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* JustBetweenYouAndMe: Justified. [[spoiler:He did it 35 minutes ago.]]
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* JustBetweenYouAndMe: Justified. [[spoiler:He did it 35 minutes ago. Also, Dan and Rorschach are his former comrades, and he thinks he can convince them that he did the right thing. He suceeds with Dan.]]
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he doesn't drown him, that wouldn't bleed
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** It's heavily implied that he does it again later, [[spoiler: drowning the Big Figure in a toilet.]]
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** It's heavily implied that he does it again later, [[spoiler: drowning killing the Big Figure in a toilet.]]
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* {{Asexual}}: He also seems to have active Oedipal hang-ups, however.
** To say he's asexual is at best debatable. He says that putting on his mask lets him be free of "fear or weakness or lust"; this along with his general fixation with sex would make it seem more likely that he does have sexual desires, but is so disgusted with sexuality that he thinks himself above it and represses it as best he can. Anyway, the asexuality theory is probably completely discounted by the creepy wet-dream/nightmare he had about his mom when he was a kid.
** To say he's asexual is at best debatable. He says that putting on his mask lets him be free of "fear or weakness or lust"; this along with his general fixation with sex would make it seem more likely that he does have sexual desires, but is so disgusted with sexuality that he thinks himself above it and represses it as best he can. Anyway, the asexuality theory is probably completely discounted by the creepy wet-dream/nightmare he had about his mom when he was a kid.
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* {{Asexual}}: He also seems likes to have think of himself as this, but doesn't seem to be truly asexual given his active Oedipal hang-ups, however.
** To say he's asexual is at best debatable.hang-ups. He says once that putting on his mask lets him be free of "fear or weakness or lust"; this along with his general fixation with sex would make it seem more likely that he does have sexual desires, but is so disgusted with sexuality that he thinks himself above it lust", and represses it as best he can. Anyway, the asexuality theory is probably completely discounted by the once had some kind of creepy wet-dream/nightmare he had wet-dream nightmare about his mom when he was a kid.
** To say he's asexual is at best debatable.
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** He also speaks much the same way he writes--in clipped sentences--with an annoying nasal accent, although this may be due to his prolonged social isolation more than his mental condition.
*** In the 1960s flashback in issue 2 he still speaks in normal sentences and with a normal voice.
*** It's also likely he is purposefully or subconsciously modifying his voice as he speaks differently out of costume.
**** Although that changes after his arrest - probably he becomes completely Rorschach, mask or no, at that point.
*** In the 1960s flashback in issue 2 he still speaks in normal sentences and with a normal voice.
*** It's also likely he is purposefully or subconsciously modifying his voice as he speaks differently out of costume.
**** Although that changes after his arrest - probably he becomes completely Rorschach, mask or no, at that point.
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** He also speaks much the same way he writes--in clipped sentences--with an annoying nasal accent, although this may be due to his prolonged social isolation more than his mental condition.
*** In the 1960s flashback in issue 2 he still speaks in normal sentences and with a normal voice.
*** It's also likely he is purposefully or subconsciously modifying his voice as hecondition. He speaks differently out outside of costume.
**** Although that changes aftercostume (at least up until his arrest - probably he becomes completely Rorschach, mask or no, at that point.arrest), and spoke normally during flashbacks to the 1960s.
*** In the 1960s flashback in issue 2 he still speaks in normal sentences and with a normal voice.
*** It's also likely he is purposefully or subconsciously modifying his voice as he
**** Although that changes after
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** Also Rorschach's one limit. He won't punish his landlady for (falsely) telling the news he slept with her, because her kids are with her.
*** Also, perhaps, because he saw himself in her son. And unlike ''his'' mother, she was holding her kids like she loved them.
*** Also, perhaps, because he saw himself in her son. And unlike ''his'' mother, she was holding her kids like she loved them.
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** Also Rorschach's one limit. He won't punish his landlady for (falsely) telling the news he slept with her, because her kids are with her.
***her. Also, perhaps, because he saw himself in her son. And unlike ''his'' mother, she was holding her kids like she loved them.
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* Main/CelibateHero: He's messed up beyond all recognition about anything to do with sex, due to child abuse.
** Interestingly, Rorschach does hint in his diary that he might not be completely devoid of normal sexual desires: he hints that he's holding out for "American love" (as opposed to "Swedish love" and "French love") but "they don't make it anymore." Maybe his standards are just too impossibly high for anyone to meet.
*** He does seem to have something of a Madonna-Whore Complex, and, given that he's, well, ''him'', tying it to nationalism doesn't seem a massive leap.
** Saying he "was offered Swedish love and French love but not American love" doesn't really imply he was looking for the latter; it was presumably an observation of the hookers' nationalities.
