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* CharacterDevelopment: Lopez used to be an absurdly over-dramatic and serious robot with UndyingLoyalty towards the Reds. After he was possessed by Church for a while and he was then accidentally injured by the Reds (who still thought he was their enemy), he became a overly bitter living being. Since then, he's become a DeadpanSnarker who only really seems to hang around with the Reds and Blues because he has nothing better to do. However, Season 11 also shows that he ''does'' seem to genuinely care for them to a degree. Furthermore, the same aforementioned season displays that he's become TheFatalist, fully aware of being a CosmicPlaything but just trying to make the most of his life while he can in the process.

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* CharacterDevelopment: Lopez used to be an absurdly over-dramatic and serious robot with UndyingLoyalty towards the Reds. After he was possessed by Church for a while and he was then accidentally injured by the Reds (who still thought he was their enemy), he became a overly bitter living being. Since then, he's become a DeadpanSnarker who only really seems to hang around with the Reds and Blues because he has nothing better to do. However, Season 11 also shows that he ''does'' seem to genuinely care for them to a degree.degree, since he is disgusted at Dos.0 actually trying to ''kill them''. Furthermore, the same aforementioned season displays that he's become TheFatalist, fully aware of being a CosmicPlaything but just trying to make the most of his life while he can in the process.
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* TheHeart: As one of the few truly {{Nice Guy}}s in the series, he generally has this role among the Reds. As Grif starts to grow more into this role as the series goes on, though, Donut starts to become more of TheChick (no joke intended).

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* TheHeart: As one of the few truly {{Nice Guy}}s in the series, he generally has this role among the Reds. As Grif starts to grow more into this role as the series goes on, though, Donut starts to become more of TheChick (no joke intended).irrelevant.
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* {{Expy}}: He started off as one for [[Film/FullMetalJacket Gunnery Sergeant Hartman]], being a mean-spirited DrillSergeantNasty who took a special interest in tormenting an overweight and incompetent soldier under his command. Matt Hullum even initially voiced the character with a Creatir/RLeeErmey impression. This faded as his {{Cloudcuckoolander}} traits were increasingly exaggerated.


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* NoCelebritiesWereHarmed: Matt Hullum initially voiced Sarge with a nasally Creator/RLeeErmey impression. VovalEvolution resulted in his voice shifting into a more generic Southern accent.
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* DreamTeam: Sarge's best choices for an army. Albeit the choices are not optimal - one was an actor who only ''played'' badasses (and in fact was rejected by the U.S. Naval Academy), one was an officer instead of a combatant, and the third is clearly already succumbing to what killed him at just 32.
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* ItHasBeenAnHonor: In Season 16, [[spoiler:after Carolina causes a TimeCrash due to creating a very powerful paradox. His last words before everything dissapears into white nothing-ness is telling Grif and Simmons that it has been an honor.]]

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* ItHasBeenAnHonor: In Season 16, [[spoiler:after Carolina causes a TimeCrash due to creating a very powerful paradox. His last words before everything dissapears disappears into white nothing-ness is telling Grif and Simmons that it has been an honor.]]



* SouthernFriedPrivate: An officer example of the trope, filling all the prerequistes such as the drawl, the illogical line of thought, and liking to fight way too much.

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* SouthernFriedPrivate: An officer example of the trope, filling all the prerequistes prerequisites such as the drawl, the illogical line of thought, and liking to fight way too much.



* WeaponBasedCharacterisation: [[DrillSergeantNasty Sarge]] almost exclusively uses his [[ShortRangeShotgun shotgun]]. He's a BloodKnight who loves killing up close and personal; he also enjoys threatening violence or emphasising his moods through dramatically loading the gun. The one time Washington mimics Sarge's likely reaction to the situation they're in, he picks up a shotgun to sell the imitation.

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* WeaponBasedCharacterisation: [[DrillSergeantNasty Sarge]] almost exclusively uses his [[ShortRangeShotgun shotgun]]. He's a BloodKnight who loves killing up close and personal; he also enjoys threatening violence or emphasising emphasizing his moods through dramatically loading the gun. The one time Washington mimics Sarge's likely reaction to the situation they're in, he picks up a shotgun to sell the imitation.



Simmons forms a comic duo with Grif, though has expressed a disturbing eagerness to sacrifice his friend in an effort to gain favor with Sarge. After Lopez defectes and Grif needs an organ donor, Simmons is upgraded to a cyborg by Sarge and will occasionally answer to "Simmons 2.0."

