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* LaserGuidedKarma: Larys' constant turning of his cloak during the Dance of the Dragons finally catches up with him when, after possibly assassinating Aegon II, definitely killing or imprisoning the remaining Green loyalists and persuading the Greens to surrender, he's soon at the mercy of Cregan Stark.
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-->''Was there ever a man as devious as the Clubfoot?''
---> --'''The Testimony of Mushroom'''
---> --'''The Testimony of Mushroom'''
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->'''Harren''': What is outside my walls is of no concern to me. Those walls are strong and thick.
->'''Aegon''': But not so high as to keep out dragons. Dragons fly.
->'''Harren''': I built in stone. Stone does not burn.
->'''Aegon''': When the sun sets, your line shall end.
-->--'''The world of ice and fire'''
->'''Aegon''': But not so high as to keep out dragons. Dragons fly.
->'''Harren''': I built in stone. Stone does not burn.
->'''Aegon''': When the sun sets, your line shall end.
-->--'''The world of ice and fire'''
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* CruelAndUnusualDeath: [[spoiler:Maegor gave her to Tyanna as punishment for the malformed babe she gave birth to. Alys was subjected to horrible torture, with Tyanna keeping her alive for half a month before she died.]]
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* ImpoverishedPatrician: By the time he became lord, House Towers was so impoverished it only had one cook and three aged men-at-arms.
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First son of Lord Lyonel. His is possibly the father of Princess Rhaenyra Targaryen's first three children, who lacked Valyrian traits.
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* RegalRinglets: She has her hair styled in fancy curls in her ''The World of Ice and Fire'' portrait.
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* WildCard: Treated as such by historians, and not without cause, as they have a lot of difficulties figuring out just what this man's whole deal was.
-->'''Gyldayn:''' The enigma that is Larys Strong the Clubfoot has vexed students of history for generations, and is not one we can hope to unravel here. Where did his loyalties lie? What was he about? He wove his way all through the Dance of the Dragons, on this side and that side, vanishing and reappearing, yet somehow always surviving. How much of what he said and did was ruse, how much was real? Was he just a man who sailed with the prevailing wind, or did he know where he was bound when he set out? So may we ask, but none will answer. The last Strong kept his secrets.
-->'''Gyldayn:''' The enigma that is Larys Strong the Clubfoot has vexed students of history for generations, and is not one we can hope to unravel here. Where did his loyalties lie? What was he about? He wove his way all through the Dance of the Dragons, on this side and that side, vanishing and reappearing, yet somehow always surviving. How much of what he said and did was ruse, how much was real? Was he just a man who sailed with the prevailing wind, or did he know where he was bound when he set out? So may we ask, but none will answer. The last Strong kept his secrets.
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-->''A more unwelcome wedding guest can scarce be imagined.''
---> --'''Archmaester Gyldayn'''
---> --'''Archmaester Gyldayn'''
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* AmbiguouslyBi: It was rumored that Tyanna of the Tower was originally ''her'' lover before Tyanna married Maegor and possibly after the marriage too; Alys presided over their bedding ceremony and was rumored to have taken part in the wedding night, suggesting they have had some kind of polyamorous relationship.
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* AmbiguouslyBi: It was rumored that Tyanna of the Tower was originally ''her'' lover before Tyanna married Maegor Maegor, and possibly after the marriage too; Alys presided over their bedding ceremony and was rumored to have taken part in the wedding night, suggesting they may have had some kind of polyamorous relationship.
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* AFateWorseThanDeath: Maegor [[spoiler: gave her to Tyanna as punishment for the malformed babe she gave birth to. Alys was subjected to horrible torture, with Tyanna keeping her alive for half a month before she died.]]
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* AFateWorseThanDeath: AmbiguouslyBi: It was rumored that Tyanna of the Tower was originally ''her'' lover before Tyanna married Maegor [[spoiler: and possibly after the marriage too; Alys presided over their bedding ceremony and was rumored to have taken part in the wedding night, suggesting they have had some kind of polyamorous relationship.
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* CruelAndUnusualDeath: [[spoiler:Maegor gave her to Tyanna as punishment for the malformed babe she gave birth to. Alys was subjected to horrible torture, with Tyanna keeping her alive for half a month before she died.]]
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* FrameUp: [[spoiler:Tyanna suggested that the monstrosity Alys gave birth to was due to her having secret affairs. This led to Maegor executing her, her friends, and the entirety of House Harroway in revenge. Tyanna later admitted she had poisoned Alys and Maegor's other wives and was responsible for the deformed babies.]]