*** This may just be my dirty mind, but "Swedish love" and "French love" seemed to suggest techniques or "styles", rather than particular nationalities; few French or Swedish women head to New York to become prostitutes, after all, they can do it at home for the same money. It seems to imply that these forms of "foreign" love are decadent and impure--the "Whore" side of the complex--in contrast to the implicitly all-American Madonna.
** Interestingly, Rorschach does hint in his diary that he might not be completely devoid of normal sexual desires: he hints that he's holding out for "American love" (as opposed to "Swedish love" and "French love") but "they don't make it anymore." Maybe his standards are just too impossibly high for anyone to meet.
*** He does seem to have something of a Madonna-Whore Complex, and, given that he's, well, ''him'', tying it to nationalism doesn't seem a massive leap.
** Saying he "was offered Swedish love and French love but not American love" doesn't really imply he was looking for the latter; it was presumably an observation of the hookers' nationalities.
*** This may just be my dirty mind, but "Swedish love" and "French love" seemed to suggest techniques or "styles", rather than particular nationalities; few French or Swedish women head to New York to become prostitutes, after all, they can do it at home for the same money. It seems to imply that these forms of "foreign" love are decadent and impure--the "Whore" side of the complex--in contrast to the implicitly all-American Madonna.
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* Main/CelibateHero: He's messed up beyond all recognition about anything to do with sex, due to child abuse. \n** Interestingly, Rorschach does hint in his diary that he might not be completely devoid of normal sexual desires: he hints that he's holding out for "American love" (as opposed to "Swedish love" and "French love") but "they don't make it anymore." Maybe his standards are just too impossibly high for anyone to meet.\n*** He does seem to have something of a Madonna-Whore Complex, and, given that he's, well, ''him'', tying it to nationalism doesn't seem has a massive leap.
** Sayingmaddona-whore complex and mentions once that he "was offered was "offered Swedish love and French love but not American love" doesn't really imply he was looking for the latter; it was presumably an observation of the hookers' nationalities.
*** This may just be my dirty mind, but "Swedish love" and "French love" seemed to suggest techniques or "styles", rather than particular nationalities; few French or Swedish women head to New York to become prostitutes, after all, they can do it at home for the same money. It seems to imply that these forms of "foreign"love are decadent and impure--the "Whore" side of the complex--in contrast [by prostitutes]," however you want to the implicitly all-American Madonna.interpret that.
** Saying
*** This may just be my dirty mind, but "Swedish love" and "French love" seemed to suggest techniques or "styles", rather than particular nationalities; few French or Swedish women head to New York to become prostitutes, after all, they can do it at home for the same money. It seems to imply that these forms of "foreign"
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** Not necessarily. It's more of the fact he's very shy around women, generally.
*** Shy? When was the last time you called a girl a whore to her face when you felt shy around her?
*** Shy? When was the last time you called a girl a whore to her face when you felt shy around her?
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** I think Rorschach was merely observing and admitted he himself was a bit loony.
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Silly me; left my anti-swearing filter on...
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* TheCanKickedHim: Rorschach uses a toilet to kill a goon. In depth: the goon came at Rorschach with a poorly-insulated arc welder. Rorschach smashes his prison toilet to flood the cell with water and fry the love child. Which he immediately Lampshades:
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* TheCanKickedHim: Rorschach uses a toilet to kill a goon. In depth: the goon came at Rorschach with a poorly-insulated arc welder. Rorschach smashes his prison toilet to flood the cell with water and fry the love child.bastard. Which he immediately Lampshades:
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* MemeticMutation: "'''RRAARRL'''" and "Hurm."
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* MemeticMutation: "'''RRAARRL'''" "'''RRAAAARRL'''" and "Hurm."
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* [[spoiler:MagnificentLove child: Especially after TheReveal.]]
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* [[spoiler:MagnificentLove child: [[spoiler:MagnificentBastard: Especially after TheReveal.]]
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-->'''Dr. Manhattan:''' "Blake, she was ''pregnant''. You gunned her down."
-->'''Comedian:''' "Yeah. Yeah, that's right. Pregnant woman. Gunned her down. ''Bang''. And y'know what? You ''watched'' me. You coulda changed the gun into steam or the bullets into mercury or the bottle into snowflakes! You coulda teleported ''either'' of us to blasted ''Australia''... but you didn't lift a ''finger''!"
The only truly superpowered character in the story, due to a FreakLabAccident, Jon Osterman gained ***like powers and blue skin. He's used his powers to revolutionize the world, provide energy for electric cars and blimps, and continues to work on amazing new technology... but just doesn't seem to care about anything any more, or do anything unless he's told to.
* AAmI: Dr Manhattan appears to be all-powerful, but Jon himself feels trapped by his perception of time; he grows more and more detached from humanity as a result, eventually leaving to go experiment with creating life elsewhere and thus genuinely become a ***.
