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* {{Expy}} The following attributes of Jesus: Born to a virgin mother on December 25th, Was the son of God, Was visited my wise men from the East upon his birth, Turned water into wine, Healed the sick, Had magical powers, Rode a donkey, Was betrayed for 30 pieces of silver, Was commemorated with offerings of bread and wine, Died by being nailed to a wooden structure and finally Was resurrected after three days are present in various earlier deities including Orisis, Horus, Mithras, Baal, Bacchus and Isis
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* {{Expy}} The following Some attributes of Jesus: Born to a virgin mother on December 25th, Was the son of God, Was visited my wise men from the East upon his birth, Turned water into wine, Healed the sick, Had magical powers, Rode a donkey, Was betrayed for 30 pieces of silver, Was commemorated with offerings of bread and wine, Died by being nailed to a wooden structure and finally Was resurrected after three days Jesus are present in various earlier deities including Orisis, Horus, Mithras, Baal, Bacchus and IsisIsis. These attributes include being born to a virgin mother on December 25th, being the son of God, being visited my wise men from the East upon his birth, turning water into wine, healing the sick, magical powers, riding a donkey, being betrayed for 30 pieces of silver, being commemorated with offerings of bread and wine, dying by being nailed to a wooden structure and finally being resurrected after three days.
** It's worth noting that this observation is not exclusive to Jesus' detractors. Biblical scholars have theorized that the similarities were [[InvokedTrope intentional on God's part,]] showing that Jesus could [[OurGodsAreGreater accomplish anything they claimed to do and more.]]
*** In addition, most of these attributes (virgin birth, being son of God, supernatural powers, healing, etc.) are common to many religious traditions, including those which had no contact with the Middle East or the Mediterranean. Others are widely-known aspects of local culture, such as royalty riding donkeys and crucifixion.
** The "born on December 25th" bit [[{{Fanon}} isn't actually in the Bible.]] Jesus was actually born sometime around late September. There are myriad reasons put forward as to why December 25th was chosen as the date for Christmas, the most likely of which was to invoke the WeirdAlEffect to supersede existing pagan holidays. The other explanations, such as being nine months after the Annucation or six months after the birth of John the Baptist (the dates of both of which are also theoretical), are likely [[RetCon retcons.]]
** It's worth noting that this observation is not exclusive to Jesus' detractors. Biblical scholars have theorized that the similarities were [[InvokedTrope intentional on God's part,]] showing that Jesus could [[OurGodsAreGreater accomplish anything they claimed to do and more.]]
*** In addition, most of these attributes (virgin birth, being son of God, supernatural powers, healing, etc.) are common to many religious traditions, including those which had no contact with the Middle East or the Mediterranean. Others are widely-known aspects of local culture, such as royalty riding donkeys and crucifixion.
** The "born on December 25th" bit [[{{Fanon}} isn't actually in the Bible.]] Jesus was actually born sometime around late September. There are myriad reasons put forward as to why December 25th was chosen as the date for Christmas, the most likely of which was to invoke the WeirdAlEffect to supersede existing pagan holidays. The other explanations, such as being nine months after the Annucation or six months after the birth of John the Baptist (the dates of both of which are also theoretical), are likely [[RetCon retcons.]]
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* WorldOfSilence: [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation The LDS view of his motives]].
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* OurDragonsAreDifferent: Takes the form of a red, seven headed one in Revelations. If he shape shifted or if he is locked in that form is not specified, may not even be literal (Revelations is [[MindScrew strange]]).
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* OurDragonsAreDifferent: Takes the form of a red, seven headed one in Revelations. Revelation. If he shape shifted or if he is locked in that form is not specified, may not even be literal (Revelations (Revelation is [[MindScrew strange]]).
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[[WMG: John from the Book of Revelations]]
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[[WMG: John from the Book of Revelations]]Revelation]]
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* {{Bishoujo}} / HotMom
* ManInWhite: Usually.
* OneSteveLimit
* OneSteveLimit
* EtTuBrute
** HeelRealization
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* MyGodWhatHaveIDone
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* Determinator: See his entry in the Bible's AwesomeMoments page.
