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* BlueAndOrangeMorality: The Colonials' idea of liberation [[http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=206 is a little bit different]] from that of most people. In particular, they seem to think that a great way to liberate the population of Earth is by launching hundreds of large nukes at its surface. And when that doesn't work very well, ''do it again.''



* MoralDissonance: The Colonials' idea of liberation [[http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=206 is a little bit different]] from that of most people. In particular, they seem to think that a great way to liberate the population of Earth is by launching hundreds of large nukes at its surface. And when that doesn't work very well, ''do it again.''
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What happens when [[Series/BattlestarGalactica2003 the Twelve Colonies of Kobol]] and [[Franchise/StargateVerse the Tau'ri]] meet? Well, in the universe of this fanfic, there's only one thing that can happen: they go to war. ''[[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3546854/1/Reunions_are_a_Bitch Reunions are a Bitch]]'' (officially listed as "Reunions are a Deleted" in a title search due to FF.net's censorship rules preventing swear words in story titles) by [[http://www.fanfiction.net/u/52257/Bob_Regent Bob Regent]] is ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin.

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What happens when [[Series/BattlestarGalactica2003 the Twelve Colonies of Kobol]] and [[Franchise/StargateVerse the Tau'ri]] meet? Well, in the universe of this fanfic, there's only one thing that can happen: they go to war. ''[[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3546854/1/Reunions_are_a_Bitch Reunions are a Bitch]]'' (officially listed as "Reunions are a Deleted" in a title search due to FF.net's censorship rules preventing forbidding swear words in story titles) by [[http://www.fanfiction.net/u/52257/Bob_Regent Bob Regent]] is ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin.


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* DeadFic: Has not been updated since 2013, and the author has stated he's no longer interested in it.
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What happens when [[Series/BattlestarGalactica2003 the Twelve Colonies of Kobol]] and [[Franchise/StargateVerse the Tau'ri]] meet? Well, in the universe of this fanfic, there's only one thing that can happen: they go to war. ''[[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3546854/1/Reunions_are_a_Bitch Reunions are a Bitch]]'' by [[http://www.fanfiction.net/u/52257/Bob_Regent Bob Regent]] is ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin.

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What happens when [[Series/BattlestarGalactica2003 the Twelve Colonies of Kobol]] and [[Franchise/StargateVerse the Tau'ri]] meet? Well, in the universe of this fanfic, there's only one thing that can happen: they go to war. ''[[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3546854/1/Reunions_are_a_Bitch Reunions are a Bitch]]'' (officially listed as "Reunions are a Deleted" in a title search due to FF.net's censorship rules preventing swear words in story titles) by [[http://www.fanfiction.net/u/52257/Bob_Regent Bob Regent]] is ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin.
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--->''You can't blame the will of the gods; it's our faith that's weak, not their will'. That's what they always say, and then they walk away, with their hands clean. Not this time. Livia wanted this liberation' (ha!) as much as I did.â Adar leaned back. The entire college wanted the Tau'ri brought to heel. They couldn't wait for the new converts and their money to start flowing into their coffers. I wanted to be remembered as the man to reunite all the worlds in our war. The military and industrialists wanted that so-called primitive FTL drive and the energy shield technology. And all of the resources present on that planet! Everybody had a stake in this gamble. Now look at us, eleven worlds, one destroyed and one looking to destroy everything we stand for. Damn, I frakked this one up. But if I go down, I'm taking them down with me, especially Livia.''

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--->''You can't blame the will of the gods; it's our faith that's weak, not their will'. That's what they always say, and then they walk away, with their hands clean. Not this time. Livia wanted this liberation' (ha!) as much as I did.â Adar leaned back. The entire college wanted the Tau'ri brought to heel. They couldn't wait for the new converts and their money to start flowing into their coffers. I wanted to be remembered as the man to reunite all the worlds in our war. The military and industrialists wanted that so-called primitive FTL drive and the energy shield technology. And all of the resources present on that planet! Everybody had a stake in this gamble. Now look at us, eleven worlds, one destroyed and one looking to destroy everything we stand for. Damn, I frakked this one up. But if I go down, I'm taking them down with me, especially Livia.''
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--->''You can't blame the will of the gods; it's our faith that's weak, not their will'. That's what they always say, and then they walk away, with their hands clean. Not this time. Livia wanted this liberation' (ha!) as much as I did.â Adar leaned back. The entire college wanted the Tau'ri brought to heel. They couldn't wait for the new converts and their money to start flowing into their coffers. I wanted to be remembered as the man to reunite all the worlds in our war. The military and industrialists wanted that so-called primitive FTL drive and the energy shield technology. And all of the resources present on that planet! Everybody had a stake in this gamble. Now look at us, eleven worlds, one destroyed and one looking to destroy everything we stand for. Damn, I frakked this one up. But if I go down, I'm taking them down with me, especially Livia.''

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--->''You can't blame the will of the gods; it's our faith that's weak, not their will'. That's what they always say, and then they walk away, with their hands clean. Not this time. Livia wanted this liberation' (ha!) as much as I did.â Adar leaned back. The entire college wanted the Tau'ri brought to heel. They couldn't wait for the new converts and their money to start flowing into their coffers. I wanted to be remembered as the man to reunite all the worlds in our war. The military and industrialists wanted that so-called primitive FTL drive and the energy shield technology. And all of the resources present on that planet! Everybody had a stake in this gamble. Now look at us, eleven worlds, one destroyed and one looking to destroy everything we stand for. Damn, I frakked this one up. But if I go down, I'm taking them down with me, especially Livia.''
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* YouLookFamiliar: At one point, Daniel Jackson introduces Captain Emily Satterfield to the Cylon prisoners that Earth has, which is a shock to both Earth and the Cylons, as she looks ''exactly'' like Number Eight (a.k.a. Boomer or Athena). Daniel also mentions that several of the Cylons look like people they've met before, both allies and enemies. The reason for this (out of universe) is because Grace Park played both the Number Eight model of Cylon and Emily Satterfield. Similarly, Rick Worthy played both the Goa'uld Imhotep as well as Cylon model Four, though this isn't mentioned directly.