-->'''Comedian:''' "Yeah. Yeah, that's right. Pregnant woman. Gunned her down. ''Bang''. And y'know what? You ''watched'' me. You coulda changed the gun into steam or the bullets into mercury or the bottle into snowflakes! You coulda teleported ''either'' of us to blasted ''Australia''... but you didn't lift a ''finger''!"
The only truly superpowered character in the story, due to a FreakLabAccident, Jon Osterman gained ***like powers and blue skin. He's used his powers to revolutionize the world, provide energy for electric cars and blimps, and continues to work on amazing new technology... but just doesn't seem to care about anything any more, or do anything unless he's told to.
* AAmI: Dr Manhattan appears to be all-powerful, but Jon himself feels trapped by his perception of time; he grows more and more detached from humanity as a result, eventually leaving to go experiment with creating life elsewhere and thus genuinely become a ***.
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* AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence: [[spoiler: Leaves the galaxy to create life somewhere else, effectively fitting the definition of .]]
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* AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence: [[spoiler: Leaves the galaxy to create life somewhere else, effectively fitting the definition of .of God.]]
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* BlessedWithSuck / CursedWithAwesome: Manhattan's power. The accident erased him from existence, but he [[{{IGotBetter}} came back]] with ***like powers. Then again, he's gradually detaching from the rest of humanity...
* BrokenAce: Came back from wherever he was with ***-like powers and becomes the most powerful and popular man in the world. [[CameBackWrong But he doesn't care about people anymore]].
* BrokenAce: Came back from wherever he was with ***-like powers and becomes the most powerful and popular man in the world. [[CameBackWrong But he doesn't care about people anymore]].
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* BlessedWithSuck / CursedWithAwesome: Manhattan's power. The accident erased him from existence, but he [[{{IGotBetter}} came back]] with ***like godlike powers. Then again, he's gradually detaching from the rest of humanity...
* BrokenAce: Came back from wherever he was with***-like god-like powers and becomes the most powerful and popular man in the world. [[CameBackWrong But he doesn't care about people anymore]].
* BrokenAce: Came back from wherever he was with
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-->''"I don't know anybody! I don't know anyone except blasted superheroes!''"
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Minor spelling fix.
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* BerserkButton: The same as Batman's: [[spoiler:don't ever harm a child]]. This was a one-way Berserk Button for ole Rorschach.
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* BerserkButton: The same as Batman's: [[spoiler:don't ever harm a child]]. This was a an one-way Berserk Button for ole Rorschach.
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* TheCanKickedHim: Rorschach uses a toilet to kill a goon. In depth: the goon came at Rorschach with a poorly-insulated arc welder. Rorschach smashes his prison toilet to flood the cell with water and fry the bastard. Which he immediately Lampshades:
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* TheCanKickedHim: Rorschach uses a toilet to kill a goon. In depth: the goon came at Rorschach with a poorly-insulated arc welder. Rorschach smashes his prison toilet to flood the cell with water and fry the bastard.love child. Which he immediately Lampshades:
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*** This may just be my dirty mind, but "Swedish love" and "French love" seemed to suggest techniques or "styles", rather than particular nationalities; few French or Swedish women head to New York to become prostitutes, after all, they can do it at home for the same money. It seems to imply that these forms of "foreign" love are decadent and impure- the "Whore" side of the complex- in contrast to the implicit all-American Maddonna.
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*** This may just be my dirty mind, but "Swedish love" and "French love" seemed to suggest techniques or "styles", rather than particular nationalities; few French or Swedish women head to New York to become prostitutes, after all, they can do it at home for the same money. It seems to imply that these forms of "foreign" love are decadent and impure- the impure--the "Whore" side of the complex- in complex--in contrast to the implicit implicitly all-American Maddonna.Madonna.
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* NiceHat: In the movie, he keeps picking it up even when Ozy keeps kicking his ass.butt.
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* Main/StylishProtectionGear: It's [[http://starsmedia.ign.com/stars/image/article/958/958359/the-many-looks-of-the-watchmen-20090302015820596-000.jpg ted protection gear]] alright, but it's [[{{Narm}} not very stylish]].
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* Main/StylishProtectionGear: It's [[http://starsmedia.ign.com/stars/image/article/958/958359/the-many-looks-of-the-watchmen-20090302015820596-000.jpg ted protection gear]] alright, all right, but it's [[{{Narm}} not very stylish]].
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-->'''Comedian:''' "Yeah. Yeah, that's right. Pregnant woman. Gunned her down. ''Bang''. And y'know what? You ''watched'' me. You coulda changed the gun into steam or the bullets into mercury or the bottle into snowflakes! You coulda teleported ''either'' of us to goddamn ''Australia''... but you didn't lift a ''finger''!"