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* FrameUp: [[spoiler:Tyanna suggested that the monstrosity Alys gave birth to was due to her having secret affairs. This led to Maegor executing her, her friends, and the entirety of House Harroway in revenge. Tyanna later admitted she had poisoned Alys and Maegor's other wives and was responsible for the deformed babies.babies, suggesting that Tyanna's claim of her infidelity was a lie.]]
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* NoHistoricalFiguresWereHarmed: She bears many similarities to Anne Boleyn, second wife of King Henry VIII (whom Alys' husband Maegor resembles in several ways). Henry annulled his marriage to Catherine of Aragon to marry Anne due to Catherine being unable to give him a son, while Maegor claimed his first wife Ceryse Hightower was barren and polygamously married Alys to get a son. For both Henry and Maegor, this angered the primary religions of their realm (the Catholic Church and the Faith of the Seven, respectively), with the second marriages being denounced as sinful, while both Anne and Alys were derogatively referred to as the 'king's whore'. Like Anne, Alys struggled to give her husband an heir (while Anne gave birth to Elizabeth I, her other pregnancies ended in miscarriages and stillbirths, while Alys never had a living child). After she [[spoiler: gave birth to a deformed, stillborn child]], Alys was accused of being unfaithful; she and her alleged lovers were all rounded up and executed, which is almost exactly the same thing that happened to Anne (although in comparison, Anne's [[OffWithHerHead fate]] was more merciful than Alys' [[spoiler: who was reportedly [[CruelAndUnusualDeath tortured to death over a fortnight]]]]).
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* NoHistoricalFiguresWereHarmed: She bears many similarities to Anne Boleyn, second wife of King Henry VIII (whom Alys' husband Maegor resembles in several ways). Henry annulled his marriage to Catherine of Aragon to marry Anne due to Catherine being unable to give him a son, while Maegor claimed his first wife Ceryse Hightower was barren and polygamously married Alys to get a son. For both Henry and Maegor, this angered the primary religions of their realm (the Catholic Church and the Faith of the Seven, respectively), with the second marriages being denounced as sinful, while both Anne and Alys were derogatively referred to as the 'king's whore'. Like Anne, Alys struggled to give her husband an heir (while Anne gave birth to Elizabeth I, her other pregnancies ended in miscarriages and stillbirths, while Alys never had a living child). After she [[spoiler: gave birth to a deformed, stillborn child]], Alys was accused of being unfaithful; she and her alleged lovers were all rounded up and executed, which is almost exactly the same thing that happened to Anne (although in comparison, Anne's [[OffWithHerHead fate]] was more merciful than Alys' [[spoiler: who was reportedly [[CruelAndUnusualDeath tortured to death over a fortnight]]]]).fortnight]]).
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* ReallyGetsAround: Subverted. [[spoiler: Tyanna claimed she was cheating on Maegor with as many as ''twenty'' men, but they were tortured into confessing, making it suspect, and Tyanna isn't the most trustworthy of individuals (she later confessed that she had poisoned Alys, causing the deformed stillbirth) so it seems doubtful it's true]].
* SterilityPlague: Sure, [[spoiler: the problems with her pregnancy ''could'' have been with Maegor, given his known lack of issue with other women, or indeed from Tyanna poisoning her as ''she'' claimed. But, given Alys ''was'' from the still-relatively-recently-dragonfired-and-probably-still-settling Harrenhal, it might not have been about him at all in this specific case... Perhaps his mother (or Tyanna) could have warned the "happy couple" a little more about any possible long-term side effects of the extensive use of Fire and Blood. On both parties.]]
* SterilityPlague: Sure, [[spoiler: the problems with her pregnancy ''could'' have been with Maegor, given his known lack of issue with other women, or indeed from Tyanna poisoning her as ''she'' claimed. But, given Alys ''was'' from the still-relatively-recently-dragonfired-and-probably-still-settling Harrenhal, it might not have been about him at all in this specific case... Perhaps his mother (or Tyanna) could have warned the "happy couple" a little more about any possible long-term side effects of the extensive use of Fire and Blood. On both parties.]]
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* SlutShaming: She was often referred to in Westeros as "the whore of Harroway" or "Maegor's whore" because she had married him while his first wife, Ceryse Hightower, was still alive. This took an especially nasty turn when [[spoiler:Tyanna claimed Alys had cheated on Maegor with other men; in response he had Alys and her entire family brutally killed]].
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* SlutShaming: She was often referred to in Westeros as "the whore of Harroway" or "Maegor's whore" because she had married him while his first wife, Ceryse Hightower, was still alive. This took an especially nasty turn when [[spoiler:Tyanna claimed Alys had cheated on Maegor with other men; in response he had Alys and her entire family brutally killed]].
