Follow TV Tropes

Following

History Anvilicious / AnimeAndManga

Go To

OR

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

%%%
%%
%% This page has been alphabetized. Please add new examples in the correct order. Thanks!
%%
%%%

----


Added DiffLines:

Added: 199

Changed: 788

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* In ''LightNovel/TheFamiliarOfZero'', the episode in which [[spoiler:Mr. Colbert]] dies was a ''very'' thinly veiled message about why war is bad, the entire second season being about how WarIsHell.



* In ''LightNovel/TheFamiliarOfZero'', the episode in which [[spoiler:Mr. Colbert]] dies was a ''very'' thinly veiled message about why war is bad, the entire second season being about how WarIsHell.

to:

* In ''LightNovel/TheFamiliarOfZero'', While plenty of Japanese stories have made very notable {{Take That}}s at the episode in which [[spoiler:Mr. Colbert]] dies was a ''very'' thinly veiled message about why war is bad, {{Workaholic}} nature of Japanese society, ''LightNovel/IveBeenKillingSlimesForThreeHundredYearsAndMaxedOutMyLevel'' takes this to especially heavy-handed levels, as both the entire second season being about premise and most of the plot revolve around protagonist Azusa Aizawa reincarnating due to ''karoshi'' (death by overwork), and she not only has made it her goal to live an [[TheAgeless unaging]] slow life where she never overworks herself again, but she also frequently defies many people's beliefs that pushing oneself for the sake of another is in any way noble. It's very much a strongly pushed message, but the story wouldn't really work without it, and given how WarIsHell.it's still such a major thing in Japanese work culture, definitely a worthile {{Aesop}}.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:


** The original ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam'', including its subsequent sequels had a minor subversion by dropping opposing anvils at the same time.
** For a case of [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped necessary anvil]], we present ''Gundam 0080''. War is NotAGame, and a [[{{mook}} Zaku]] can never beat a [[SuperPrototype Gundam]].

to:

%% ** The original ''Anime/MobileSuitGundam'', including its subsequent sequels had a minor subversion by dropping opposing anvils at the same time.
%% ** For a case of [[SomeAnvilsNeedToBeDropped necessary anvil]], we present ''Gundam 0080''. War is NotAGame, and a [[{{mook}} Zaku]] can never beat a [[SuperPrototype Gundam]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Removed a literal case of Department of Redundancy Department; the sentence structure was even the exact same, pfff


* ''Anime/KirbyRightBackAtYa'' was not subtle with many of its messages. Any lesson it had became a focal point of the whole episode and usually was a [[AuthorTract major part of the entire narrative]], such as an episode about whaling episode taking place entirely in the water and on a whale. Furthermore, King Dedede--CardCarryingVillain and Dream Land's [[IOwnThisTown troublesome ruler]]--was the one who would cause these problems, making him the scapegoat for "Don't be like this guy" messages. It tackled the topic of dentistry with the fact that you should brush well or else [[ItMakesSenseInContext little purple men will destroy your teeth from the inside of your mouth]], [[GreenAesop evil people pollute and destroy the ozone, industry causes acid rain and destroys plant life]], it's wrong to make a collectible toy line in which every figure doesn't have an equal chance of being found (and thus all would be the same value), [[OldMediaAreEvil television lies and sucks people's life away]], illegal dumping is wrong, tourists destroy landmarks and towns, lying about historical accuracy is wrong, and [[AWeightyAesop you should eat properly]].

to:

* ''Anime/KirbyRightBackAtYa'' was not subtle with many of its messages. Any lesson it had became a focal point of the whole episode and usually was a [[AuthorTract major part of the entire narrative]], such as an episode about whaling episode taking place entirely in the water and on a whale. Furthermore, King Dedede--CardCarryingVillain and Dream Land's [[IOwnThisTown troublesome ruler]]--was the one who would cause these problems, making him the scapegoat for "Don't be like this guy" messages. It tackled the topic of dentistry with the fact that you should brush well or else [[ItMakesSenseInContext little purple men will destroy your teeth from the inside of your mouth]], [[GreenAesop evil people pollute and destroy the ozone, industry causes acid rain and destroys plant life]], it's wrong to make a collectible toy line in which every figure doesn't have an equal chance of being found (and thus all would be the same value), [[OldMediaAreEvil television lies and sucks people's life away]], illegal dumping is wrong, tourists destroy landmarks and towns, lying about historical accuracy is wrong, and [[AWeightyAesop you should eat properly]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Grammar