The only truly superpowered character in the story, due to a FreakLabAccident, Jon Osterman gained godlike powers and blue skin. He's used his powers to revolutionize the world, provide energy for electric cars and blimps, and continues to work on amazing new technology... but just doesn't seem to care about anything any more, or do anything unless he's told to.
* AGodAmI: Dr Manhattan appears to be all-powerful, but Jon himself feels trapped by his perception of time; he grows more and more detached from humanity as a result, eventually leaving to go experiment with creating life elsewhere and thus genuinely become a god.
The only truly superpowered character in the story, due to a FreakLabAccident, Jon Osterman gained godlike powers and blue skin. He's used his powers to revolutionize the world, provide energy for electric cars and blimps, and continues to work on amazing new technology... but just doesn't seem to care about anything any more, or do anything unless he's told to.
* AGodAmI: Dr Manhattan appears to be all-powerful, but Jon himself feels trapped by his perception of time; he grows more and more detached from humanity as a result, eventually leaving to go experiment with creating life elsewhere and thus genuinely become a god.
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-->'''Comedian:''' "Yeah. Yeah, that's right. Pregnant woman. Gunned her down. ''Bang''. And y'know what? You ''watched'' me. You coulda changed the gun into steam or the bullets into mercury or the bottle into snowflakes! You coulda teleported ''either'' of us to goddamn blasted ''Australia''... but you didn't lift a ''finger''!"
The only truly superpowered character in the story, due to a FreakLabAccident, Jon Osterman gainedgodlike ***like powers and blue skin. He's used his powers to revolutionize the world, provide energy for electric cars and blimps, and continues to work on amazing new technology... but just doesn't seem to care about anything any more, or do anything unless he's told to.
*AGodAmI: AAmI: Dr Manhattan appears to be all-powerful, but Jon himself feels trapped by his perception of time; he grows more and more detached from humanity as a result, eventually leaving to go experiment with creating life elsewhere and thus genuinely become a god.***.
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* AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence: [[spoiler: Leaves the galaxy to create life somewhere else, effectively fitting the definition of God.]]
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* AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence: [[spoiler: Leaves the galaxy to create life somewhere else, effectively fitting the definition of God.of .]]
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* BlessedWithSuck / CursedWithAwesome: Manhattan's power. The accident erased him from existence, but he [[{{IGotBetter}} came back]] with godlike powers. Then again, he's gradually detaching from the rest of humanity...
* BrokenAce: Came back from wherever he was with god-like powers and becomes the most powerful and popular man in the world. [[CameBackWrong But he doesn't care about people anymore]].
* BrokenAce: Came back from wherever he was with god-like powers and becomes the most powerful and popular man in the world. [[CameBackWrong But he doesn't care about people anymore]].
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* BlessedWithSuck / CursedWithAwesome: Manhattan's power. The accident erased him from existence, but he [[{{IGotBetter}} came back]] with godlike ***like powers. Then again, he's gradually detaching from the rest of humanity...
* BrokenAce: Came back from wherever he was withgod-like ***-like powers and becomes the most powerful and popular man in the world. [[CameBackWrong But he doesn't care about people anymore]].
* BrokenAce: Came back from wherever he was with
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these characters are not chaotic at all
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* AspergerSyndrome: Like Rorsach, shows many signs of it and the WMG has a very detailed bit about Osterman before his transformation.
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* [[spoiler: WhoShotJFK: He's also implicated to be behind Woodward and Bernstein's deaths (which didn't happen in our timeline), although this is much more speculative. In the movie, the assassination is shown outright, and The Comedian also remarks spoiler:while he's violently dealing with an angry mob: "I haven't had this much fun since Woodward and Bernstein!"]]
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* [[spoiler: WhoShotJFK: He's also implicated to be behind Woodward and Bernstein's deaths (which didn't happen in our timeline), although this is much more speculative. In the movie, the assassination is shown outright, and The Comedian also remarks spoiler:while while he's violently dealing with an angry mob: "I haven't had this much fun since Woodward and Bernstein!"]]
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* Main/BrokenAce: [[spoiler: He is a young, blonde supergenius who is insanely rich, pretty much has America in his hands and defeats Rorshach, Silk Spectre, Nite Owl and Dr Manhattan at the end. He is also the antagonist, and portrayed as deludedly idealistic to believe that his plan will work.]]
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* Main/BrokenAce: [[spoiler:BrokenAce]]: [[spoiler: He is a young, blonde supergenius who is insanely rich, pretty much has America in his hands and defeats Rorshach, Silk Spectre, Nite Owl and Dr Manhattan at the end. He is also the antagonist, and portrayed as deludedly idealistic to believe that his plan will work.]]
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* MagnificentBastard: [[spoiler:MagnificentBastard: Especially after TheReveal.]]
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* BigBad[[spoiler:/BigGood: Ozymandias]].