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* Determinator: {{Determinator}}: See his entry in the Bible's AwesomeMoments page.
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* {{Expy}} The following attributes of Jesus: Born to a virgin mother on December 25th, Was the son of God, Was visited my wise men from the East upon his birth, Turned water into wine, Healed the sick, Had magical powers, Rode a donkey, Was betrayed for 30 pieces of silver, Was commemorated with offerings of bread and wine, Died by being nailed to a wooden structure and finally Was resurrected after three days are present in various earlier deities including Orisis, Horus, Mithras, Baal, Bacchus and Isis
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* GoodIsNotNice: The way many people see Him, even if He showed mercy in addition to His atrocities in the Bible.
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* GoodIsNotNice: The way many people see Him, even if Him. He showed ''did'' show mercy in addition to His atrocities in the Bible.as well as atrocity, so which side of GoodIsNotNice or just GodIsEvil you fall on depends on whether or not you, personally, feel they balance out or which way it leans, so YourMilageMayVary.
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* BerserkButton: Don't turn His father's house into a marketplace. ''EVER.''
** Don't be a non-fruit-bearing fig tree either.
*** Hey, that tree was asking for it! It had leaves but not fruit. Fig trees always bear fruit and leaves at the same time, so the tree was lying to Him.
** Don't be a non-fruit-bearing fig tree either.
*** Hey, that tree was asking for it! It had leaves but not fruit. Fig trees always bear fruit and leaves at the same time, so the tree was lying to Him.
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* BerserkButton: Don't turn His father's house into a marketplace. ''EVER.''
**'' Don't be a non-fruit-bearing fig tree either.
*** Hey, that tree was asking for it! It had leaves but not fruit. Fig trees always bear fruit and leaves at the same time, so the tree was lying to Him.either.
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*** Hey, that tree was asking for it! It had leaves but not fruit. Fig trees always bear fruit and leaves at the same time, so the tree was lying to Him.
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* TheHero: Of the New Testament.
** More exactly, a GuileHero who pwned people with smarts rather than violence.
** More exactly, a GuileHero who pwned people with smarts rather than violence.
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* TheHero: Of the New Testament.
** More exactly,Testament. Specifically, a GuileHero who pwned people with smarts rather than violence.
** More exactly,
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* LightIsGood: Or [[LightIsNotGood maybe not so much]] considering the already mentioned evidence on the contrary.
** Arguably, He could also be {{Good Is Not Nice}}.
** Arguably, He could also be {{Good Is Not Nice}}.
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* LightIsGood: Or [[LightIsNotGood maybe not so much]] considering the already mentioned evidence on the contrary.
** Arguably,contrary. He could also be considered {{Good Is Not Nice}}.
** Arguably,
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: The Gnostic gospel named for him portrays Judas as simply acting on Jesus's instructions.
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* FaceHeelTurn: His betrayal, obviously. [[ItWasHisSled Doesn't need to be marked as a spoiler?]]
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* FaceHeelTurn: His betrayal, obviously. [[ItWasHisSled Doesn't need to be marked as a spoiler?]]
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* TheAtoner: When he had an epiphany on the road after witnessing Stephen's stoning, which inspired him to change his name to Paul.
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* TheAtoner: When he had an epiphany on the road after witnessing Stephen's stoning, which inspired him to change his name to Paul.spread Christ's teachings.
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* Determinator: See his entry in the Bible's CMoA page.
* OffWithHisHead: Being a Roman citizen, he had right to die in a way seen as dignified instead of the very humiliating crucifixion.
** DyingMomentOfAwesome: He was about to be crucified, but then he told his would-be executers: 'hey, I'm a Roman. Kill me if you want, but I've my right to tell you ''how'' I will die.' That takes quite the balls.
* OffWithHisHead: Being a Roman citizen, he had right to die in a way seen as dignified instead of the very humiliating crucifixion.
** DyingMomentOfAwesome: He was about to be crucified, but then he told his would-be executers: 'hey, I'm a Roman. Kill me if you want, but I've my right to tell you ''how'' I will die.' That takes quite the balls.
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* Determinator: See his entry in the Bible's CMoA AwesomeMoments page.