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Simmons forms a comic duo with Grif, though has expressed a disturbing eagerness to sacrifice his friend in an effort to gain favor with Sarge. After Lopez defectes defects and Grif needs an organ donor, Simmons is upgraded to a cyborg by Sarge and will occasionally answer to "Simmons 2.0."
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* CharacterisationClickMoment: Donut doesn't really settle into his familiar characterization until he starts vehemently claiming his new pink armor is "light-red" to Grif and Simmons.

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* CharacterisationClickMoment: Donut doesn't really settle into his familiar characterization until he starts vehemently claiming his new pink armor is "light-red" "lightish-red" to Grif and Simmons.



* WeaponBasedCharacterisation: [[TheDandy Donut]] is freakisly good at throwing things and becomes increasingly associated with [[ThrowDownTheBomblet plasma grenades]] as the show progresses.

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* WeaponBasedCharacterisation: [[TheDandy Donut]] is freakisly freakishly good at throwing things and becomes increasingly associated with [[ThrowDownTheBomblet plasma grenades]] as the show progresses.
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* CharacterisationClickMoment: Donut doesn't really settle into his familiar characterization until he starts vehemently claiming his new pink armor is "lighting-red" to Grif and Simmons.

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* CharacterisationClickMoment: Donut doesn't really settle into his familiar characterization until he starts vehemently claiming his new pink armor is "lighting-red" "light-red" to Grif and Simmons.

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* DorkKnight: Especially while on Chorus. Being in charge of an AmazonBrigade was hell for a {{Nerd}} like him.

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* DorkKnight: Especially while on Chorus. Being in charge of an AmazonBrigade was hell for a {{Nerd}} nerd like him.



* IronicName: Named after Richard Simmons, a famous American fitness instructor. Simmons himself is a {{Nerd}}.
* {{Irony}}: Despite being a {{Nerd}}, [[ChickMagnet he actually gets the most attention from the opposite sex]] over the course of the series.

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* IronicName: Named after Richard Simmons, a famous American fitness instructor. Simmons himself is a {{Nerd}}.
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* {{Irony}}: Despite being a {{Nerd}}, nerd, [[ChickMagnet he actually gets the most attention from the opposite sex]] over the course of the series.



* LethallyStupid: Simmons is not immune to this. He can be considered to exhibit this just for choosing to suck up to ''[[InsaneTrollLogic Sarge]]'' of all people. Granted, being possessed by Omega seems to bring out some of his repressed anger, and make him somewhat less submissive to Sarge's incompetence. Sycophantic tendencies aside, though, he occasionally seems to genuinely believe Sarge's crackpot theories (i.e., the bomb "blowing them into the future" in Season 3), while Grif just seems to mostly go along with them in order to make things smoother. Ultimately, [[OnlySaneMan Grif]] and [[{{Nerd}} Simmons]] show that there is a pretty big difference between being smart/logical and intelligent/knowledgeable.

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* LethallyStupid: Simmons is not immune to this. He can be considered to exhibit this just for choosing to suck up to ''[[InsaneTrollLogic Sarge]]'' of all people. Granted, being possessed by Omega seems to bring out some of his repressed anger, and make him somewhat less submissive to Sarge's incompetence. Sycophantic tendencies aside, though, he occasionally seems to genuinely believe Sarge's crackpot theories (i.e., the bomb "blowing them into the future" in Season 3), while Grif just seems to mostly go along with them in order to make things smoother. Ultimately, [[OnlySaneMan Grif]] and [[{{Nerd}} Simmons]] Simmons show that there is a pretty big difference between being smart/logical and intelligent/knowledgeable.



* {{Nerd}}: He wanted to be a mathlete when he was younger, is BookSmart and knowledgable about technology and physics, and [[CannotTalkToWomen is awkward around women]].



* OOCIsSeriousBusiness: By the end of his time travel experiments in ''The Shisno Paradox'', Simmons faces an existential crisis and decides to reject science altogether. When ''[[{{Nerd}} Simmons]]'' no longer believes in science, then all logic is clearly being thrown out the window. He's positively relieved when he figures out near the end of the season that the Cosmic Powers are actually [[ClarkesThirdLaw sufficiently advanced]] [=A.I.s=], even proudly proclaiming "Science ''is'' good for something after all!"

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* OOCIsSeriousBusiness: By the end of his time travel experiments in ''The Shisno Paradox'', Simmons faces an existential crisis and decides to reject science altogether. When ''[[{{Nerd}} Simmons]]'' Simmons no longer believes in science, then all logic is clearly being thrown out the window. He's positively relieved when he figures out near the end of the season that the Cosmic Powers are actually [[ClarkesThirdLaw sufficiently advanced]] [=A.I.s=], even proudly proclaiming "Science ''is'' good for something after all!"