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* StoryBreakerPower: Doctor Manhattan. Because the above resulted in "God".StoryBreakerPower
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* FriendToAllChildren: Well, ''friend'' is stretching it to breaking point, but it matters to him that children aren't hurt.
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The only truly superpowered character in the story, due to a FreakLabAccident, Jon Osterman gained godlike powers and blue skin. He's used his powers to revolutionise the world, provide energy for electric cars and blimps, and continues to work on amazing new technology... but just doesn't seem to care about anything any more, or do anything unless he's told to.
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The only truly superpowered character in the story, due to a FreakLabAccident, Jon Osterman gained godlike powers and blue skin. He's used his powers to revolutionise revolutionize the world, provide energy for electric cars and blimps, and continues to work on amazing new technology... but just doesn't seem to care about anything any more, or do anything unless he's told to.
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* RuleThirtyFour: Sally has an unlicenced porno comic ''of herself'' among her memorabilia, making this trope Older Than The Internet.
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* RuleThirtyFour: Sally has an unlicenced unlicensed porno comic ''of herself'' among her memorabilia, making this trope Older Than The Internet.
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** He's not completely devoid of compassion or empathy, but he has a tendency to miss a lot of social cues.
*** People with Aspberger's Syndrome are [[UnfortunateImplications not devoid of compassion or empathy either]].
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*** People with Aspberger's Syndrome are [[UnfortunateImplications not devoid of compassion or empathy either]].cues.
*** People with Aspberger's Syndrome are [[UnfortunateImplications not devoid of compassion or empathy either]].
* BeCarefulWhatYouWishFor: His quote above. He feels the complete opposite when New York is destroyed.
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** Possible subversion - see BecomingTheMask above.perhaps [[spoiler: he had conceptualized Rorshach as some kind of force of justice and only allowed Walter Kovacs to be the one who really died]].
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* Main/HarsherInHindsight: His quote above. He feels the complete opposite when New York is destroyed.
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* AllOfTheOtherReindeer : Some bullies show this to Rorshach and he goes berserk on them.
*{{Asexual}}: He also seems to have active Oedipal hang-ups, however.
** To say he's asexual is at best debatable. He says that putting on his mask lets him be free of "fear or weakness or lust"; this along with his general fixation with sex would make it seem more likely that he does have sexual desires, but is so disgusted with sexuality that he thinks himself above it and represses it as best he can. Anyway, the asexuality theory is probably completely discounted by the creepy wet-dream/nightmare he had about his mom when he was a kid.
--> "I had feelings when I woke up. Dirty feelings, thoughts and stuff. The dream, it sort of upset me, physically. I couldn't help it. I feel bad just talking about it."
*AspergerSyndrome: Rorschach shows a number of symptoms of this condition in some of his dealings with others:
** He's not completely devoid of compassion or empathy, but he has a tendency to miss a lot of social cues.
*** People with Aspberger's Syndrome are [[UnfortunateImplications not devoid of compassion or empathy either]].
** His awkward behavior around people is often offensive to them and nearly always makes them uneasy.
** He also speaks much the same way he writes--in clipped sentences--with an annoying nasal accent, although this may be due to his prolonged social isolation more than his mental condition.
*** In the 1960s flashback in issue 2 he still speaks in normal sentences and with a normal voice.
*** It's also likely he is purposefully or subconsciously modifying his voice as he speaks differently out of costume.
**** Although that changes after his arrest - probably he becomes completely Rorschach, mask or no, at that point.
** To say he's asexual is at best debatable. He says that putting on his mask lets him be free of "fear or weakness or lust"; this along with his general fixation with sex would make it seem more likely that he does have sexual desires, but is so disgusted with sexuality that he thinks himself above it and represses it as best he can. Anyway, the asexuality theory is probably completely discounted by the creepy wet-dream/nightmare he had about his mom when he was a kid.
--> "I had feelings when I woke up. Dirty feelings, thoughts and stuff. The dream, it sort of upset me, physically. I couldn't help it. I feel bad just talking about it."
*AspergerSyndrome: Rorschach shows a number of symptoms of this condition in some of his dealings with others:
** He's not completely devoid of compassion or empathy, but he has a tendency to miss a lot of social cues.
*** People with Aspberger's Syndrome are [[UnfortunateImplications not devoid of compassion or empathy either]].
** His awkward behavior around people is often offensive to them and nearly always makes them uneasy.
** He also speaks much the same way he writes--in clipped sentences--with an annoying nasal accent, although this may be due to his prolonged social isolation more than his mental condition.
*** In the 1960s flashback in issue 2 he still speaks in normal sentences and with a normal voice.
*** It's also likely he is purposefully or subconsciously modifying his voice as he speaks differently out of costume.
**** Although that changes after his arrest - probably he becomes completely Rorschach, mask or no, at that point.
* BerserkButton: The same as Batman's: [[spoiler:don't ever harm a child]]. This was a one-way Berserk Button for ole Rorschach.