* OffWithHisHead: Being a Roman citizen, he had the right to die in a way seen as dignified instead of the very humiliating crucifixion.
** DyingMomentOfAwesome: He was about to be crucified, but then he told his would-be executers:'hey, 'Hey, I'm a Roman. Kill me if you want, but I've my right to tell you ''how'' I will die.' That takes quite the balls.
* OffWithHisHead: Being a Roman citizen, he had the right to die in a way seen as dignified instead of the very humiliating crucifixion.
** DyingMomentOfAwesome: He was about to be crucified, but then he told his would-be executers:
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* ParentalFavoritism: Jacob was [[strike: Abraham's]] Rebecca's favorite, and later Jacob preferred his (second) youngest son, Joseph. Noticing a pattern here?
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* ParentalFavoritism: Jacob was [[strike: Abraham's]] Rebecca's favorite, and later Jacob preferred his (second) youngest son, Joseph. Noticing a pattern here?
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* DethroningMomentOfSuck: Literally breaking the original Ten Commandments.
** Alternatively, when he smacked a rock rather than lightly tapping it to prompt a miracle spring of water emerging, making it look like it was ''his'' doing rather than God's. So dethroning, he was forbidden to enter the Holy Land, and instead died alone on a mountaintop just over the border as the rest of the Jewish people entered.
*** At least his people got to the Promised Land.
** Alternatively, when he smacked a rock rather than lightly tapping it to prompt a miracle spring of water emerging, making it look like it was ''his'' doing rather than God's. So dethroning, he was forbidden to enter the Holy Land, and instead died alone on a mountaintop just over the border as the rest of the Jewish people entered.
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* DethroningMomentOfSuck: Literally breaking Breaking the original tablets of the Ten Commandments.
** Alternatively, when he smacked a rock rather than lightly tapping it to prompt a miracle spring of water emerging, making it look like it was ''his'' doing rather than God's. Sodethroning, he was forbidden to enter the Holy Land, and instead died alone on a mountaintop just over the border as the rest of the Jewish people entered.
*** At least his people got to the Promised Land.entered.
** Alternatively, when he smacked a rock rather than lightly tapping it to prompt a miracle spring of water emerging, making it look like it was ''his'' doing rather than God's. So
*** At least his people got to the Promised Land.
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* TheAtoner: Arguably, in many passages within the Psalms.
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* TheAtoner: Arguably, in Fasts and prays following God's judgement on him for his [[YourCheatingHeart adultery]] and subsequent [[TheUriahGambit Uriah Gambit]] to cover it up; as a result, his life and kingdom are spared but he and Bathsheba lose their first, newborn child and the rest of David's family life is [[{{Understatement}} troubled]]. Also many passages within the Psalms.Psalms attributed to him.
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* KickTheDog: See UriahGambit.
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* KickTheDog: See UriahGambit.TheUriahGambit.
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* UriahGambit: TropeMaker
* WarriorPoet: Kicks ass, writes poems, dances with his people-
* WhatTheHellHero: After the above incident with Uriah, Nathan explicitly call him on this. He repents, but it's too late.
* WarriorPoet: Kicks ass, writes poems, dances with his people-
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* UriahGambit: TheUriahGambit: TropeMaker
* WarriorPoet: Kicks ass, writes poems, dances with hispeople-
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* WhatTheHellHero: After the above incident with Uriah, Nathan explicitly call him on this. He repents, but it's toolate.
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* CurbStompBattle: Yeah......
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* ChickMagnet: He had [[BeyondTheImpossible seven hundred wives & three hundred mistresses.]], which is more than anyone else in the bible.
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* ChickMagnet: He had [[BeyondTheImpossible seven hundred wives & and three hundred mistresses.]], concubines]], which is more than anyone else in the bible.
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* SmiteMeOhMightySmiter: The Satan tried to invoke this reaction: [[spoiler:It didn't work]]
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* SmiteMeOhMightySmiter: The Satan tried to invoke this reaction: reaction, and his own wife suggested it so he could be put out of his misery. [[spoiler:It didn't work]]work.]]