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Tropes pertaining to the Red Team of ''Machinima/RedVsBlue''. '''All spoilers for the first fifteen seasons will be unmarked below.'''

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Tropes pertaining to the Red Team of ''Machinima/RedVsBlue''.''WebAnimation/RedVsBlue''. '''All spoilers for the first fifteen seasons will be unmarked below.'''



* InHarmsWay: When Doc brings up that his [[Machinima/RedVsBlueTheRecollection adventures after Blood Gulch]] led to him leading his first real military operation in Episode 20 of Season 10, he decides that he'll go ahead and help take down the Director anyway due to Epsilon being a member of their TrueCompanions along with the fact that Valhalla was "getting stale anyway."

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* InHarmsWay: When Doc brings up that his [[Machinima/RedVsBlueTheRecollection [[WebAnimation/RedVsBlueTheRecollection adventures after Blood Gulch]] led to him leading his first real military operation in Episode 20 of Season 10, he decides that he'll go ahead and help take down the Director anyway due to Epsilon being a member of their TrueCompanions along with the fact that Valhalla was "getting stale anyway."



* VocalEvolution: His voice gets higher and louder each season. ''[[Machinima/RedVsBlueTheShisnoTrilogy Singularity]]'' has him undergo this in the ''opposite'' direction, his voice deepening being tied into his CharacterDevelopment and becoming the unofficial leader of the BGC against Genkins.

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* VocalEvolution: His voice gets higher and louder each season. ''[[Machinima/RedVsBlueTheShisnoTrilogy ''[[WebAnimation/RedVsBlueTheShisnoTrilogy Singularity]]'' has him undergo this in the ''opposite'' direction, his voice deepening being tied into his CharacterDevelopment and becoming the unofficial leader of the BGC against Genkins.
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* AwesomeByAnalysis[: Along with some BatDeduction. In ''Revelation'', Simmons is forced to make a radio call to Sarge without telling him that they had been kidnapped by Wash and the Meta. Despite this, Sarge manages to work out every single detail ''instantly''. His reasoning? Simmons answered 'hi' instead of 'thank you for calling Red Base, this is Private Simmons', he said the radio was in disrepair, something that Lopez would never let happen, the time was 17:30 (Donut's daily wine and cheese hour) and there was no sound of clinking glasses, he said the weather was rainier and Mt. Ranier is the largest landmass in the state of ''Washington'', and the Meta is the biggest mass associated with Washington.

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* AwesomeByAnalysis[: AwesomeByAnalysis: Along with some BatDeduction. In ''Revelation'', Simmons is forced to make a radio call to Sarge without telling him that they had been kidnapped by Wash and the Meta. Despite this, Sarge manages to work out every single detail ''instantly''. His reasoning? Simmons answered 'hi' instead of 'thank you for calling Red Base, this is Private Simmons', he said the radio was in disrepair, something that Lopez would never let happen, the time was 17:30 (Donut's daily wine and cheese hour) and there was no sound of clinking glasses, he said the weather was rainier and Mt. Ranier is the largest landmass in the state of ''Washington'', and the Meta is the biggest mass associated with Washington.
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* AwesomeByAnalysis[: Along with someBatDeduction. In ''Revelation'', Simmons is forced to make a radio call to Sarge without telling him that they had been kidnapped by Wash and the Meta. Despite this, Sarge manages to work out every single detail ''instantly''. His reasoning? Simmons answered 'hi' instead of 'thank you for calling Red Base, this is Private Simmons', he said the radio was in disrepair, something that Lopez would never let happen, the time was 17:30 (Donut's daily wine and cheese hour) and there was no sound of clinking glasses, he said the weather was rainier and Mt. Ranier is the largest landmass in the state of ''Washington'', and the Meta is the biggest mass associated with Washington.

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* AwesomeByAnalysis[: Along with someBatDeduction.some BatDeduction. In ''Revelation'', Simmons is forced to make a radio call to Sarge without telling him that they had been kidnapped by Wash and the Meta. Despite this, Sarge manages to work out every single detail ''instantly''. His reasoning? Simmons answered 'hi' instead of 'thank you for calling Red Base, this is Private Simmons', he said the radio was in disrepair, something that Lopez would never let happen, the time was 17:30 (Donut's daily wine and cheese hour) and there was no sound of clinking glasses, he said the weather was rainier and Mt. Ranier is the largest landmass in the state of ''Washington'', and the Meta is the biggest mass associated with Washington.

