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* {{Asexuality}}: Rorschach. see ''Characters.{{Watchmen}}'' for details.
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* {{Asexuality}}: Rorschach.Rorschach, and Dr. Manhattan, though he only does it to keep Silk Spectre happy. see ''Characters.{{Watchmen}}'' for details.
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*PowerFromDestruction: Doctor Manhattan gains power from being disintegrated.
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* YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness: [[spoiler: Ozymandias poisons his assistants, and congratulates them for helping create a new utopia (as they are either dead or dying), then lets their bodies be hidden by snow cover. He also blows up the artists who helped create the monster.]]
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* YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness: [[spoiler: Ozymandias poisons his assistants, and congratulates them for helping create a new utopia (as they are either dead or dying), then lets their bodies be hidden by snow cover. Later, he tells the others that his assistants accidentally killed themselves. He also blows up the artists who helped create the monster.]]
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--> Nothing ends, Troper. Nothing ever ends.
--> Nothing ends, Troper. Nothing ever ends.
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* YouAreTooLate: [[spoiler: "I did it ThirtyFiveMinutesAgo." Formerly the TropeNamer.]]
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* YouAreTooLate: [[spoiler: "I did it ThirtyFiveMinutesAgo." Formerly the TropeNamer.Thirty-five minutes late, to be exact.]]
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trope is being cut per TRS thread http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=1327413995051052300&page=2
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* TheThreeFacesOfAdam: Rorschach (Hunter), Nite Owl II (Lord), and both the Comedian and Ozymandias are Prophets.
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* TotalitarianUtilitarian: [[spoiler: Adrian Veidt.]]
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* TooDumbToLive: The prisoners in the jail Rorschach was sent to. No matter WHAT he does to any of them, they are determined to get at him.
* TotalitarianUtilitarian:[[spoiler: Adrian [[spoiler:Adrian Veidt.]]
* TotalitarianUtilitarian:
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* RefrigeratorAmbush: Rorschach pulls one off.
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It's FilmNoir. It's RaygunGothic. It's a [[TheGoldenAgeOfComicBooks Golden Age]] superhero story. It's a [[TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks Silver Age]] superhero story. It's a [[TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks Dark Age]] superhero story[[hottip:*:Some say it launched the DarkAge.]]. It's SciFi. It's CyberPunk. It's ThePirateJenny. It's AlternateHistory. It's [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotPolitical Political]]. It's a {{Deconstruction}} of superheroes. It's [[GenreBusting a lot of things.]] It's ''Watchmen,'' and it's one of the most influential pieces of literature ever.
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It's FilmNoir. It's RaygunGothic. It's a [[TheGoldenAgeOfComicBooks Golden Age]] superhero story. It's a [[TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks Silver Age]] superhero story. It's a [[TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks Dark Age]] superhero story[[hottip:*:Some say it launched the DarkAge.]]. It's SciFi. It's CyberPunk. It's ThePirateJenny.Music/ThePirateJenny. It's AlternateHistory. It's [[WhatDoYouMeanItsNotPolitical Political]]. It's a {{Deconstruction}} of superheroes. It's [[GenreBusting a lot of things.]] It's ''Watchmen,'' and it's one of the most influential pieces of literature ever.
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* PirateJenny: "The Black Freighter" is a ShoutOut.
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* ShoutOut: ShoutOut:
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** The entire "Tales of the Black Freighter" comic-within-a-comic is inspired by ''Theatre/TheThreepennyOpera''.
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** The entire "Tales of the Black Freighter" comic-within-a-comic is inspired by ''Theatre/TheThreepennyOpera''.''Theatre/TheThreepennyOpera'' and the song "Music/PiratJenny" (a.k.a. "The Black Freighter") in particular.
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** The child kidnapper murdered by Rorschach named his dogs [[TheFlintstones Fred and Barney]].
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*** Further mirror motives implied when it's revealed that [[spoiler: the news vendor and the black comic book reader share the same name. Bernard.]]