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* YouLookFamiliar: At one point, Daniel Jackson introduces Captain Emily Satterfield to the Cylon prisoners that Earth has, which is a shock to both Earth and the Cylons, as she looks ''exactly'' like Number Eight (a.k.a. Boomer or Athena). Daniel also mentions that several of the Cylons look like people they've met before, both allies and enemies. The reason for this (out of universe) is because Grace Park played both the Number Eight model of Cylon and Emily Satterfield. Similarly, Rick Worthy Creator/RickWorthy played both the Goa'uld Imhotep as well as Cylon model Four, though this isn't mentioned directly.
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What happens when [[Series/BattlestarGalactica2003 the Twelve Colonies of Kobol]] and [[Franchise/StargateVerse the Tau'ri]] meet? Well, in the universe of this fanfic, there's only one thing that can happen: they go to war. [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3546854/1/Reunions_are_a_Bitch ''Reunions are a Bitch'']] by [[http://www.fanfiction.net/u/52257/Bob_Regent Bob Regent]] is ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin.

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What happens when [[Series/BattlestarGalactica2003 the Twelve Colonies of Kobol]] and [[Franchise/StargateVerse the Tau'ri]] meet? Well, in the universe of this fanfic, there's only one thing that can happen: they go to war. [[http://www.''[[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3546854/1/Reunions_are_a_Bitch ''Reunions Reunions are a Bitch'']] Bitch]]'' by [[http://www.fanfiction.net/u/52257/Bob_Regent Bob Regent]] is ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin.

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-->''"A clash of ideologies will cause widespread death and destruction for two races both alike and strange to the other."''
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* AlternateUniverseFic: The big differences between the two universes are solved by Vala never showing up in Series/StargateSG1's season 9 (thus, no Ori), Gerak and his supporters attacking Earth, an expanded Daedalus-class production, the Colonials meeting the Prometheus (thus sending all the Cylons' plans out of whack), and [[spoiler:Series/{{Battlestar Galactica|2003}} not taking place 150,000 years in Earth's past]]. Also, The Asgard choose to not blow themselves to kingdom come, but rather upload their minds into several giant supercomputers so that they can unravel and rebuild their own genetic structure, a process that will take centuries.

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* AlternateUniverseFic: AlternateUniverseFic:
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The big differences between the two universes are solved by Vala never showing up in Series/StargateSG1's season 9 (thus, no Ori), Gerak and his supporters attacking Earth, an expanded Daedalus-class production, the Colonials meeting the Prometheus (thus sending all the Cylons' plans out of whack), and [[spoiler:Series/{{Battlestar Galactica|2003}} not taking place 150,000 years in Earth's past]]. Also, The Asgard choose to not blow themselves to kingdom come, but rather upload their minds into several giant supercomputers so that they can unravel and rebuild their own genetic structure, a process that will take centuries.



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* CurbstompCushion: While the Colonials were driven from Earth in the initial battle, a lot of the next few chapters involve members of Earth's governments talking about how ''badly'' their position is now- the ships currently in orbit are low on ammo, the planet is suffering from the loss of many people due to the nukes, they've lost a ship and many of their fighters (which is significant since they only ''had'' six ships total, and the destroyed ship wasn't even complete, so they aren't getting new ships for a little while), several ships have damage that needs to be fixed but can't due to shortages of parts, and for the most part their weapons were ineffective (remember, most of the nuclear warheads used by Earth were destroyed before they could reach their targets, and the railguns aren't of sufficient caliber to do serious damage to enemy ships (which, not having energy shields, have extremely heavy, layered armor for defense)). The reason why Earth attacked Picon so soon after their own losses was in a desperate attempt to prevent the Colonials from attacking again by making them focus on defense and rebuilding their ''own'' forces. Several Earth leaders even state flat out that in the aftermath of the first attack, if the Colonials attacked again, they probably couldn't hold out.

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* CurbstompCushion: While the Colonials were driven from Earth in the initial battle, a lot of the next few chapters involve members of Earth's governments talking about how ''badly'' their position is now- now -- the ships currently in orbit are low on ammo, the planet is suffering from the loss of many people due to the nukes, they've lost a ship and many of their fighters (which is significant since they only ''had'' six ships total, and the destroyed ship wasn't even complete, so they aren't getting new ships for a little while), several ships have damage that needs to be fixed but can't due to shortages of parts, and for the most part their weapons were ineffective (remember, most of the nuclear warheads used by Earth were destroyed before they could reach their targets, and the railguns aren't of sufficient caliber to do serious damage to enemy ships (which, not having energy shields, have extremely heavy, layered armor for defense)). The reason why Earth attacked Picon so soon after their own losses was in a desperate attempt to prevent the Colonials from attacking again by making them focus on defense and rebuilding their ''own'' forces. Several Earth leaders even state flat out that in the aftermath of the first attack, if the Colonials attacked again, they probably couldn't hold out.