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* AmbiguousDisorder: Later seasons have implied that he suffers from severe PTSD, and he's always had sociopathic tendencies dating back to the first season of the show. Season 11 also has him even displaying some tendencies normally associated with senility while stuck in Crash Site Bravo.



* AwesomeByAnalysis[=/=]BatDeduction: In ''Revelation'', Simmons is forced to make a radio call to Sarge without telling him that they had been kidnapped by Wash and the Meta. Despite this, Sarge manages to work out every single detail ''instantly''. His reasoning? Simmons answered 'hi' instead of 'thank you for calling Red Base, this is Private Simmons', he said the radio was in disrepair, something that Lopez would never let happen, the time was 17:30 (Donut's daily wine and cheese hour) and there was no sound of clinking glasses, he said the weather was rainier and Mt. Ranier is the largest landmass in the state of ''Washington'', and the Meta is the biggest mass associated with Washington.

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* AwesomeByAnalysis[=/=]BatDeduction: AwesomeByAnalysis[: Along with someBatDeduction. In ''Revelation'', Simmons is forced to make a radio call to Sarge without telling him that they had been kidnapped by Wash and the Meta. Despite this, Sarge manages to work out every single detail ''instantly''. His reasoning? Simmons answered 'hi' instead of 'thank you for calling Red Base, this is Private Simmons', he said the radio was in disrepair, something that Lopez would never let happen, the time was 17:30 (Donut's daily wine and cheese hour) and there was no sound of clinking glasses, he said the weather was rainier and Mt. Ranier is the largest landmass in the state of ''Washington'', and the Meta is the biggest mass associated with Washington.
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-->'''Voiced By:''' Dan Godwin, Jordan Burns (Caboose's Mind, Seasons 2, 5-6), Miles Luna (radio transmission, Season 11), Barbara Dunkelman (Caboose's Mind, Season 14), Maggie Tominey ("Get Bent")

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-->'''Voiced By:''' Dan Godwin, Jordan Burns (Caboose's Mind, Seasons 2, 5-6), Miles Luna Creator/MilesLuna (radio transmission, Season 11), Barbara Dunkelman (Caboose's Mind, Season 14), Maggie Tominey ("Get Bent")
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* VitriolicBestBuds: [[UpToEleven Even more so than the rest of the Reds and Blues.]] Lopez considers them all idiots and seems to outright hate them most of the time, but he also sticks with them throughout the entire ''Chorus Trilogy'', never even balking at the prospect of defending the people of Chorus with them and joining them in the LastStand aboard the ''Staff of Charon'', and he is legitimately excited to see them again at the end of ''Singularity''.

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* VitriolicBestBuds: [[UpToEleven Even more so than the rest of the Reds and Blues.]] Blues. Lopez considers them all idiots and seems to outright hate them most of the time, but he also sticks with them throughout the entire ''Chorus Trilogy'', never even balking at the prospect of defending the people of Chorus with them and joining them in the LastStand aboard the ''Staff of Charon'', and he is legitimately excited to see them again at the end of ''Singularity''.

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* WeaponOfChoice: His [[ShotgunsAreJustBetter shotgun]] as evidenced by his picture, thus why he's so [[ShortRangeShotgun effective in close combat]].

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* WeaponOfChoice: His [[ShotgunsAreJustBetter shotgun]] as evidenced by WeaponBasedCharacterisation: [[DrillSergeantNasty Sarge]] almost exclusively uses his picture, thus why he's so [[ShortRangeShotgun effective in shotgun]]. He's a BloodKnight who loves killing up close combat]].and personal; he also enjoys threatening violence or emphasising his moods through dramatically loading the gun. The one time Washington mimics Sarge's likely reaction to the situation they're in, he picks up a shotgun to sell the imitation.



* WeaponOfChoice: Simmons is Red Team's heavy weapons man. In later seasons, he's frequently sporting a rocket launcher (though not always effectively), and he's almost always the chaingunner on Chupathingy (with which he's much more effective, actually laying down suppressing fire and killing several Wyomings).



In Season 10, he is shown to have kept the Meta's brute shot as his WeaponOfChoice, which he dubs "the Grifshot", and uses it in the fight against the Tex clones to rescue Epsilon and Carolina in Episodes 20 and 21.

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In Season 10, he is shown to have kept the Meta's brute shot as his WeaponOfChoice, shot, which he dubs "the Grifshot", and uses it in the fight against the Tex clones to rescue Epsilon and Carolina in Episodes 20 and 21.



* TookALevelInBadass: In Church's artificial reality, Donut somehow becomes the Red Team leader, and leads a rocket assault against the Blues. Also, he's a lot more competent in Season 10 and onward than he used to be, mainly due to him being assigned primarily to [[WeaponOfChoice grenade]] duty.