* ''Anime/EarthMaidenArjuna'' is the anime version of ''WesternAnimation/{{Captain Planet|and the Planeteers}}'' (see below), with the superhero replaced with a MagicalGirl as with more psychological angst.

to:

* ''Anime/EarthMaidenArjuna'' is the anime version of ''WesternAnimation/{{Captain Planet|and the Planeteers}}'' (see below), with the superhero replaced with a MagicalGirl as well as with more psychological angst.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Irrelevent to trope.


** Which is turned into a BrokenAesop, as Shikamaru was portrayed as perfectly justified in seeking revenge against Hidan and Kakuzu. Even if you try to find some explanation for this, the fact that revenge is portrayed bad only for when the target is an [[JerkSue Uchiha]] means such anvilicous aesop is already broken anyway.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

** Coupled with [[spoiler: a 20 minute prologue to explain Mewtwo's tragic backstory in the original Japanese version]], to REALLY make it clear that animal experimentation is bad. [[spoiler: Also serves the dual purpose of presenting the angst-filled Mewtwo as a tragic hero.]]

Changed: 2441

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** As said above, ''Gundam'' has dropped many anvils over its span. However, there is one common anvil that transcends each series: "If we all understand each other, we can all stop fighting, get along and be happy." This theme has existed since the first series (as it was the basis of Zeon Daikun's Newtype theory) and has been carried over the rest of UC (all the way to ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamUnicorn Gundam Unicorn]]'') and even further into the [[AlternateUniverse AUs]]; among the latter, only ''[[Anime/MobileFighterGGundam G Gundam]]'' subverts the message due to its kung fu action movie theme[[note]]which essentially claims understanding can only be achieved ''through'' fighting[[/note]]. Alongside, said message is usually presented as the basis of the resident universe's telepaths and their purpose; this is especially the case with the Innovators of ''Gundam 00''[[note]]in which Setsuna's ultimate attack is causing spontaneously generated telepathy among those in range so that automatic understanding can be achieved[[/note]] and the X-Rounders of ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamAGE Gundam AGE]]''[[note]]which was the whole reason Kio went through the [[FanNickname Vagan Magical Mystery Tour]] arc[[/note]].

to:

** As said above, ''Gundam'' has dropped many anvils over its span. However, there is one common anvil that transcends each series: "If we all understand each other, we can all stop fighting, get along and be happy." This theme has existed since the first series (as it was the basis of Zeon Daikun's Newtype theory) and has been carried over the rest of UC (all the way to ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamUnicorn Gundam Unicorn]]'') and even further into the [[AlternateUniverse AUs]]; {{Alternate Universe}}s; among the latter, only ''[[Anime/MobileFighterGGundam G Gundam]]'' subverts the message due to its kung fu action movie theme[[note]]which essentially claims understanding can only be achieved ''through'' fighting[[/note]]. Alongside, said message is usually presented as the basis of the resident universe's telepaths and their purpose; this is especially the case with the Innovators of ''Gundam 00''[[note]]in which Setsuna's ultimate attack is causing spontaneously generated telepathy among those in range so that automatic understanding can be achieved[[/note]] and the X-Rounders of ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamAGE Gundam AGE]]''[[note]]which was the whole reason Kio went through the [[FanNickname Vagan Magical Mystery Tour]] arc[[/note]].