* EntertaininglyWrong: The Colonial military's report on Earth, based on intercepted transmissions of Earth TV, which concludes that Earth has had a vast interstellar empire in the past which was devastated by a war with an alien race, all based on ''Franchise/StarTrek'' and ''Film/IndependenceDay''. They also believe that the reason why they're so warlike is because Earth is covered by giant monsters... because of the film ''Cloverfield.''
* FalseReassurance: Adar mentions that the battle over Earth cost the Tau'ri 40 percent of their fleet. He convieniently left out that Earth had six ships. Also, only one Earth Ship, the ''Apollo,'' was destroyed, so it was more like only 16 to 17 percent. To make matters worse, the main reason it was destroyed (or rather, the Colonials' attempts to destroy it were successful) was because it was incomplete. One of the other seriously damaged ships was also incomplete, and suffered much of its damage because of that. Adar later states that, in the [[spoiler: attack on the Picon shipyards]], two or three Tau'ri ships were destroyed--but leaves out that those "ships" were just a few F302's (which are actually "craft", not "ships"). Curiously, in this case, it's unclear if Adar was just plain lying in an attempt to improve morale (implying that two-three capital ships were destroyed) or lying about the fact that the "ships" destroyed were in fact "craft" (fighters), and just mixed up the numbers of craft destroyed and pilots killed.

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* EntertaininglyWrong: The Colonial military's report on Earth, based on intercepted transmissions of Earth TV, which concludes that Earth has had a vast interstellar empire in the past which was devastated by a war with an alien race, all based on ''Franchise/StarTrek'' and ''Film/IndependenceDay''. They also believe that the reason why they're so warlike is because Earth is covered by giant monsters... because of the film ''Cloverfield.''
''Cloverfield''.
* FalseReassurance: Adar mentions that the battle over Earth cost the Tau'ri 40 percent of their fleet. He convieniently conveniently left out that Earth had six ships. Also, only one Earth Ship, the ''Apollo,'' ''Apollo'', was destroyed, so it was more like only 16 to 17 percent. To make matters worse, the main reason it was destroyed (or rather, the Colonials' attempts to destroy it were successful) was because it was incomplete. One of the other seriously damaged ships was also incomplete, and suffered much of its damage because of that. Adar later states that, in the [[spoiler: attack [[spoiler:attack on the Picon shipyards]], two or three Tau'ri ships were destroyed--but destroyed -- but leaves out that those "ships" were just a few F302's (which are actually "craft", not "ships"). Curiously, in this case, it's unclear if Adar was just plain lying in an attempt to improve morale (implying that two-three capital ships were destroyed) or lying about the fact that the "ships" destroyed were in fact "craft" (fighters), and just mixed up the numbers of craft destroyed and pilots killed.



* HeroicSacrifice: [[spoiler: Flight Lieutenant Fitzgerald does this so that the French F-302 pilot can make it back to the ''Odyssey''.]]
* HeroWithBadPublicity: The Earthlings, particularly America and her allied nations, have faced one media debatable after another over the course of the story, usually as a consequence of their trying to keep their advantages secret.

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* HeroicSacrifice: [[spoiler: Flight [[spoiler:Flight Lieutenant Fitzgerald does this so that the French F-302 pilot can make it back to the ''Odyssey''.]]
* HeroWithBadPublicity: The Earthlings, particularly America and her allied nations, have faced one media debatable debacle after another over the course of the story, usually as a consequence of their trying to keep their advantages secret.



* LogicalFallacies: Contrast the (real life) upwelling of support the America received after 9/11 (including none other then Fidel Castro - yes ''that UsefulNotes/FidelCastro'') with the calls for O'Neill to be charged with war crimes. Also, none of Earths scholars of Greek religion thought that it was rather suspicious a society that worshiped the Classical gods was starting a religious crusade, making them TooDumbToLive.
* MidSeasonUpgrade: The railguns on Earth's ships started at the 1 inch calibur and are at the 5 inch calibur. They also now fire naquadah/potassium rounds.

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* LogicalFallacies: Contrast the (real life) upwelling of support the America received after 9/11 (including none other then Fidel Castro - -- yes ''that UsefulNotes/FidelCastro'') with the calls for O'Neill to be charged with war crimes. Also, none of Earths scholars of Greek religion thought that it was rather suspicious a society that worshiped the Classical gods was starting a religious crusade, making them TooDumbToLive.
* MidSeasonUpgrade: The railguns on Earth's ships started at the 1 inch calibur calibre and are at the 5 inch calibur.calibre. They also now fire naquadah/potassium rounds.



** Possibly played with when one considers that earth ships have asgard upgrades on them as well. Keep in mind that the Asgard were able to keep the Goa'uld, a galaxy-wide empire, in line with merely the ''threat'' of retaliation...

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** Possibly played with when one considers that earth Earth ships have asgard Asgard upgrades on them as well. Keep in mind that the Asgard were able to keep the Goa'uld, a galaxy-wide empire, in line with merely the ''threat'' of retaliation...



* ShownTheirWork: The authors actually did quite a bit of work studying in preparation for what was being written in story... usually. In particular, badly damaged nuclear missiles don't go nuclear, especially not at full yield. And the effects of the four nuclear warheads that hit Earth in the first battle have MUCH worse effects than they realistically would--20 megaton nukes (Tsar Bomba was 50 megatons) should NOT do anywhere near that kind of damage, and the resulting tsunamis should not be able to somehow ignore physics and geography.