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*** Further mirror motives motifs implied when it's revealed that [[spoiler: the news vendor and the black comic book reader share the same name. Bernard.]]
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*** Further mirror motives implied when it's revealed that [[spoiler: the news vendor and the black comic book reader share the same name. Bernard.]]
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I think he was talking about the film, Sean.
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** The entire "Tales of the Black Freighter" comic-within-a-comic is inspired by ''TheThreepennyOpera''.
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** The entire "Tales of the Black Freighter" comic-within-a-comic is inspired by ''TheThreepennyOpera''.''Theatre/TheThreepennyOpera''.
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There's also a prequel game, ''Watchmen: The End is Nigh'', and [[http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/12/01/andy-kubert-to-draw-watchmen-2/ a prequel is currently in the works]] (that will not involve Alan Moore).
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There's also a prequel game, ''Watchmen: The End is Nigh'', and [[http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/12/01/andy-kubert-to-draw-watchmen-2/ comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=36724 a prequel series titled "Before Watchmen" that is currently in the works]] (that (and will not involve Alan Moore).
Moore or Dave Gibbons).
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** If you flip the two pages of the graphic novel back & forth when he says this, Manhattan is in the same position on both pages, in the same pose, saying the same thing, highlighting his non-linear perception of time.
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** Though Manhattan's narration points out that this was due at least partly to the shock of suddenly finding themselves back home.
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It can\'t be \"construed to refer to Geogre W Bush\" because he wasn\'t relevant to anything when the story was written. You mean to say it can be \"construed to be APPLIED to George W Bush\", which makes it irrelevant to the Allohisorical Allusion trope, anyway.
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** Also a possible modernization; talking about Reagan and talking about cowboy actors could be construed to refer to George W. Bush, widely referred to as a cowboy, thus preserving the original jab at Reagan as a jab at the current president.
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* TeleportationSickness: Others besides Dr. Manhattan tend to find his teleporting them unpleasant, some rioters even suffering hearrt attacks when he puts them back home.
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* TeleportationSickness: Others besides Dr. Manhattan tend to find his teleporting them unpleasant, some rioters even suffering hearrt heart attacks when he puts them back home.
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** The elevator man's announcement "Ground floor coming right up" is juxtaposed with a picture of Edward Blake being thrown out the window.
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** The elevator man's announcement "Ground floor coming right up" is juxtaposed with a picture of Edward Blake being thrown out the window.
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* GambitRoulette: Plays straight, lampshades, and then almost immediately subverts this trope.
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* XanatosRoulette: Plays straight, lampshades, and then almost immediately subverts this trope.
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* AnalogyBackfire: The lock company "[[CuttingTheKnot Gordian Knot]]"; arguably choosing the name Ozymandias.
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* GoodCopBadCop: Nite Owl and Rorschach, respectively. However, this gets reversed when Nite Owl, angered over [[spoiler:the death of Hollis Mason]], [[RabidCop goes overboard]] during an interrogation and ''Rorschach'' has to reign him in.
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There's also a prequel game, ''Watchmen: The End is Nigh'', and [[http://www.bleedingcool.com/2010/02/03/get-ready-for-watchmen-2/ a sequel may be in the works]] (that will not involve Alan Moore).
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There's also a prequel game, ''Watchmen: The End is Nigh'', and [[http://www.bleedingcool.com/2010/02/03/get-ready-for-watchmen-2/ com/2011/12/01/andy-kubert-to-draw-watchmen-2/ a sequel may be prequel is currently in the works]] (that will not involve Alan Moore).
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* CelebrityParadox: Both dealt with and averted. DCComics apparently ''did'' exist in the ''Watchmen'' 'verse, but the complications caused by real costumed vigilantes has led to superhero comics falling out of popularity. Superheroes that are cultural icons in our world have long since fallen into obscurity by the events of the story, which is why nobody notices the similarities between Nite Owl and {{Batman}} or between Rorschach and {{the Question}}. Since DC's superhero books have presumably been out of circulation for decades, this also conveniently avoids questions about who wrote ''ForTheManWhoHasEverything'' and ''WhateverHappenedToTheManOfTomorrow''.