* In an episode of the ''Anime/KirbyOfTheStars'', Dedede gets addicted to snacks and becomes grossly fat, unable to even stand up. This is followed by two characters announcing out loud that this is what happens if you only eat snacks and stay up all night watching television and Dedede being paraded through the town, pointed and laughed at. All of this before the episode is even halfway through.
** Kirby was not subtle in general with any of its messages. It tackled the topic of dentristry with the fact that you should brush well or else [[ItMakesSenseInContext little purple men will destroy your teeth from the inside of your mouth]], evil people pollute and destroy the ozone, industry causes acid rain and destroys plant life, its wrong to make a collectible toy line in which every figure doesn't have an equal chance of being found (and thus all would be the same value), television lies and sucks people's life away, illegal dumping is wrong, tourists destroy landmarks and towns, lying about historical accuracy is wrong, you should eat properly, and harpooning whales is evil. Any lesson it had became a focal point of the whole episode and usually was a major part of the entire narrative, the whale episode taking place entirely in the water and on a whale. Furthermore, King Dedede was the one who would cause these problems, making him the scapegoat for "Don't be like this guy" messages.
* ''Manga/{{Life}}'' keeps no subtlety in any of its themes. The whole manga is about a girl who is bullied, and the bullies themselves are two-faced [[{{JerkAss}} Jerkasses]].

to:

* In ''Anime/KirbyRightBackAtYa'' was not subtle with many of its messages. Any lesson it had became a focal point of the whole episode and usually was a [[AuthorTract major part of the entire narrative]], such as an episode of about whaling episode taking place entirely in the ''Anime/KirbyOfTheStars'', water and on a whale. Furthermore, King Dedede--CardCarryingVillain and Dream Land's [[IOwnThisTown troublesome ruler]]--was the one who would cause these problems, making him the scapegoat for "Don't be like this guy" messages. It tackled the topic of dentistry with the fact that you should brush well or else [[ItMakesSenseInContext little purple men will destroy your teeth from the inside of your mouth]], [[GreenAesop evil people pollute and destroy the ozone, industry causes acid rain and destroys plant life]], it's wrong to make a collectible toy line in which every figure doesn't have an equal chance of being found (and thus all would be the same value), [[OldMediaAreEvil television lies and sucks people's life away]], illegal dumping is wrong, tourists destroy landmarks and towns, lying about historical accuracy is wrong, and [[AWeightyAesop you should eat properly]].
** In "Fitness Fiend",
Dedede gets addicted to snacks and becomes grossly fat, unable to even stand up. This is followed by two characters announcing out loud [[AWeightyAesop this that this is what happens if you only eat snacks snacks]], and [[OldMediaAreEvil stay up all night watching television and television]], while Dedede is being [[HumiliationConga paraded through the town, pointed town and laughed at.at]]. All of this before the episode is even halfway through.
** Kirby was not subtle in general with any of its messages. It tackled the topic of dentristry with the fact that you should brush well or else [[ItMakesSenseInContext little purple men will destroy your teeth from the inside of your mouth]], evil people pollute and destroy the ozone, industry causes acid rain and destroys plant life, its wrong to make a collectible toy line in which every figure doesn't have an equal chance of being found (and thus all would be the same value), television lies and sucks people's life away, illegal dumping is wrong, tourists destroy landmarks and towns, lying about historical accuracy is wrong, you should eat properly, and harpooning whales is evil. Any lesson it had became a focal point of the whole episode and usually was a major part of the entire narrative, the whale episode taking place entirely in the water and on a whale. Furthermore, King Dedede was the one who would cause these problems, making him the scapegoat for "Don't be like this guy" messages.
* ''Manga/{{Life}}'' keeps no subtlety in any of its themes. The whole manga is about a girl who is bullied, and the bullies themselves are two-faced [[{{JerkAss}} Jerkasses]].{{Jerkass}}es.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* ''Manga/FairyTail'': The series is infamous for laying the "friendship solves everything" moral rather thick. While ThePowerOfFriendship is common amongst shonen, ''Fairy Tail'' in particular earns scorn for frequently using the "friendship" speech to have the protagonist pull a HeroicSecondWind to suddenly beat an opponent that was just curb-stomping them moments ago.

to:

* ''Manga/FairyTail'': The series is infamous for laying the "friendship solves everything" moral rather thick. While ThePowerOfFriendship is common amongst shonen, ''Fairy Tail'' in particular earns scorn for frequently using the "friendship" speech to have the protagonist pull a HeroicSecondWind to suddenly beat an opponent that was just curb-stomping them moments ago. It's even {{justified}} in-series by many types of magic receiving a boost in power from willpower and strong emotions, of which friendship is often one of the strongest they draw on.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* ''Manga/FairyTail'': The series is infamous for laying the "friendship solves everything" moral rather thick. While ThePowerOfFriendship is common amongst shonen, ''Fairy Tail'' in particular earns scorn for frequently preaching its importance and rarely teaching anything else.

to:

* ''Manga/FairyTail'': The series is infamous for laying the "friendship solves everything" moral rather thick. While ThePowerOfFriendship is common amongst shonen, ''Fairy Tail'' in particular earns scorn for frequently preaching its importance and rarely teaching anything else.using the "friendship" speech to have the protagonist pull a HeroicSecondWind to suddenly beat an opponent that was just curb-stomping them moments ago.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

** Kirby was not subtle in general with any of its messages. It tackled the topic of dentristry with the fact that you should brush well or else [[ItMakesSenseInContext little purple men will destroy your teeth from the inside of your mouth]], evil people pollute and destroy the ozone, industry causes acid rain and destroys plant life, its wrong to make a collectible toy line in which every figure doesn't have an equal chance of being found (and thus all would be the same value), television lies and sucks people's life away, illegal dumping is wrong, tourists destroy landmarks and towns, lying about historical accuracy is wrong, you should eat properly, and harpooning whales is evil. Any lesson it had became a focal point of the whole episode and usually was a major part of the entire narrative, the whale episode taking place entirely in the water and on a whale. Furthermore, King Dedede was the one who would cause these problems, making him the scapegoat for "Don't be like this guy" messages.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* [[Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross Every]]. [[Anime/MacrossDoYouRememberLove Song]]. [[Anime/MacrossPlus In]]. [[BattleInterruptingShout Every]]. [[Anime/MacrossZero Macross]]. [[Anime/MacrossFrontier Title]]. If you still think ViolenceIsTheOnlyOption, then you're [[TalkingTheMonsterToDeath not paying attention.]]

to:

* [[Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross Every]]. [[Anime/MacrossDoYouRememberLove Song]]. [[Anime/MacrossPlus In]]. [[BattleInterruptingShout Every]]. [[Anime/MacrossZero Macross]].Single]]. ''Anime/{{Macross}}''. [[Anime/MacrossFrontier Title]]. If you still think ViolenceIsTheOnlyOption, then you're [[TalkingTheMonsterToDeath not paying attention.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* ''Anime/EarthMaidenArjuna'' is the anime version of ''CaptainPlanet'' (see below), with the superhero replaced with a MagicalGirl as with more psychological angst.

to:

* ''Anime/EarthMaidenArjuna'' is the anime version of ''CaptainPlanet'' ''WesternAnimation/{{Captain Planet|and the Planeteers}}'' (see below), with the superhero replaced with a MagicalGirl as with more psychological angst.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** So many examples: Angelise herself in the ''very first'' episode, Zola, Rosalie, Hilda, [[spoiler:Julio, Jill and finished with Embryo.]]

to:

** So many examples: Angelise herself in the ''very first'' episode, Zola, Rosalie, Hilda, [[spoiler:Julio, Jill Jill, the ''entire Mana society'' and finished with Embryo.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* The most notable one is ''Anime/CrossAnge'', ''never ever'' mistreat anyone or anything, whether it's one person or an entire race, ''especially'' if it's ForTheEvulz, [[GreenEyedMonster jealousy]] or placing them as TheScapegoat. Otherwise, [[LaserGuidedKarma you're as good]] [[KarmicDeath as dead]] [[TheDogBitesBack by the same person or people.]]
** So many examples: Angelise herself in the ''very first'' episode, Zola, Rosalie, Hilda, [[spoiler:Julio, Jill and finished with Embryo.]]