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* TookALevelInBadass: In Church's artificial reality, Donut somehow becomes the Red Team leader, and leads a rocket assault against the Blues. Also, he's a lot more competent in Season 10 and onward than he used to be, mainly due to him being assigned primarily to [[WeaponOfChoice grenade]] grenade duty.



* WeaponOfChoice: Plasma grenades. Grenades in general or anything throwable, but he gets his more impressive kills with the plasma kind. He's very good at pitching and tossing.

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* WeaponOfChoice: Plasma grenades. Grenades in general or anything throwable, but he gets his more impressive kills with the plasma kind. He's very WeaponBasedCharacterisation: [[TheDandy Donut]] is freakisly good at pitching throwing things and tossing.becomes increasingly associated with [[ThrowDownTheBomblet plasma grenades]] as the show progresses.
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-->'''Voiced By:''' Burnie Burns, Ashley Jenkins ("Get Bent")

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-->'''Voiced By:''' Burnie Burns, Burns (Seasons 1-17), Eddy Rivas (''Family Shatters''), Ashley Jenkins ("Get Bent")

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** He murdered his superior Lemons, under the assumtion he was a Blue.

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** He murdered his superior Lemons, under the assumtion assumption he was a Blue.Blue.
** He changed Donut's phone notification to the ping of a grenade. Since Donut likely has PTSD from the time Tex blew him up just makes it worse.

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* AmbiguousDisorder: Later seasons have implied that he suffers from severe [=PTSD=], and he's always had sociopathic tendencies dating back to the first season of the show. Season 11 also has him even displaying some tendencies normally associated with senility while stuck in Crash Site Bravo.

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* AmbiguousDisorder: Later seasons have implied that he suffers from severe [=PTSD=], PTSD, and he's always had sociopathic tendencies dating back to the first season of the show. Season 11 also has him even displaying some tendencies normally associated with senility while stuck in Crash Site Bravo.



* AwesomeByAnalysis[=/=]BatDeduction: In ''Revelation'', Simmons is forced to make a radio call to Sarge without telling him that they had been kidnapped by Wash and the Meta. Despite this, Sarge manages to work out every single detail ''instantly''. His reasoning? Simmons answered 'hi' instead of 'thank you for calling Red Base, this is Private Simmons', he said the radio was in disrepair, something that Lopez would never let happen, the time was 17:30 (Donut's daily wine and cheese hour) and there was no sound of clinkling glasses, he said the weather was rainier and Mt. Ranier is the largest landmass in the state of ''Washington'', and the Meta is the biggest mass associated with Washington.

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* AwesomeByAnalysis[=/=]BatDeduction: In ''Revelation'', Simmons is forced to make a radio call to Sarge without telling him that they had been kidnapped by Wash and the Meta. Despite this, Sarge manages to work out every single detail ''instantly''. His reasoning? Simmons answered 'hi' instead of 'thank you for calling Red Base, this is Private Simmons', he said the radio was in disrepair, something that Lopez would never let happen, the time was 17:30 (Donut's daily wine and cheese hour) and there was no sound of clinkling clinking glasses, he said the weather was rainier and Mt. Ranier is the largest landmass in the state of ''Washington'', and the Meta is the biggest mass associated with Washington.



* BadBoss: His antics have nearly gotten his team (mainly [[SitcomArchNemesis Grif]]) killed on multiple occasions. Simmons even questions why they starved to death under his watch.



* KickTheDog: When he orders Andy to blow up the pelican that Tex, Junior and Omega are in. Granted, he's technically saving the day, but his tone implies that he actually does that out of spite and anti-blue sentiment rather than a desire to thwart Omega's plan. In fact, he might not even be aware that there was an evil plot for him to thwart.

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When he orders Andy to blow up the pelican that Tex, Junior and Omega are in. Granted, he's technically saving the day, but his tone implies that he actually does that out of spite and anti-blue sentiment rather than a desire to thwart Omega's plan. In fact, he might not even be aware that there was an evil plot for him to thwart.thwart.
** He murdered his superior Lemons, under the assumtion he was a Blue.



* StereotypeGay: Though at times it comes off as InnocentInnuendo taken to [[UpToEleven extremes]]. Still doesn't explain Officer Hotpants, though.

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* StereotypeGay: Though at times it comes off as InnocentInnuendo taken to [[UpToEleven [[ExaggeratedTrope extremes]]. Still doesn't explain Officer Hotpants, though.