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* ShownTheirWork: The authors actually did quite a bit of work studying in preparation for what was being written in story... usually. In particular, badly damaged nuclear missiles don't go nuclear, especially not at full yield. And the effects of the four nuclear warheads that hit Earth in the first battle have MUCH worse effects than they realistically would--20 would -- 20 megaton nukes (Tsar Bomba was 50 megatons) should NOT do anywhere near that kind of damage, and the resulting tsunamis should not be able to somehow ignore physics and geography.



* YouLookFamiliar: At one point, Daniel Jackson introduces Captain Emily Satterfield to the Cylon prisoners that Earth has, which is a shock to both earth and the cylons, as she looks ''exactly'' like Number Eight (AKA Boomer or Athena). Daniel also mentions that several of the Cylons look like people they've met before, both allies and enemies. The reason for this (out of universe) is because Grace Park played both the Number Eight model of cylon and Emily Satterfield. Similarly, Rick Worthy played both the Goa'uld Imhotep as well as cylon model Four, though this isn't mentioned directly.

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* YouLookFamiliar: At one point, Daniel Jackson introduces Captain Emily Satterfield to the Cylon prisoners that Earth has, which is a shock to both earth Earth and the cylons, Cylons, as she looks ''exactly'' like Number Eight (AKA (a.k.a. Boomer or Athena). Daniel also mentions that several of the Cylons look like people they've met before, both allies and enemies. The reason for this (out of universe) is because Grace Park played both the Number Eight model of cylon Cylon and Emily Satterfield. Similarly, Rick Worthy played both the Goa'uld Imhotep as well as cylon Cylon model Four, though this isn't mentioned directly.
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* YouFailLogicForever: Contrast the (real life) upwelling of support the America received after 9/11 (including none other then Fidel Castro - yes ''that UsefulNotes/FidelCastro'') with the calls for O'Neill to be charged with war crimes. Also, none of Earths scholars of Greek religion thought that it was rather suspicious a society that worshiped the Classical gods was starting a religious crusade, making them TooDumbToLive.

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* YouFailLogicForever: LogicalFallacies: Contrast the (real life) upwelling of support the America received after 9/11 (including none other then Fidel Castro - yes ''that UsefulNotes/FidelCastro'') with the calls for O'Neill to be charged with war crimes. Also, none of Earths scholars of Greek religion thought that it was rather suspicious a society that worshiped the Classical gods was starting a religious crusade, making them TooDumbToLive.
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** This fanfic actually has an alternate universe of '''itself,''' called [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3876464/1/Worldwar_Discovering_the_Balance "Worldwar: Discovering the Balance,"]] where the big difference between '''these''' universes is that in the RAAB storyline, Ra wiped out the Race (From Turtledove's Literature/WorldWar series), while in "Discovering the Balance," the race shows up at around the same time the Colonials do.

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** This fanfic actually has an alternate universe of '''itself,''' called [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3876464/1/Worldwar_Discovering_the_Balance "Worldwar: Discovering the Balance,"]] ''FanFic/WorldwarDiscoveringTheBalance'', where the big difference between '''these''' universes is that in the RAAB storyline, Ra wiped out the Race (From Turtledove's Literature/WorldWar series), while in "Discovering the Balance," the race shows up at around the same time the Colonials do.
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What happens when [[Series/BattlestarGalactica2003 the Twelve Colonies of Kobol]] and [[StargateVerse the Tau'ri]] meet? Well, in the universe of this fanfic, there's only one thing that can happen: they go to war. [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3546854/1/Reunions_are_a_Bitch ''Reunions are a Bitch'']] by [[http://www.fanfiction.net/u/52257/Bob_Regent Bob Regent]] is ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin.

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What happens when [[Series/BattlestarGalactica2003 the Twelve Colonies of Kobol]] and [[StargateVerse [[Franchise/StargateVerse the Tau'ri]] meet? Well, in the universe of this fanfic, there's only one thing that can happen: they go to war. [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3546854/1/Reunions_are_a_Bitch ''Reunions are a Bitch'']] by [[http://www.fanfiction.net/u/52257/Bob_Regent Bob Regent]] is ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin.



* IntercontinuityCrossover: the ''StargateVerse'' and ''Series/{{Battlestar Galactica|2003}}''.

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* CurbstompBattle: The battle over Earth in the prologue. The Colonials lose 137 ships out of 200 while Earth loses 1 ship out of six.

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* DeathFromAbove: The debris raining down on Picon from the destroyed orbital facilities.

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The debris raining down on Picon from the destroyed orbital facilities.



* {{Doorstopper}}: The chapters are simply massive in length, and some people still complain that they don't touch on all the multitude of plot threads.
** The author has recently stated that he has finished the first book of the series, and it tops out at 23 chapters and over ''three hundred thousand words.''

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* {{Doorstopper}}: The chapters are simply massive in length, and some people still complain that they don't touch on all the multitude of plot threads. \n** Case in point: The author has recently stated that he has finished the first book of the series, and series it tops out at 23 chapters and over ''three hundred thousand words.''