** Also Rorschach's one limit. He won't punish his landlady for (falsely) telling the news he slept with her, because her kids are with her.
*** Also, perhaps, because he saw himself in her son. And unlike ''his'' mother, she was holding her kids like she loved them.
** Also Rorschach's one limit. He won't punish his landlady for (falsely) telling the news he slept with her, because her kids are with her.
*** Also, perhaps, because he saw himself in her son. And unlike ''his'' mother, she was holding her kids like she loved them.
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* Main/CelibateHero BullyingADragon: See the reindeer entry.
* TheCanKickedHim: Rorschach uses a toilet to kill a goon. In depth: the goon came at Rorschach with a poorly-insulated arc welder. Rorschach smashes his prison toilet to flood the cell with water and fry the bastard. Which he immediately Lampshades:
--> Rorshach: "Hrm. Never disposed of sewage with toilet before. Obvious, really."
** And in [[Film/{{Watchmen}} the film]], a saw with a frayed cable is used to similar effect.
** It's heavily implied that he does it again later, [[spoiler: drowning the Big Figure in a toilet.]]
* Main/CelibateHero: He'smessed up beyond all recognition about anything to do with sex, due to child abuse. ([[MisaimedFandom Just don't tell the]] [[YaoiFangirl fangirls]].)
** Interestingly, Rorschach does hint in his diary that he might not be completely devoid of normal sexual desires: he hints that he's holding out for "American love" (as opposed to "Swedish love" and "French love") but "they don't make it anymore." Maybe his standards are just too impossibly high for anyone to meet.
*** He does seem to have something of a Madonna-Whore Complex, and, given that he's, well, ''him'', tying it to nationalism doesn't seem a massive leap.
** Saying he "was offered Swedish love and French love but not American love" doesn't really imply he was looking for the latter; it was presumably an observation of the hookers' nationalities.
*** This may just be my dirty mind, but "Swedish love" and "French love" seemed to suggest techniques or "styles", rather than particular nationalities; few French or Swedish women head to New York to become prostitutes, after all, they can do it at home for the same money. It seems to imply that these forms of "foreign" love are decadent and impure- the "Whore" side of the complex- in contrast to the implicit all-American Maddonna.
* TheCanKickedHim: Rorschach uses a toilet to kill a goon. In depth: the goon came at Rorschach with a poorly-insulated arc welder. Rorschach smashes his prison toilet to flood the cell with water and fry the bastard. Which he immediately Lampshades:
--> Rorshach: "Hrm. Never disposed of sewage with toilet before. Obvious, really."
** And in [[Film/{{Watchmen}} the film]], a saw with a frayed cable is used to similar effect.
** It's heavily implied that he does it again later, [[spoiler: drowning the Big Figure in a toilet.]]
* Main/CelibateHero: He'smessed up beyond all recognition about anything to do with sex, due to child abuse. ([[MisaimedFandom Just don't tell the]] [[YaoiFangirl fangirls]].)
** Interestingly, Rorschach does hint in his diary that he might not be completely devoid of normal sexual desires: he hints that he's holding out for "American love" (as opposed to "Swedish love" and "French love") but "they don't make it anymore." Maybe his standards are just too impossibly high for anyone to meet.
*** He does seem to have something of a Madonna-Whore Complex, and, given that he's, well, ''him'', tying it to nationalism doesn't seem a massive leap.
** Saying he "was offered Swedish love and French love but not American love" doesn't really imply he was looking for the latter; it was presumably an observation of the hookers' nationalities.
*** This may just be my dirty mind, but "Swedish love" and "French love" seemed to suggest techniques or "styles", rather than particular nationalities; few French or Swedish women head to New York to become prostitutes, after all, they can do it at home for the same money. It seems to imply that these forms of "foreign" love are decadent and impure- the "Whore" side of the complex- in contrast to the implicit all-American Maddonna.
* ConspiracyTheorist
* DoesNotLikeWomen: Rorschach, from his poor experiences with his mother.
** Not necessarily. It's more of the fact he's very shy around women, generally.
*** Shy? When was the last time you called a girl a whore to her face when you felt shy around her?
** Not necessarily. It's more of the fact he's very shy around women, generally.
*** Shy? When was the last time you called a girl a whore to her face when you felt shy around her?
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** Possible subversion - see BecomingTheMask above.
* Main/EnsembleDarkhorse: [[MisaimedFandom much to the disgust]] [[CreatorBacklash of the author]].
** Possible subversion - see BecomingTheMask above.
* Main/EnsembleDarkhorse: [[MisaimedFandom much to the disgust]] [[CreatorBacklash of the author]].
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* EyeScream: Rorschach shoving a burning cigarette into some kid's eye in his backstory.