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* ItWillNeverCatchOn: The "cowboy actor" joke listed in AllohistoricalAllusion.
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* PeekABoo: Generally averted with Doctor Manhattan's nudity, but not always. There are a couple of pages in chapter three that look like something out of ''AustinPowers''.
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natter. Likely or not it\'s still a cliffhanger
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** Seems very unlikely. [[spoiler: The journal only implicates Ozymandias in the murder of an ex-superhero and ex-villain, and maybe of some kind of indirect involvement with otherwise unconnected people who got terminal cancer. The squid, and the explosions in the movie, were completely unexpected to Rorschach when he left the journal. All this is a very unreliable source implicating a very respected, reliable, rich guy, in a newspaper that's hardly the New York Times, and even if the allegations about the Comedian and Moloch get taken seriously there's still nothing linking them to the "alien" or explosions.]] There's some risk of discovery, you never know, but it seemed much more like an echo and demonstration of Dr. Manhattan's line "it never ends". Life goes on.
** [[spoiler: Seymour was told that they couldn't use anything attacking Russians, and Rorschach writes a highly anti-Communist phrase before implicating anyone, so it'll probably get thrown away.]]
*** Do remember that ''New Frontiersman'' [[spoiler:loves vigilantes. All it would take is one of the guys there realizing it's '''Rorschach's''' journal for them to mass-publish the entire thing intact.]]
** [[spoiler: Seymour was told that they couldn't use anything attacking Russians, and Rorschach writes a highly anti-Communist phrase before implicating anyone, so it'll probably get thrown away.]]
*** Do remember that ''New Frontiersman'' [[spoiler:loves vigilantes. All it would take is one of the guys there realizing it's '''Rorschach's''' journal for them to mass-publish the entire thing intact.]]
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** It's implied that he believes that those accusations are wholly invented or at least significantly exaggerated. He specifically doubts the accuracy of Hollis Mason's ''Under the Hood''.
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* {{Stripperiffic}}: Both Silk Spectres. Justified in that Sally Jupiter became the first Silk Spectre [[MoneyDearBoy to boost her modeling career]]. And deconstructed, as Laurie hates her costume for precisely this quality [[spoiler:and is implied to eventually decide to dress in something more practical, akin to her father's costume]].
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* {{Stripperiffic}}: Both Silk Spectres. Justified An odd LampshadeHanging, in which a character uses it as a warped justification for AttemptedRape. It's also noticeable that Sally Jupiter became the first Silk Spectre [[MoneyDearBoy to boost her modeling career]]. And deconstructed, as Laurie hates her costume was only very Stripperiffic by 1940 standards, as it's basically a very short backless gown with stockings.
** Further lampshade hanging when her daughter/successor complains about how ridiculous her own costume was. Unlampshaded when she puts the costume on forprecisely her new boyfriend and doesn't stop wearing it for the rest of the series (though there wasn't time to get a new one).
** And let's not forget Dr. Manhattan, whose progressively-diminished costume provides a Stripperific clue as to how far back in his personal timeline each of his flashback appearances lies. The fact that he's first seen buck-naked, and is only later seen in skin-tight bodysuits or Speedos, may be a bit of a joke on thisquality [[spoiler:and is implied to eventually decide to dress in something more practical, akin to her father's costume]].trope.
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** And let's not forget Dr. Manhattan, whose progressively-diminished costume provides a Stripperific clue as to how far back in his personal timeline each of his flashback appearances lies. The fact that he's first seen buck-naked, and is only later seen in skin-tight bodysuits or Speedos, may be a bit of a joke on this
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* StopWorshippingMe: Dr. Manhattan is powerful enough to be considered divine, but resents being perceived this way. He says something like "I don't think there is a god, and if there is he's probably nothing like me".