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* RagtagBunchOfMisfits: Even moreso than the usual Reds and Blues. One's a famous actor known for his roles in western films, one's a commander from the American Revolutionary War, one's a European conquerer slowly succumbing to illness, and they've all been brought to the distant future via time travel.

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* RagtagBunchOfMisfits: Even moreso than the usual Reds and Blues. One's a famous actor known for his roles in western films, one's a commander from the American Revolutionary War, one's a European conquerer conqueror slowly succumbing to illness, and they've all been brought to the distant future via time travel.
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* DudeWheresMyRespect: When the chips are down, Donut repeatedly proves himself to be a competent and loyal soldier, but all of the Reds and Blues tend to treat him as a barely functional idiot and absolutely refuse to trust his judgement or even listen to him.

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* DudeWheresMyRespect: When the chips are down, Donut repeatedly proves himself to be a competent and loyal soldier, but all of the Reds and Blues tend to treat him as a barely functional idiot and absolutely refuse to trust his judgement or even listen to him. He becomes increasingly aware and bitter of this throughout the Shisno Trilogy; at one point he notes that Wash - the man who ''shot'' him - gets more respect than he does.
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* GenreBlind: It takes him until ''Season 16'' to realize that the Reds and Blues are idiotic assholes.

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* GenreBlind: GenreBlindness: It takes him until ''Season 16'' to realize that the Reds and Blues are idiotic assholes.



* TookALevelInDumbass: Initially, he was the OnlySaneMan of Red Team, being mildly naive but very much professional and competent. By the end of ''The Blood Gulch Chronicles'', this is no longer the case, and he’s on the same level as Caboose in the intelligence department.

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* TookALevelInDumbass: Initially, he was the OnlySaneMan of Red Team, being mildly naive naïve but very much professional and competent. By the end of ''The Blood Gulch Chronicles'', this is no longer the case, and he’s on the same level as Caboose in the intelligence department.
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* DependingOnTheWriter: He frequently alternates between a legitimately competent CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass and a useless moron depending on [[RuleOfFunny what's funniest]], though he's portrayed primarily as the former following Season 16.
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[[Characters/RedVsBlueProjectFreelancer Project Freelancer]] ([[Characters/RedVsBlueSimulationTroopers Simulation Troopers]] | [[Characters/RedVsBlueArtificialIntelligences Artificial Intelligences]]) | [[Characters/RedVsBlueCharonIndustries Charon Industries]] ([[Characters/RedVsBlueSpacePirates Space Pirates]] [[[Characters/RedVsBlueFelix Felix]], [[Characters/RedVsBlueLocus Locus]]]) | [[Characters/RedVsBlueChorus Chorus]] | [[Characters/RedVsBlueCosmicPowers Cosmic Powers]] | [[Characters/RedVsBlueAllianceOfDefense Alliance of Defense]] | [[Characters/RedVsBlueOthers Others]]-]]]]]

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[[Characters/RedVsBlueProjectFreelancer Project Freelancer]] ([[Characters/RedVsBlueSimulationTroopers Simulation Troopers]] | [[Characters/RedVsBlueArtificialIntelligences Artificial Intelligences]]) | [[Characters/RedVsBlueCharonIndustries Charon Industries]] ([[Characters/RedVsBlueSpacePirates Space Pirates]] [[[Characters/RedVsBlueFelix ([[Characters/RedVsBlueFelix Felix]], [[Characters/RedVsBlueLocus Locus]]]) Locus]]) | [[Characters/RedVsBlueChorus Chorus]] | [[Characters/RedVsBlueCosmicPowers Cosmic Powers]] | [[Characters/RedVsBlueAllianceOfDefense Alliance of Defense]] | [[Characters/RedVsBlueOthers Others]]-]]]]]

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* BookSmart: He is technically-minded and knows about computers and physics, though he does poorly on timed tests.



* DorkKnight: Especially while on Chorus. Being in charge of an AmazonBrigade was hell for a HollywoodNerd like him.

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* DorkKnight: Especially while on Chorus. Being in charge of an AmazonBrigade was hell for a HollywoodNerd {{Nerd}} like him.



** To Grif. Specifically, Simmons is a insecure [[ProfessionalButtKisser suck-up]] who is constantly working, thrives on rigid organization, and [[HollywoodNerd takes great pains to appear to be a genius when he really isn't as smart as he likes to think he is]]. Meanwhile, Grif is a LazyBum who constantly avoids work, [[DeadpanSnarker has no respect for authority]], and is implied to be [[BrilliantbutLazy considerably smarter than he lets on]].