* Main/GrapplingHookPistol: One of Rorschach's signature tools, [[spoiler:until the police take it away after his arrest]]. It gets turned into an ImprovisedWeapon at one point.
* EyeScream: Rorschach shoving a burning cigarette into some kid's eye in his backstory.
* Main/GrapplingHookPistol: One of Rorschach's signature tools, [[spoiler:until the police take it away after his arrest]]. It gets turned into an ImprovisedWeapon at one point.
* HypocriticalHumor:
-->'''[[HeroicSociopath Rorschach]]''': Why are so few of us left active, healthy, and without personality disorders?
** I think Rorschach was merely observing and admitted he himself was a bit loony.
-->'''[[HeroicSociopath Rorschach]]''': Why are so few of us left active, healthy, and without personality disorders?
** I think Rorschach was merely observing and admitted he himself was a bit loony.
* LittleNo: What Rorschach fantasizes about doing when the world eventually destroys itself, as seen in the page quote.
* MemeticMutation: "'''RRAAAARRL'''" and "Hurm."
* MemeticMutation: "'''RRAAAARRL'''" and "Hurm."
*NiceHat: In the movie, he keeps picking it up even when Ozy keeps kicking his ass.
*OminousWalk
* PrinciplesZealot
*TragicHero
* CrazyPrepared: When Laurie frets that the cops have figured out Dan is Nite-Owl, he nonchalantly mentions that he had set up back-up identities ''years'' ago, just in case.
** Dan is like the poster boy for the SilverAge. The amount of equipment he had built for himself is just plain silly. His ship, build for fighting urban crime, has a fog generator, flame thrower and air to freaking air missiles. He also had a different Nite-Owl suit for pretty much every environ you could possibly imagine. He even has a Snow-Owl suit for crime fighting in extreme cold. [[ChekhovsGun Why the Hell would you need one of those?]]
*** There's at least one Batman episode with a white batsuit, presumably to keep out the cold and act as camouflage.
*DoggedNiceGuy
** Dan is like the poster boy for the SilverAge. The amount of equipment he had built for himself is just plain silly. His ship, build for fighting urban crime, has a fog generator, flame thrower and air to freaking air missiles. He also had a different Nite-Owl suit for pretty much every environ you could possibly imagine. He even has a Snow-Owl suit for crime fighting in extreme cold. [[ChekhovsGun Why the Hell would you need one of those?]]
*** There's at least one Batman episode with a white batsuit, presumably to keep out the cold and act as camouflage.
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* Main/GlasgowGrin: Half of one, courtesy of his upset [[AsianBabymama Vietnamese girlfriend]]. girlfriend]].
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* JerkAss: [[spoiler: This may be intentional though.]]
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* [[spoiler: WhoShotJFK: He's also implicated to be behind Woodward and Bernstein's deaths (which didn't happen in our timeline), although this is much more speculative. In the movie, the assassination is shown outright, and The Comedian also remarks spoiler:while he's violently dealing with an angry mob: "I haven't had this much fun since Woodward and Bernstein!"]]
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* Main/BrokenAceMain/BrokenAce: [[spoiler: He is a young, blonde supergenius who is insanely rich, pretty much has America in his hands and defeats Rorshach, Silk Spectre, Nite Owl and Dr Manhattan at the end. He is also the antagonist, and portrayed as deludedly idealistic to believe that his plan will work.]]
* BulletCatch: [[spoiler: Like they'd really let Silk Spectre kill him after all that.]]
* BulletCatch: [[spoiler: Like they'd really let Silk Spectre kill him after all that.]]
* TheChessmaster
* ContemplativeBoss
* CorruptCorporateExecutive: Apparently averted. [[spoiler: Adrian Veidt seems like a good guy with the unfortunate image of a rich corporate sellout... at ''first'']].
** Definitely averted. Adrian really isn't motivated by greed or a lust for personal power. [[spoiler: He's a {{Knight Templar}} or {{Well Intentioned Extremist}}, but not a sellout.]]
*** Played straight with the oil tycoons who try to make Adrian give up on clean electricity after [[spoiler: Dr. Manhattan's disappearance]] in TheMovie.
* ContemplativeBoss
* CorruptCorporateExecutive: Apparently averted. [[spoiler: Adrian Veidt seems like a good guy with the unfortunate image of a rich corporate sellout... at ''first'']].
** Definitely averted. Adrian really isn't motivated by greed or a lust for personal power. [[spoiler: He's a {{Knight Templar}} or {{Well Intentioned Extremist}}, but not a sellout.]]
*** Played straight with the oil tycoons who try to make Adrian give up on clean electricity after [[spoiler: Dr. Manhattan's disappearance]] in TheMovie.
*DarkMessiah
* GenghisGambit
* InternalRetcon: [[spoiler:the only way Ozymandias' plan can work.]]