* WithFriendsLikeThese: Job's visitors keep insisting that he must have done something to deserve all his suffering, and turn on him when he denies it. In the end, God is far angrier with them than with Job, but pardons them when Job, despite everything, [[HeartwarmingMoments brings an offering on their behalf]].
* WithFriendsLikeThese: Job's visitors keep insisting that he must have done something to deserve all his suffering, and turn on him when he denies it. In the end, God is far angrier with them than with Job, but pardons them when Job, despite everything, [[HeartwarmingMoments brings an offering on their behalf]].
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* AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence: He went to heaven in a fiery chariot, rather than die. When he ascended, his robes/coat fell onto his apprentice/friend/padawan Elisha, thus inventing the phrase "Taking up The Mantle of The Prophet". Many still leave a seat open for him at feasts, because they believe that he will come back. In fact, the last verse of the old testament refers to Elijah coming back and doing something special.
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* AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence: He went to heaven in a fiery chariot, rather than die. When he ascended, his robes/coat fell onto his apprentice/friend/padawan Elisha, thus inventing the phrase "Taking up The Mantle of The Prophet". Many still leave a seat open for him at feasts, because they believe that he will come back. In fact, the last verse of the old testament Old Testament refers to Elijah coming back and doing something special.to announce the Day of the Lord.
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** [[{{CrowningMomentOfFunny}} Out-miracling 450 priests of Baal of them by lighting a pyre (that he had spent all day soaking in water by their request) on fire while they couldn't light a single stick while taunting them and joking that their god is going taking a pee/shower, sleeping, or just doesn't care about them]]. He then [[KillItWithFire kills all 450 prophets single-handed. Oh [[Italics: Burn]]]]
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** [[{{CrowningMomentOfFunny}} Out-miracling 450 priests of Baal of them by lighting a pyre (that he had spent all day soaking in water by their request) on fire while they couldn't light a single stick while taunting them and joking that their god is going taking a pee/shower, sleeping, or just doesn't care about them]]. He then [[KillItWithFire kills all 450 prophets single-handed. Oh [[Italics: Burn]]]]Burn]]]].
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** Elijah is on the receiving end of one when God shows up, not in anything spectacular or amazing, but in a still, small, voice, to tell him "YouAreNotAlone".
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** Elijah is on the receiving end of one when God shows up, not in anything spectacular or amazing, but in a still, small, small voice, to tell him "YouAreNotAlone".
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* TooCoolToLive: His *death*, because he was also Too Cool To Die.
* YouAreNotAlone: God showed up, not in a maelstrom of fire, not in a howling wind/hurrricane, but in a still, small, voice to tell Elijah this.
* YouAreNotAlone: God showed up, not in a maelstrom of fire, not in a howling wind/hurrricane, but in a still, small, voice to tell Elijah this.
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* TooCoolToLive: His *death*, death, because he was also Too Cool To Die.
* YouAreNotAlone: God showed up, not in a maelstrom of fire, not in a howling wind/hurrricane, but in a still,small, small voice to tell Elijah this.
* YouAreNotAlone: God showed up, not in a maelstrom of fire, not in a howling wind/hurrricane, but in a still,
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* {{Guile Hero}}ine: Used her wits and good looks to save the Jews from the Assyrians.
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* {{Guile Hero}}ine: Used her wits and good looks to save the Jews from the Assyrians.Haman.
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* GoMadFromTheRevelation: He may have been a godly man, but he was completely and totally insane.
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* HumanSacrifice: Abraham was almost sacrificed, but escaped. Later, he almost sacrificed Isaac, but just barely didn't.
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* HumanSacrifice: Abraham was almost sacrificed, sacrificed (according to a Midrash), but escaped. Later, he almost sacrificed Isaac, but just barely didn't.
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* ParentalFavoritism: Abraham preferred him over his older brother, Ishmael. Didn't stop him from almost sacrificing Isaac. Later, Isaac prefers Jacob over his older brother Esau, giving him the blessing meant for Esau. Jacob later prefers his son Joseph.
** Actually, Isaac preferred Esau. Jacob tricked him into getting the blessing. He pretended to be Esau by wearing furs (Esau was very hairy), and, since Isaac was blind, Jacob managed to fool him.