* SterilityPlague: Sure, [[spoiler: the problems with her pregnancy ''could'' have been
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* RankUp: Appointed Hand of the King after Viserys I stripped Otto Hightower of the position for constantly badgering Viserys to replace Rhaenyra with Aegon, Viserys' eldest son by his second wife, Otto's daughter Alicent.
-->'''Viserys I Targaryen''': ''[speaking of Lyonel Strong]'' This Hand will not hector me.
-->'''Viserys I Targaryen''': ''[speaking of Lyonel Strong]'' This Hand will not hector me.
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* HistoryRepeats: Varys apparently read through this guy’s playbook. A spymaster, not really liked by anyone, with some kind of physical difference from other men? Check. Uncertain loyalties? Check. Working tirelessly, secretly, behind the scenes to get a guy [[spoiler:named Aegon]] onto the throne? Check. An extensive knowledge of the secret tunnels under The Red Keep? Disappearing into those tunnels when a mad queen takes the throne and the city goes to hell? Abruptly reappearing to champion someone no one else really saw coming as the king? Check, check and CHECK.
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Wild Wilderness refers to large, pristine wildernesses far or isolated from civilization. A semi-tended park within a castle's walls isn't an example.
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* WildWilderness: Harrenhal boasts a godswood, despite how much weirwood and other timbers went into its construction. However, unlike the Wolfswood of Winterfell, Harrenhal's has a downright sinister reputation, although it doesn't quite hit TheLostWoods territory. It also boasts what is arguably the creepiest heart tree south of the Wall, if not in the whole of Westeros. The thing is huge, ancient, deeply scarred and, often in spring or during midwinter thaws, bleeds from every puncture. It has a gaping expression of rage and horror mingled with madness. So, it's gone for rather more a WhenTreesAttack (or get attacked) look than a WiseTree one, then.
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* AdultFear: His son died before him.
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* SoleSurvivor: He was fortunate of being long dead by the time his son and eldest grandson died on a mysterious fire. Then his brother and his descendants were killed, bringing an end to the family.
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* IllBoy: Apparently sickly from a young age and he died at the age of seventeen without leaving descendants.
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* NamedAfterTheInjury: Harwin Strong was once known as Breakbones for his strength until he got beaten and humiliated at a tournament by Criston Cole and the fool Mushroom started calling him Brokenbones, which stuck with him.
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* OnlySaneMan: He had become this by the end of the Dance, frequently having to remind Aegon II and Dowager Queen Alicent that they [[CantKillYouStillNeedYou needed Corlys Velaryon and his House on their side]], and they couldn't afford to petulantly execute Corlys every time [[TeethClenchedTeamwork he criticised them]] when the Greens needed every ally they could get against enemies they couldn't negotiate with like [[These terminator Cregan Stark]].
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* OnlySaneMan: He had become this by the end of the Dance, frequently having to remind Aegon II and Dowager Queen Alicent that they [[CantKillYouStillNeedYou needed Corlys Velaryon and his House on their side]], and they couldn't afford to petulantly execute Corlys every time [[TeethClenchedTeamwork he criticised them]] when the Greens needed every ally they could get against enemies they couldn't negotiate with like [[These terminator [[TheDeterminator Cregan Stark]].
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* OnlySaneMan: He had become this by the end of the Dance, frequently having to remind Aegon II and Dowager Queen Alicent that they [[CantKillYouStillNeedYou needed Corlys Velaryon and his House on their side]], and they couldn't afford to petulantly execute Corlys every time [[TeethClenchedTeamwork he criticised them]] when the Greens needed every ally they could get against enemies they couldn't negotiate with like [[These terminator Cregan Stark]].
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Bald Of Awesome is going to be renamed and redefined per TRS decision. Also ZCE
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* DecapitationPresentation: After his execution for assassinating Aegon II, the heads of Larys and Ser Gyles Belgrave of the Kingsguard (the only other conspirator who chose exection over joining the Night's Watch) were put on spikes above the gates of the Red Keep.
* FaceDeathWithDignity: Accepted his death sentence from Cregan Stark and merely asked that the latter cut off his clubfoot after his execution, so it wouldn't impede him in the afterlife.
-->'''Larys Strong''': When I am dead, hack off my clubfoot with that great sword of yours. I have dragged it with me all through life, let me be free of it in death at least.
* FaceDeathWithDignity: Accepted his death sentence from Cregan Stark and merely asked that the latter cut off his clubfoot after his execution, so it wouldn't impede him in the afterlife.
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*** Rock melted at temperatures high enough to flow turns into naturally "mildly" radioactive basalt once it cools down. All five towers were partially melted. That's another possible answer to the curse: radiation!