** [[FridgeBrilliance Which makes sense.]] The Earth defense fleet was made up of mostly American and Russian built ships since those nations knew about the Star Gate first, and people are looking for a scapegoat.
-->"People hate the United States on principal. You're just the most visible member of the armed forces. You knew you would get this kind of thing when you took the job. It's not like being on [=SG1=] anymore."
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** [[FridgeBrilliance Which makes sense.]] The Earth defense fleet was made up of mostly American and Russian built ships since those nations knew about the Star Gate first, and people are looking for a scapegoat.
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-->'''Daniel Jackson (to Gen. O'Neil):''' People hate the United States on principal. You're just the most visible member of the armed forces. You knew you would get this kind of thing when you took the job. It's not like being on [=SG1=] anymore."
--->Daniel Jackson (to Gen. O'Neil)



* EntertaininglyWrong: The Colonial military's report on Earth, based on intercepted transmissions of Earth TV, which concludes that Earth has had a vast interstellar empire in the past which was devastated by a war with an alien race, all based on ''Franchise/StarTrek'' and ''Film/IndependenceDay''.
** They also believe that the reason why they're so warlike is because Earth is covered by giant monsters... because of the film ''Cloverfield.'' Wow.
* FalseReassurance: Adar mentions that the battle over Earth cost the Tau'ri 40 percent of their fleet. He convieniently left out that Earth had six ships.
** Also, only one Earth Ship, the ''Apollo,'' was destroyed, so it was more like only 16 to 17 percent. To make matters worse, the main reason it was destroyed (or rather, the Colonials' attempts to destroy it were successful) was because it was incomplete. One of the other seriously damaged ships was also incomplete, and suffered much of its damage because of that. Adar later states that, in the [[spoiler: attack on the Picon shipyards]], two or three Tau'ri ships were destroyed--but leaves out that those "ships" were just a few F302's (which are actually "craft", not "ships"). Curiously, in this case, it's unclear if Adar was just plain lying in an attempt to improve morale (implying that two-three capital ships were destroyed) or lying about the fact that the "ships" destroyed were in fact "craft" (fighters), and just mixed up the numbers of craft destroyed and pilots killed.

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* EntertaininglyWrong: The Colonial military's report on Earth, based on intercepted transmissions of Earth TV, which concludes that Earth has had a vast interstellar empire in the past which was devastated by a war with an alien race, all based on ''Franchise/StarTrek'' and ''Film/IndependenceDay''.
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''Film/IndependenceDay''. They also believe that the reason why they're so warlike is because Earth is covered by giant monsters... because of the film ''Cloverfield.'' Wow.
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* FalseReassurance: Adar mentions that the battle over Earth cost the Tau'ri 40 percent of their fleet. He convieniently left out that Earth had six ships.
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ships. Also, only one Earth Ship, the ''Apollo,'' was destroyed, so it was more like only 16 to 17 percent. To make matters worse, the main reason it was destroyed (or rather, the Colonials' attempts to destroy it were successful) was because it was incomplete. One of the other seriously damaged ships was also incomplete, and suffered much of its damage because of that. Adar later states that, in the [[spoiler: attack on the Picon shipyards]], two or three Tau'ri ships were destroyed--but leaves out that those "ships" were just a few F302's (which are actually "craft", not "ships"). Curiously, in this case, it's unclear if Adar was just plain lying in an attempt to improve morale (implying that two-three capital ships were destroyed) or lying about the fact that the "ships" destroyed were in fact "craft" (fighters), and just mixed up the numbers of craft destroyed and pilots killed.



* GovernmentConspiracy: Adar, the religious leaders, military leaders, and industrialists all support taking Earth for various reasons that they don't wish to disclose including lying about what happened at the Katlean Base. [[spoiler:Adar and company stated that the Prometheus destroyed the base, however it actually suffered a life support failure two weeks before the Prometheus even showed up in the Cyrannus system.]]
-->'''You can't blame the will of the gods; it's our faith that's weak, not their will'. That's what they always say, and then they walk away, with their hands clean. Not this time. Livia wanted this liberation' (ha!) as much as I did.â Adar leaned back. The entire college wanted the Tau'ri brought to heel. They couldn't wait for the new converts and their money to start flowing into their coffers. I wanted to be remembered as the man to reunite all the worlds in our war. The military and industrialists wanted that so-called primitive FTL drive and the energy shield technology. And all of the resources present on that planet! Everybody had a stake in this gamble. Now look at us, eleven worlds, one destroyed and one looking to destroy everything we stand for. Damn, I frakked this one up. But if I go down, I'm taking them down with me, especially Livia.'''

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Adar, the religious leaders, military leaders, and industrialists all support taking Earth for various reasons that they don't wish to disclose including lying about what happened at the Katlean Base. [[spoiler:Adar and company stated that the Prometheus destroyed the base, however it actually suffered a life support failure two weeks before the Prometheus even showed up in the Cyrannus system.]]
-->'''You --->''You can't blame the will of the gods; it's our faith that's weak, not their will'. That's what they always say, and then they walk away, with their hands clean. Not this time. Livia wanted this liberation' (ha!) as much as I did.â Adar leaned back. The entire college wanted the Tau'ri brought to heel. They couldn't wait for the new converts and their money to start flowing into their coffers. I wanted to be remembered as the man to reunite all the worlds in our war. The military and industrialists wanted that so-called primitive FTL drive and the energy shield technology. And all of the resources present on that planet! Everybody had a stake in this gamble. Now look at us, eleven worlds, one destroyed and one looking to destroy everything we stand for. Damn, I frakked this one up. But if I go down, I'm taking them down with me, especially Livia.'''''



* HumansThroughAlienEyes: [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3546854/16/Reunions_are_a_Bitch Chapter 16]] could be considered an essay on the subject, and is downright hilarious, as the Colonials are mainly basing their speculation and conclusions off of fictional material, and are incapable of distinguishing fiction from nonfiction. In particular, they believe the events of Star Trek (the original series and Next Generation, at least) as likely accurate, and Earth's present lack of colonies and ships is because they were nearly wiped out, or devastated, sometime in the past.
** To be fair, the reasons why they believe the things they do about Earth are explained- too much information to sort through, the fact that Trek Tech (energy beams, the type of FTL drive, shields, super torpedoes[=/=]nukes) matches up to what they know their foes have, the belief that the "Tau'ri Overlords" lied to their people, confusing the history of the planet, their own inexperience with technology... the reasons are many.
* FollowTheLeader: This fic has kicked off a multitude of different stories involving the Colonials before the BSG miniseries being complete {{Jerk Ass}}es.

