]].

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*** After this incident, Ra's al Ghul himself not only honored his request to leave and released Malcolm from his duty, but he also disowned Talia and removed her from the League's line of succession, refusing to tolerate even a single innocent death, much less fifty.

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*** ---> Talia, of course, spun a tale for her father, one that he nodded along with, but inside he was sickened. There was being extreme, there was being petty, but this... this was neither of those things. This was just ''wrong''.
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After this incident, Ra's al Ghul himself not only honored his request to leave and released Malcolm from his duty, but he also disowned Talia and removed her from the League's line of succession, refusing to tolerate even a single innocent death, much less fifty.
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* RantInducingSlight: [[spoiler:Despite grinning and bearing Oliver and Laurel's new relationship, Tommy finally loses his composure and rants at the two of them when, after ignoring him and Isabel for an entire meal to flirt with each other, they tell him they had a great time and they should all do it again. They obviously meant no insult, but for Tommy it was the final straw in a long series of straws that ends his friendship with both of them for good.]]
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** Barry is a KnifeNut, thanks to their versatility and how easy they are to draw on quick notice. He's particularly fond of throwing them, with contributed to his alias of 'the Lightning' even ''before'' he gained his powers.

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** Barry is a KnifeNut, knife expert, thanks to their versatility and how easy they are to draw on quick notice. He's particularly fond of throwing them, with contributed to his alias of 'the Lightning' even ''before'' he gained his powers.

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** Played straight with Slade. He's the one who took canon Oliver's place in Hong Kong, Shadowspire, and Russia, before reuniting with his son Joe...only to be forced to leave him again to protect him from Amanda Waller. All while assuming that his four adoptive kids were dead for years, after making a promise to the woman he loved, ''on her deathbed'', that he would get them off the island and get them home. And then when he finally does reunite with them, he finds out [[AdultFear they joined the League of Assassins]].

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** Played straight with Slade. He's the one who took canon Oliver's place in Hong Kong, Shadowspire, and Russia, before reuniting with his son Joe...only to be forced to leave him again to protect him from Amanda Waller. All while assuming that his four adoptive kids were dead for years, after making a promise to the woman he loved, ''on her deathbed'', that he would get them off the island and get them home. And then when he finally does reunite with them, he finds out [[AdultFear they joined the League of Assassins]].Assassins.



* AdultFear:
** When Slade reunites with his adoptive children, he asks them where they went and why it took them so long to resurface. They reveal that they joined the League of Assassins. To say Slade is unhappy to hear that would be a ''severe'' understatement.
** After Malcolm Merlyn's Undertaking is exposed, Sam is horrified because it means she invited a terrorist to her daughter's birthday party.
** J'onn is horrified to discover that the species that invaded his homeworld, [[spoiler: the Dominators,]] and destroyed his species is about to attack his new home.
** [[spoiler:After Brick takes Balliol Prep hostage, Robert, Moira, Sam, and many other parents are driven into frenzy, desperately trying to gather money to pay off the ransom]].
** Once [[spoiler:Zoom's]] plan begins, all of the heroes are left with the knowledge that, at absolutely any moment, [[spoiler:someone they care about could be replaced with an imposter that wishes them harm and they'd have no way of knowing]].
** After an unknown amount of time as a prisoner, [[spoiler:Dante learns that, because Zoom and Rupture covered their tracks so well, he's been imprisoned for at least a few weeks and ''no one noticed'']].

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* AssholeVictim: [[spoiler:Talia al Ghul. While it's not a good sign that Malcolm controls her forces and it's sad that [[NiceGuy Tommy]] was the one to do it, no one will ever be anything but happy that the murderous and petty psychopath is gone]].

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[[spoiler:Talia al Ghul. While it's not a good sign that Malcolm controls her forces and it's sad that [[NiceGuy Tommy]] was the one to do it, no one will ever be anything but happy that the murderous and petty psychopath is gone]].gone]].
** [[spoiler: [[AbusiveParents Hugo and Charlene Thawne]] were murdered by Eddie in Arc V, after [[RageBreakingPoint going too far]] with their mistreatment resulted in his powers awakening]].


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** [[spoiler:In the very first chapter of Arc III, there're mentions of Black Lightning's return and Hal Jordan's dissapearance]].

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* KilledOffscreen: Chapter 112 has [[spoiler:Zoom]] reveal that he had [[spoiler:Dr. Light]] murdered offscreen for being a traitor to the cause.

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Chapter 112 has [[spoiler:Zoom]] reveal that he had [[spoiler:Dr. Light]] murdered offscreen for being a traitor to the cause.cause.
** Chapter 140 reveals that [[spoiler:Patricia- Sam's mother- was one of the victims of Pestilence's disease, which they only realised after the fact as Supergirl was fighting Pestilence and Barry hasn't met Patricia in person to recognise her while he was clearing the infected out of danger]].

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