** Actually, Isaac preferred Esau. Jacob tricked him into getting the blessing. He pretended to be Esau by wearing furs (Esau was very hairy), and, since Isaac was blind, Jacob managed to fool him.
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* ParentalFavoritism: Abraham preferred him over his older brother, Ishmael. Didn't stop him from almost sacrificing Isaac. Later, Isaac prefers Jacob Esau over his older brother Esau, Jacob, but Jacob tricks him into giving him the blessing meant for Esau. Jacob later prefers his son Joseph.
** Actually, Isaac preferred Esau. Jacob tricked him into getting the blessing. He pretended to be Esau by wearing furs (Esau was very hairy), and, since Isaac was blind, Jacob managed to fool him.
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* MethuselahSyndrome and plenty of his offspring. It is not until after Exodus things start to even out.
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* PalsWithJesus, but more with his dad.
* MethuselahSyndrome
* PalsWithJesus, but more with his dad.
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* ImprobableAge: Building a boat when you're 500.
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[[spoiler:AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence]], although he may just have been [[spoiler: PutOnABus]].
[[spoiler:AscendToAHigherPlaneOfExistence]], although he may just have been [[spoiler: PutOnABus]].
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An in story example makes it this trope, not that one,
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*DependingOnTheWriter: The four gospels show different sides of Jesus based on the evangelist's target audience. Matthew showed Jesus as an Expy of Moses and [[ShownTheirWork cited a myriad of Old Testament prophecies]] to really drive the whole Messiah thing home. Mark's gospel was {{Darker And Edgier}} because his audience was persecuted Christians. Luke's gospel is {{Lighter And Softer}}, portraying a {{Nice Guy}} version of Jesus because he was targeting non-Jewish converts. John's gospel is the most mystic-like of the four and writes a {{Higher Self}} version of Jesus to emphasize His divinity.
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* TeamDad: For his Apostles
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*TeamDad: For his Apostles
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*ThePowerOfLove: One of Jesus's most remembered teachings is to love God and to love thy neighbor. Jesus emphasizes love as powerful.
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*BadassBeard
*GrowingTheBeard: Post-Pentecost, Peter becomes the new leader of Jesus's movement and gains maturity from it.
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*LivingLieDetector: One incident in Acts has a guy named Ananias attempting to commit fraud, but Peter sees right through the con. [[LaserGuidedKarma Ananias dies on the spot.]] A few hours later, Ananias's wife, Sapphira, tried to do the same and suffered the same fate.
*RedOniBlueOni: Initially, Peter was the hot blooded foil to Jesus's calm demeanor, but post-Pentecost, he got better and became Paul's foil.
*RedOniBlueOni: Initially, Peter was the hot blooded foil to Jesus's calm demeanor, but post-Pentecost, he got better and became Paul's foil.
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*TheSmartGuy: [[WildMassGuessing Theological scholars]] speculate that John may have been a scholar aside from being a fisherman.
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*[[SpellMyNameWithAnS Spell My Name Without An S]]: When he changed his name from Saul to Paul.
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*[[SpellMyNameWithAnS Spell My Name Without An S]]: When he changed his name from Saul is Paul's Hebrew name. Due to having dual citizenship (Jewish and Greco-Roman), Saul/Paul has two names. Since Paul is mostly shown in Greco-Roman territory, he goes by Paul.
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*DependingOnTheWriter: The four gospels show different sides of Jesus based on the target audience. Matthew showed Jesus as an Expy of Moses and [[ShownTheirWork cited a myriad of Old Testament prophecies]] to really drive the whole Messiah thing home. Mark's gospel was {{Darker And Edgier}} because his audience was persecuted Christians. Luke's gospel is {{Lighter And Softer}}, portraying a {{Nice Guy}} version of Jesus because he was targeting non-Jewish converts. John's gospel is the most mystic-like of the four and writes a {{Higher Self}} version of Jesus to emphasize His divinity.