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* HumansThroughAlienEyes: [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3546854/16/Reunions_are_a_Bitch Chapter 16]] could be considered an essay on the subject, and is downright hilarious, as the Colonials are mainly basing their speculation and conclusions off of fictional material, and are incapable of distinguishing fiction from nonfiction. In particular, they believe the events of Star Trek ''Star Trek'' (the original series and Next Generation, ''Next Generation'', at least) as likely accurate, and Earth's present lack of colonies and ships is because they were nearly wiped out, or devastated, sometime in the past.
** To be fair, the reasons why they believe the things they do about Earth are explained- too much information to sort through, the fact that Trek Tech (energy beams, the type of FTL drive, shields, super torpedoes[=/=]nukes) matches up to what they know their foes have, the belief that the "Tau'ri Overlords" lied to their people, confusing the history of the planet, their own inexperience with technology... the reasons are many.
* FollowTheLeader: This fic has kicked off a multitude of different stories involving the Colonials before the BSG miniseries being complete {{Jerk Ass}}es.
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* JerkAss: How do you know when a Colonial is a sympathetic character? When they hate Adar. How do you know when Adar is a sympathetic character? When he hates someone who's an even bigger wanker then he is.

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* JerkAss: {{Jerkass}}: How do you know when a Colonial is a sympathetic character? When they hate Adar. How do you know when Adar is a sympathetic character? When he hates someone who's an even bigger wanker then he is.



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* NormalFishInATinyPond: Influenza. While the strain that was released into the Colonies isn't that bad on Earth, the Colonials have no immunity to it. As of chapter 23, Picon (in addition to the bombardment of the base's wreckage) and Saggitaron have both been devastated by what the colonies call "the Picon Plague."

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** Possibly also played with when one considers that earth ships have asgard upgrades on them as well. Keep in mind that the Asgard were able to keep the Goa'uld, a galaxy-wide empire, in line with merely the ''threat'' of retaliation...

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** Possibly also played with when one considers that earth ships have asgard upgrades on them as well. Keep in mind that the Asgard were able to keep the Goa'uld, a galaxy-wide empire, in line with merely the ''threat'' of retaliation...



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* WarFic: Considering that the story kicks off with a massive space battle, this is pretty much a given.
** Deconstructed somewhat, though, because instead of showing battle after glorious battle, a lot of the story has been dealing with both sides licking their wounds, trying to rebuild after the first battles, and handling public relations. Earth's primary priority is to get more ships online so that they can hold off another Colonial attack, but they ''know'' that if they attack again, things could end much worse due to numbers disparity.

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given. Deconstructed somewhat, though, because instead of showing battle after glorious battle, a lot of the story has been dealing with both sides licking their wounds, trying to rebuild after the first battles, and handling public relations. Earth's primary priority is to get more ships online so that they can hold off another Colonial attack, but they ''know'' that if they attack again, things could end much worse due to numbers disparity.
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** This fanfic actually has an alternate universe of '''itself,''' called [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3876464/1/Worldwar_Discovering_the_Balance "Worldwar: Discovering the Balance,"]] where the big difference between '''these''' universes is that in the RAAB storyline, Ra wiped out the Race (From Turtledove's WorldWar series), while in "Discovering the Balance," the race shows up at around the same time the Colonials do.

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** This fanfic actually has an alternate universe of '''itself,''' called [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3876464/1/Worldwar_Discovering_the_Balance "Worldwar: Discovering the Balance,"]] where the big difference between '''these''' universes is that in the RAAB storyline, Ra wiped out the Race (From Turtledove's WorldWar Literature/WorldWar series), while in "Discovering the Balance," the race shows up at around the same time the Colonials do.
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What happens when [[Series/BattlestarGalacticaReimagined the Twelve Colonies of Kobol]] and [[StargateVerse the Tau'ri]] meet? Well, in the universe of this fanfic, there's only one thing that can happen: they go to war. [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3546854/1/Reunions_are_a_Bitch ''Reunions are a Bitch'']] by [[http://www.fanfiction.net/u/52257/Bob_Regent Bob Regent]] is ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin.

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What happens when [[Series/BattlestarGalacticaReimagined [[Series/BattlestarGalactica2003 the Twelve Colonies of Kobol]] and [[StargateVerse the Tau'ri]] meet? Well, in the universe of this fanfic, there's only one thing that can happen: they go to war. [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3546854/1/Reunions_are_a_Bitch ''Reunions are a Bitch'']] by [[http://www.fanfiction.net/u/52257/Bob_Regent Bob Regent]] is ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin.



# It [[TropeMaker popularized]] the idea of the Colonials of ''Series/{{Battlestar Galactica|Reimagined}}'' being driven by religious fanaticism to conquer the Earth. Or them just being evil, period, despite little info on whether that's true or not.

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# It [[TropeMaker popularized]] the idea of the Colonials of ''Series/{{Battlestar Galactica|Reimagined}}'' Galactica|2003}}'' being driven by religious fanaticism to conquer the Earth. Or them just being evil, period, despite little info on whether that's true or not.