* JustBetweenYouAndMe: Justified. [[spoiler:He did it 35 minutes ago.]]
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* JustBetweenYouAndMe: Justified. [[spoiler:He did it 35 minutes ago.]]
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* [[spoiler: YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness: Ozymandias poisons his assistants, and congratulates them for helping create a new utopia (as they are either dead or dying), then lets their bodies be hidden by snowcover. He also blows up the artists who helped crete the monster]]
* [[spoiler:Main/VillainWithGoodPublicity / VisionaryVillain]]
* [[spoiler: YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness: Ozymandias poisons his assistants, and congratulates them for helping create a new utopia (as they are either dead or dying), then lets their bodies be hidden by snowcover. He also blows up the artists who helped crete the monster]]
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*AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence: [[spoiler: Leaves the galaxy to create life somewhere else, effectively fitting the definition of God.]]
* BigBad[[spoiler:/BigGood: Ozymandias]].
* BlessedWithSuck / CursedWithAwesome: Manhattan's power. The accident erased him from existence, but he [[{{IGotBetter}} came back]] with godlike powers. Then again, he's gradually detaching from the rest of humanity...
* BigBad[[spoiler:/BigGood: Ozymandias]].
* BlessedWithSuck / CursedWithAwesome: Manhattan's power. The accident erased him from existence, but he [[{{IGotBetter}} came back]] with godlike powers. Then again, he's gradually detaching from the rest of humanity...
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* PrescienceIsPredictable: Dr. Manhattan describes himself as "a puppet who can see the strings." Since he literally views all time simultaneously, he can't change the future because, to him, it's already happening. This causes him to stop caring what happens and just go with the flow. When [[spoiler: a tachyon storm disrupts his ability to tell the future]], he becomes ''excited'', saying he had forgotten the joy of uncertainty.
* PrescienceIsPredictable: Dr. Manhattan describes himself as "a puppet who can see the strings." Since he literally views all time simultaneously, he can't change the future because, to him, it's already happening. This causes him to stop caring what happens and just go with the flow. When [[spoiler: a tachyon storm disrupts his ability to tell the future]], he becomes ''excited'', saying he had forgotten the joy of uncertainty.
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*StoryBreakerPower: Doctor Manhattan. Because the above resulted in "God".
** [[spoiler:Ironically, it doesn't do much. Even when Dr. Manhattan is vaporized and comes back.]]
*StoryBreakerPower: Doctor Manhattan. Because the above resulted in "God".
** [[spoiler:Ironically, it doesn't do much. Even when Dr. Manhattan is vaporized and comes back.]]
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*WalkOnWater
* YouCannotChangeTheFuture: Dr. Manhattan exists in a multidimensional quantum solid state, and quickly tires of listening to his friends talk about what "could have happened" or what "should happen", since he already sees his entire time-stream. For him, the only difference between past and future is directional causality.
--> '''Dr. Manhattan:''' Miracles by definition are meaningless. Only what can happen does happen.
--> '''Dr. Manhattan:''' ([[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment repeating himself twice]]) Excuse me Rorschach. I'm informing Laurie 45 seconds ago.
*WalkOnWater
* YouCannotChangeTheFuture: Dr. Manhattan exists in a multidimensional quantum solid state, and quickly tires of listening to his friends talk about what "could have happened" or what "should happen", since he already sees his entire time-stream. For him, the only difference between past and future is directional causality.
--> '''Dr. Manhattan:''' Miracles by definition are meaningless. Only what can happen does happen.
--> '''Dr. Manhattan:''' ([[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment repeating himself twice]]) Excuse me Rorschach. I'm informing Laurie 45 seconds ago.
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* DangerousGenreSavvy: DangerouslyGenreSavvy: [[spoiler: "Do you seriously think I'd explain my master-stroke if there remained the slightest chance of you affecting its outcome? I did it thirty-five minutes ago."]]
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*BrokenAce: Came back from wherever he was with god-like powers and becomes the most powerful and popular man in the world. [[CameBackWrong But he doesn't care about people anymore]].
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-->Rorschach: Used to come here often, back when we were partners.
-->Dreiberg: Oh. Uh, yeah... yeah, those were great times, Rorschach. Great times. Whatever happened to them?
-->Rorschach: [exiting] You quit.
-->Dreiberg: Oh. Uh, yeah... yeah, those were great times, Rorschach. Great times. Whatever happened to them?
-->Rorschach: [exiting] You quit.
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-->''I DID IT!'' [[spoiler: after he destroyed New York to stop a nuclear war]]
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-->''"I don't know anybody! I don't know anyone except goddamned superheroes!''"
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* AntiHero: Type I
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* NeutralGood
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* AntiHero: Type II
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* ChaoticGood