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*DependingOnTheWriter: The four gospels show different sides of Jesus based on the evangelist's target audience. Matthew showed Jesus as an Expy of Moses and [[ShownTheirWork cited a myriad of Old Testament prophecies]] to really drive the whole Messiah thing home. Mark's gospel was {{Darker And Edgier}} because his audience was persecuted Christians. Luke's gospel is {{Lighter And Softer}}, portraying a {{Nice Guy}} version of Jesus because he was targeting non-Jewish converts. John's gospel is the most mystic-like of the four and writes a {{Higher Self}} version of Jesus to emphasize His divinity.
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** To explain the bookworm part: Daniel was hired to interpret the king's dreams. [[WordofGod The Book of Daniel]] also shows him to be one of the top students at the royal academy.
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*DependingOnTheWriter: The four gospels show different sides of Jesus based on the target audience. Matthew showed Jesus as an Expy of Moses and [[ShownTheirWork cited a myriad of Old Testament prophecies]] to really drive the whole Messiah thing home. Mark's gospel was {{Darker And Edgier}} because his audience was persecuted Christians. Luke's gospel is {{Lighter And Softer}}, portraying a {{Nice Guy}} version of Jesus because he was targeting non-Jewish converts. John's gospel is the most mystic-like of the four and writes a {{Higher Self}} version of Jesus to emphasize His divinity.
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**Arguably, He could also be {{Good Is Not Nice}}.
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*TheyCalledMeMad: They called me mad, but I'll show them, I'll bring two of every animal on The Ark, and lets see who's laughing when they're drowning and I'm floating! ([[EddieIzzard Except the floating ones and the swimming ones.]])
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*TheyCalledMeMad: They called me mad, but I'll show them, I'll bring two of every animal on The Ark, and [[ComedicSociopathy lets see who's laughing when they're drowning and I'm floating! floating!]] ([[EddieIzzard Except the floating ones and the swimming ones.]])
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* ValuesDissonance: These days, many reading TheBible see Him as a powerful, bipolar, smite-happy bully. Back 3000 years ago, that's probably how nomadic desert people thought Gods should be like.
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No alignment system, no alignments.
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*LawfulGood / LawfulNeutral / LawfulEvil: Describes himself as LawfulGood, [[AlternateCharacterInterpretation but]]... [[MoralDissonance yeah]].
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** It may possibly be a case of FridgeBrilliance; seraphim (the kind of angel Satan is) are described as somewhat dragon like...
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*BlindIdiotTranslation: The translation directed by King James the 1st of England confuses him with Jesus at a few points.
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*WaifProphet (started as one, when he was a child)
* WarriorPoet: Kicks ass, writes poems, dances with his people-
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*TheSmartGuy There was a reason why he was consulted for miles around for answers to problems.
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**Elijah is on the receiving end of one when God shows up, not in anything spectacular or amazing, but in a still, small, voice, to tell him YouAreNotAlone.
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**Elijah is on the receiving end of one when God shows up, not in anything spectacular or amazing, but in a still, small, voice, to tell him YouAreNotAlone."YouAreNotAlone".
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* DyingMomentOfAwesome: The emperor Nero ordered Paul to be crucified, thus putting himself above Paul in a power dynamic. Paul asked to be crucified upside down, thus out doing Nero.
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* DyingMomentOfAwesome: The emperor Nero ordered Paul him to be crucified, thus putting himself above Paul Peter in a power dynamic. Paul Peter asked to be crucified upside down, thus out doing Nero.
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*FaceHeelTurn: [[spoiler: His betrayal, obviously.]]
** [[ItWasHisSled Does this really need to be marked as a spoiler?]]
** [[ItWasHisSled Does this really need to be marked as a spoiler?]]
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*FaceHeelTurn: [[spoiler: His betrayal, obviously.]]
**obviously. [[ItWasHisSled Does this really Doesn't need to be marked as a spoiler?]]
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** DyingMomentOfAwesome: He was about to be crucified, but then he told his would-be executers: 'hey, I'm a Roman. Kill me if you want, but I've my right to be beheaded.' That takes quite the balls.
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** DyingMomentOfAwesome: He was about to be crucified, but then he told his would-be executers: 'hey, I'm a Roman. Kill me if you want, but I've my right to be beheaded.tell you ''how'' I will die.' That takes quite the balls.