* AlternateUniverseFic: The big differences between the two universes are solved by Vala never showing up in Series/StargateSG1's season 9 (thus, no Ori), Gerak and his supporters attacking Earth, an expanded Daedalus-class production, the Colonials meeting the Prometheus (thus sending all the Cylons' plans out of whack), and [[spoiler:Series/{{Battlestar Galactica|Reimagined}} not taking place 150,000 years in Earth's past]]. Also, The Asgard choose to not blow themselves to kingdom come, but rather upload their minds into several giant supercomputers so that they can unravel and rebuild their own genetic structure, a process that will take centuries.

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* AlternateUniverseFic: The big differences between the two universes are solved by Vala never showing up in Series/StargateSG1's season 9 (thus, no Ori), Gerak and his supporters attacking Earth, an expanded Daedalus-class production, the Colonials meeting the Prometheus (thus sending all the Cylons' plans out of whack), and [[spoiler:Series/{{Battlestar Galactica|Reimagined}} Galactica|2003}} not taking place 150,000 years in Earth's past]]. Also, The Asgard choose to not blow themselves to kingdom come, but rather upload their minds into several giant supercomputers so that they can unravel and rebuild their own genetic structure, a process that will take centuries.



* IntercontinuityCrossover: the ''StargateVerse'' and ''Series/{{Battlestar Galactica|Reimagined}}''.

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* IntercontinuityCrossover: the ''StargateVerse'' and ''Series/{{Battlestar Galactica|Reimagined}}''.Galactica|2003}}''.
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* YouFailLogicForever: Contrast the (real life) upwelling of support the America received after 9/11 (including none other then Fidel Castro - yes ''that FidelCastro'') with the calls for O'Neill to be charged with war crimes. Also, none of Earths scholars of Greek religion thought that it was rather suspicious a society that worshiped the Classical gods was starting a religious crusade, making them TooDumbToLive.

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* YouFailLogicForever: Contrast the (real life) upwelling of support the America received after 9/11 (including none other then Fidel Castro - yes ''that FidelCastro'') UsefulNotes/FidelCastro'') with the calls for O'Neill to be charged with war crimes. Also, none of Earths scholars of Greek religion thought that it was rather suspicious a society that worshiped the Classical gods was starting a religious crusade, making them TooDumbToLive.
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* YouLookFamiliar: At one point, Daniel Jackson introduces Captain Emily Satterfield to the Cylon prisoners that Earth has, which is a shock to both earth and the cylons, as she looks ''exactly'' like Number Eight (AKA Boomer or Athena). Daniel also mentions that several of the Cylons look like people they've met before, both allies and enemies. The reason for this (out of universe) is because Grace Park played both the Number Eight model of cylon and Emily Satterfield. Similarly, Rick Worthy played both the Goa'uld Imhotep as well as cylon model Four, though this isn't mentioned directly.
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** Part of the problem for Earth in the early parts of the story are that the conspiracy to keep the Stargate and extraterrestrial life secret have been rather violently torn down. In the wake of a massive nuclear attack on the planet and the loss of millions of people, riots, protests, and even violent assaults hamper the response time that earth's governments need to rebuild their badly damaged defenses.
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* CurbstompCushion: While the Colonials were driven from Earth in the initial battle, a lot of the next few chapters involve members of Earth's governments talking about how ''badly'' their position is now- the ships currently in orbit are low on ammo, the planet is suffering from the loss of many people due to the nukes, they've lost a ship and many of their fighters (which is significant since they only ''had'' six ships total, and the destroyed ship wasn't even complete, so they aren't getting new ships for a little while), several ships have damage that needs to be fixed but can't due to shortages of parts, and for the most part their weapons were ineffective (remember, most of the nuclear warheads used by Earth were destroyed before they could reach their targets, and the railguns aren't of sufficient caliber to do serious damage to enemy ships (which, not having energy shields, have extremely heavy, layered armor for defense)). The reason why Earth attacked Picon so soon after their own losses was in a desperate attempt to prevent the Colonials from attacking again by making them focus on defense and rebuilding their ''own'' forces. Several Earth leaders even state flat out that in the aftermath of the first attack, if the Colonials attacked again, they probably couldn't hold out.
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** To be fair, the reasons why they believe the things they do about Earth are explained- too much information to sort through, the fact that Trek Tech (energy beams, the type of FTL drive, shields, super torpedoes[=/=]nukes) matches up to what they know their foes have, the belief that the "Tau'ri Overlords" lied to their people, confusing the history of the planet, their own inexperience with technology... the reasons are many.
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** They also believe that the reason why they're so warlike is because Earth is covered by giant monsters... because of the film ''Cloverfield.'' Wow.
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* EntertaininglyWrong: The Colonial military's report on Earth, based on intercepted transmissions of Earth TV, which concludes that Earth has had a vast interstellar empire in the past which was devastated by a war with an alien race, all based on ''Franchise/StarTrek'' and ''Film/IndependenceDay''.
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* ArtisticLicenseReligion: The polytheistic Colonials cover story to their own population is perhaps the worst one possible - the average Colonial citizen ''would not have cared'' that Earth was worshiping other gods and would have reacted to Aldar's announcement with incomprehension and disbelief. It also show a profound ignorance of Colonial society (then again, [[TrollFic perhaps that was the point]])- the rest of the colonies find the Sagittarons attitude towards modern medicine annoying, but they don’t bother to force their own views on them. Same with the Gemenon. There is no evidence that any other planets aside from Capricia persecuted monotheists. Not to mention the decision to allow Cult of Baltar to practice freely - and that's ''after'' the cylon genocide that killed all but 50 thousand out of twenty billion. To put it in perspective, imagine if the 9/11 attack killed all but 700 about of a popluation of 280 million, and a handful of the survivors converted to Islam. How well would said converts would be treated?
** Indeed. If anything the rabid anti-monotheism would have made far more sense in a pre-cylon war fic, given what we see in Caprica.