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** To Grif. Specifically, Simmons is a insecure [[ProfessionalButtKisser suck-up]] who is constantly working, thrives on rigid organization, and [[HollywoodNerd takes great pains to appear to be a genius when he really isn't as smart as he likes to think he is]].is. Meanwhile, Grif is a LazyBum who constantly avoids work, [[DeadpanSnarker has no respect for authority]], and is implied to be [[BrilliantbutLazy considerably smarter than he lets on]].



* HollywoodNerd: "[[CannotTalkToWomen Sorry, but Tex isn't helping!]]"



* IronicName: Named after Richard Simmons, a famous American fitness instructor. Simmons himself is a HollywoodNerd.
* {{Irony}}: Despite being a HollywoodNerd, [[ChickMagnet he actually gets the most attention from the opposite sex]] over the course of the series.

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* IronicName: Named after Richard Simmons, a famous American fitness instructor. Simmons himself is a HollywoodNerd.
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* {{Irony}}: Despite being a HollywoodNerd, {{Nerd}}, [[ChickMagnet he actually gets the most attention from the opposite sex]] over the course of the series.



* LethallyStupid: Simmons is not immune to this. He can be considered to exhibit this just for choosing to suck up to ''[[InsaneTrollLogic Sarge]]'' of all people. Granted, being possessed by Omega seems to bring out some of his repressed anger, and make him somewhat less submissive to Sarge's incompetence. Sycophantic tendencies aside, though, he occasionally seems to genuinely believe Sarge's crackpot theories (i.e., the bomb "blowing them into the future" in Season 3), while Grif just seems to mostly go along with them in order to make things smoother. Ultimately, [[OnlySaneMan Grif]] and [[HollywoodNerd Simmons]] show that there is a pretty big difference between being smart/logical and intelligent/knowledgeable.

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* LethallyStupid: Simmons is not immune to this. He can be considered to exhibit this just for choosing to suck up to ''[[InsaneTrollLogic Sarge]]'' of all people. Granted, being possessed by Omega seems to bring out some of his repressed anger, and make him somewhat less submissive to Sarge's incompetence. Sycophantic tendencies aside, though, he occasionally seems to genuinely believe Sarge's crackpot theories (i.e., the bomb "blowing them into the future" in Season 3), while Grif just seems to mostly go along with them in order to make things smoother. Ultimately, [[OnlySaneMan Grif]] and [[HollywoodNerd [[{{Nerd}} Simmons]] show that there is a pretty big difference between being smart/logical and intelligent/knowledgeable.



* {{Nerd}}: He wanted to be a mathlete when he was younger, is BookSmart and knowledgable about technology and physics, and [[CannotTalkToWomen is awkward around women]].



* OOCIsSeriousBusiness: By the end of his time travel experiments in ''The Shisno Paradox'', Simmons faces an existential crisis and decides to reject science altogether. When ''[[HollywoodNerd Simmons]]'' no longer believes in science, then all logic is clearly being thrown out the window. He's positively relieved when he figures out near the end of the season that the Cosmic Powers are actually [[ClarkesThirdLaw sufficiently advanced]] [=A.I.s=], even proudly proclaiming "Science ''is'' good for something after all!"

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* OOCIsSeriousBusiness: By the end of his time travel experiments in ''The Shisno Paradox'', Simmons faces an existential crisis and decides to reject science altogether. When ''[[HollywoodNerd ''[[{{Nerd}} Simmons]]'' no longer believes in science, then all logic is clearly being thrown out the window. He's positively relieved when he figures out near the end of the season that the Cosmic Powers are actually [[ClarkesThirdLaw sufficiently advanced]] [=A.I.s=], even proudly proclaiming "Science ''is'' good for something after all!"
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* {{Hypocrite}}: He is the most [[AxCrazy aggressive]] and [[BloodKnight violent]] of the Blood Gulch Crew, often [[HairTriggerTemper looking for a fight]], boasting how [[BlatantLies great a leader and soldier he is]], and dismissing any actual kind of strategy or pragmatism as overly convoluted or irrational. However, when things actually get dangerous (basically whenever he and the Reds are fighting a competent enemy), he'll be one of the first running away, all while blathering about it being a "tactical retreat," no less. He is never directly called out on it, though, because this usually happens around the Red Team, which is composed of: [[YesMan Simmons]], who usually sees how deluded Sarge is, but is an insecure sycophant; [[LazyBum Grif]], who is usually too exasperated and/or lazy to actually try to break through Sarge's delusions; [[TheDitz Donut]], who is just too stupid to notice; [[OnlySaneMan Lopez]], who actually ''does'' call Sarge out, but can only speak Spanish, and is therefore never actually understood.