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* ArtisticLicenseReligion: The polytheistic Colonials cover story to their own population is perhaps the worst one possible - the average Colonial citizen ''would not have cared'' that Earth was worshiping other gods and would have reacted to Aldar's announcement with incomprehension and disbelief. It also show a profound ignorance of Colonial society (then again, [[TrollFic perhaps that was the point]])- the rest of the colonies find the Sagittarons attitude towards modern medicine annoying, but they don’t bother to force their own views on them. Same with the Gemenon. There is no evidence that any other planets aside from Capricia persecuted monotheists. Not to mention the decision to allow Cult of Baltar to practice freely - and that's ''after'' the cylon genocide that killed all but 50 thousand out of twenty billion. To put it in perspective, imagine if the 9/11 attack killed all but 700 about of a popluation of 280 million, and a handful of the survivors converted to Islam. How well would said converts would be treated?
** Indeed. If anything the rabid anti-monotheism would have made far more sense in a pre-cylon war fic, given what we see in Caprica.



* TearJerker: General Hammond's [[spoiler: funeral.]]
* YouFailReligiousStudiesForever: The polytheistic Colonials cover story to their own population is perhaps the worst one possible - the average Colonial citizen ''would not have cared'' that Earth was worshiping other gods and would have reacted to Aldar's announcement with incomprehension and disbelief. It also show a profound ignorance of Colonial society (then again, [[TrollFic perhaps that was the point]])- the rest of the colonies find the Sagittarons attitude towards modern medicine annoying, but they don’t bother to force their own views on them. Same with the Gemenon. There is no evidence that any other planets aside from Capricia persecuted monotheists. Not to mention the decision to allow Cult of Baltar to practice freely - and that's ''after'' the cylon genocide that killed all but 50 thousand out of twenty billion. To put it in perspective, imagine if the 9/11 attack killed all but 700 about of a popluation of 280 million, and a handful of the survivors converted to Islam. How well would said converts would be treated?
** Indeed. If anything the rabid anti-monotheism would have made far more sense in a pre-cylon war fic, given what we see in Caprica.
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* YouFailLogicForever: Contrast the (real life) upwelling of support the America received after 9/11 (including none other then Fidel Castro - yes ''that FidelCastro'') with the calls for O'Neill to be charged with war crimes. Also, none of Earths scholars of Greek religion thought that it was rather suspicious a society that worshiped the Classical gods was starting a religious crusade, making them TooDumbToLive.


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* YouFailReligiousStudiesForever: The polytheistic Colonials cover story to their own population is perhaps the worst one possible - the average Colonial citizen ''would not have cared'' that Earth was worshiping other gods and would have reacted to Aldar's announcement with incomprehension and disbelief. It also show a profound ignorance of Colonial society (then again, [[TrollFic perhaps that was the point]])- the rest of the colonies find the Sagittarons attitude towards modern medicine annoying, but they don’t bother to force their own views on them. Same with the Gemenon. There is no evidence that any other planets aside from Capricia persecuted monotheists. Not to mention the decision to allow Cult of Baltar to practice freely - and that's ''after'' the cylon genocide that killed all but 50 thousand out of twenty billion. To put it in perspective, imagine if the 9/11 attack killed all but 700 about of a popluation of 280 million, and a handful of the survivors converted to Islam. How well would said converts would be treated?
** Indeed. If anything the rabid anti-monotheism would have made far more sense in a pre-cylon war fic, given what we see in Caprica.
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** Possibly also played with when one considers that earth ships have asgard upgrades on them as well. Keep in mind that the Asgard were able to keep the Goa'uld, a galaxy-wide empire, in line with merely the ''threat'' of retaliation...
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* AlternateUniverseFic: The big differences between the two universes are solved by Vala never showing up in StargateSG1's season 9 (thus, no Ori), Gerak and his supporters attacking Earth, an expanded Daedalus-class production, the Colonials meeting the Prometheus (thus sending all the Cylons' plans out of whack), and [[spoiler:Series/{{Battlestar Galactica|Reimagined}} not taking place 150,000 years in Earth's past]]. Also, The Asgard choose to not blow themselves to kingdom come, but rather upload their minds into several giant supercomputers so that they can unravel and rebuild their own genetic structure, a process that will take centuries.

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* AlternateUniverseFic: The big differences between the two universes are solved by Vala never showing up in StargateSG1's Series/StargateSG1's season 9 (thus, no Ori), Gerak and his supporters attacking Earth, an expanded Daedalus-class production, the Colonials meeting the Prometheus (thus sending all the Cylons' plans out of whack), and [[spoiler:Series/{{Battlestar Galactica|Reimagined}} not taking place 150,000 years in Earth's past]]. Also, The Asgard choose to not blow themselves to kingdom come, but rather upload their minds into several giant supercomputers so that they can unravel and rebuild their own genetic structure, a process that will take centuries.
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** Deconstructed somewhat, though, because instead of showing battle after glorious battle, a lot of the story has been dealing with both sides licking their wounds, trying to rebuild after the first battles, and handling public relations. Earth's primary priority is to get more ships online so that they can hold off another Colonial attack, but they ''know'' that if they attack again, things could end much worse due to numbers disparity.

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