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* {{Hypocrite}}: He is the most [[AxCrazy aggressive]] and [[BloodKnight violent]] of the Blood Gulch Crew, often [[HairTriggerTemper looking for a fight]], boasting how [[BlatantLies great a leader and soldier he is]], and dismissing any actual kind of strategy or pragmatism as overly convoluted or irrational. However, when things actually get dangerous (basically whenever he and the Reds are fighting a competent enemy), he'll be one of the first running away, all while blathering about it being a "tactical retreat," no less. He is never directly called out on it, though, because this usually happens around the Red Team, which is composed of: [[YesMan Simmons]], who usually sees how deluded Sarge is, but is an insecure sycophant; [[LazyBum Grif]], who is usually too exasperated and/or lazy to actually try to break through Sarge's delusions; [[TheDitz Donut]], who is just too stupid dumb to notice; [[OnlySaneMan Lopez]], who actually ''does'' call Sarge out, but can only speak Spanish, and is therefore never actually understood.
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** His hatred of the Blues borders on this.

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** His hatred of for the Blues borders on this.



* {{Flanderization}}: His hatred of Grif was elevated from simply disliking Grif’s laziness to constantly trying to murder him and coming up with plans that always involve his gruesome and bloody death.

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* {{Flanderization}}: His hatred of towards Grif was elevated from simply disliking Grif’s laziness to constantly trying to murder him and coming up with plans that always involve his gruesome and bloody death.
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* DeathSeeker: Implied in Season 15. He mourns the fact that he didn't die heroically on Chorus, which left him severely depressed during their 10 month period of retirement. His attempt at convincing Simmons and Lopez to join the Blues and Reds wasn't that it was the ''right'' thing to do, but that they'd be facing impossible odds and would surely die. He gets snapped out of it though.

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* DeathSeeker: Implied in Season 15. He mourns the fact that he didn't die heroically on Chorus, which left him severely depressed during their 10 month period of retirement. His attempt at convincing Simmons and Lopez to join the Blues and Reds wasn't that it was the ''right'' thing to do, but that they'd be facing impossible odds and would surely die. He gets snapped out of it though.this, however.
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No, Donut anger is well justified and not short at all. Lopez's fear was being human not the Reds understanding his insult, plus he already admits that being able to insult them without their knowledge is the one aspect of his inability to speak English that he actually enjoys.


* TookALevelInJerkass: Downplayed, but as he becomes more assertive in ''Singularity'', he also gains more of a short temper and doesn't take nearly as much crap as he used to. When taking most of the things that has happened to him into account, you can hardly blame for him it.



* {{Hypocrite}}: [[spoiler:''Singularity'' reveals that Lopez actually (somewhat) ''doesn't'' want to be able to be understood by the Reds since the LanguageBarrier lets him {{Troll}} them without risk of retaliation.]]
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* VocalEvolution: His voice gets higher and louder each season.

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* VocalEvolution: His voice gets higher and louder each season. ''[[Machinima/RedVsBlueTheShisnoTrilogy Singularity]]'' has him undergo this in the ''opposite'' direction, his voice deepening being tied into his CharacterDevelopment and becoming the unofficial leader of the BGC against Genkins.
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Removing flamebait.


He initially isn't involved in the crash landing with the Reds and Blues in Season 11, but eventually makes contact with them in Episode 6. However, when he actually shows up in Episode 10, alongside Doc and Lopez('s head), he [[WhatAnIdiot forgets to bring the pilot that brought the three there]], leaving them also stranded on the planet.

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He initially isn't involved in the crash landing with the Reds and Blues in Season 11, but eventually makes contact with them in Episode 6. However, when he actually shows up in Episode 10, alongside Doc and Lopez('s head), he [[WhatAnIdiot forgets to bring the pilot that brought the three there]], there, leaving them also stranded on the planet.

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* CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass: Completely delusional and insane, as well as quite possibly suffering from [=PTSD=] or some such. He's also one of the most competent non-Freelancer soldiers in Blood Gulch, if not out of ''all'' the simulation troopers.

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* CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass: Completely delusional and insane, as well as quite possibly suffering from [=PTSD=] or some such. He's also one of the most competent non-Freelancer soldiers in Blood Gulch, if not out of ''all'' the simulation troopers. It's also been confirmed that he was an [=ODST=], though the experience is implied to have left him with more than a few issues.


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* JerkassToOne: Sarge is usually a cantankerous if harmless nutjob to just about everyone he interacts with but he practically lives to torment Grif, often trying to engineer a violent death for him or dreaming up ways to humiliate and injure the slacker.

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