Added: 2493

Changed: 1875

Removed: 2397

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* ''Anime/EarthMaidenArjuna'' is the anime version of ''CaptainPlanet'' (see below), with the superhero replaced with a MagicalGirl as with more psychological angst.

to:

* ''Anime/EarthMaidenArjuna'' ''Anime/AyakashiAyashi'' is the anime version of ''CaptainPlanet'' (see below), pretty unsubtle about telling people to stop daydreaming and focus exclusively on real life. It's about giant monsters coming to life when someone is dissatisfied with living in a CrapsackWorld.
* To sum up,
the superhero replaced with a MagicalGirl as with more psychological angst.writers of ''Anime/{{Blassreiter}}'' would like you to know that anyone who is mean to immigrants is pure evil, the media is full of idiot sensationalists, and if God is there He does not like you.



* ''Manga/DeathNote'' gives hints that having the power to kill humans (simply by knowing their name and face) is bad, though it only heavily goes the "It's really bad" route in the final stretch of the story.
* ''Anime/EarthMaidenArjuna'' is the anime version of ''CaptainPlanet'' (see below), with the superhero replaced with a MagicalGirl as with more psychological angst.
* ''Manga/FairyTail'': The series is infamous for laying the "friendship solves everything" moral rather thick. While ThePowerOfFriendship is common amongst shonen, ''Fairy Tail'' in particular earns scorn for frequently preaching its importance and rarely teaching anything else.



* In an episode of the ''VideoGame/{{Kirby}}'' [[Anime/KirbyOfTheStars anime]], Dedede gets addicted to snacks and becomes grossly fat, unable to even stand up. This is followed by two characters announcing out loud that this is what happens if you only eat snacks and stay up all night watching television and Dedede being paraded through the town, pointed and laughed at. All of this before the episode is even halfway through.
* The {{Aesoptinum}} factor of ''Anime/SoukouNoStrain'' is made particularly obvious when [[spoiler:not only is the research conducted on harmless aliens, but they look and act like little girls and anesthetic doesn't work on them. So every time one is dissected, they're being brutally tortured and the scientists just shrug and figure 'Hey, they'll get used to it eventually.']]

to:

* In an episode of the ''VideoGame/{{Kirby}}'' [[Anime/KirbyOfTheStars anime]], ''Anime/KirbyOfTheStars'', Dedede gets addicted to snacks and becomes grossly fat, unable to even stand up. This is followed by two characters announcing out loud that this is what happens if you only eat snacks and stay up all night watching television and Dedede being paraded through the town, pointed and laughed at. All of this before the episode is even halfway through.
* ''Manga/{{Life}}'' keeps no subtlety in any of its themes. The {{Aesoptinum}} factor of ''Anime/SoukouNoStrain'' whole manga is made particularly obvious when [[spoiler:not only about a girl who is the research conducted on harmless aliens, but they look and act like little girls and anesthetic doesn't work on them. So every time one is dissected, they're being brutally tortured bullied, and the scientists just shrug bullies themselves are two-faced [[{{JerkAss}} Jerkasses]].
* The author of ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' can't seem to be subtle about the whole "REVENGE IS BAD" thing, to the point that, until he kick-started the big war event, it took over the story. To make it worse, he seems to have equated revenge with a fully-justified desire to see someone punished for their crimes.
** Be loyal to your village no matter what you do because it means becoming a sociopathic monster
and figure 'Hey, they'll get used trying to have ambitions other than the welfare of the village is evil and must be punished.
** Which is turned into a BrokenAesop, as Shikamaru was portrayed as perfectly justified in seeking revenge against Hidan and Kakuzu. Even if you try to find some explanation for this, the fact that revenge is portrayed bad only for when the target is an [[JerkSue Uchiha]] means such anvilicous aesop is already broken anyway.
** By leaving someone in a state of continuous torture, until death... Convenient...
*** By planning to go missing-nin, which only didn't happen because Kakashi spoke up for him and his teammates. And
it eventually.']]would have resulted in the deaths of Chouji, Ino, and Kakashi against Kakuzu had Naruto not conveniently shown up with his new DangerousForbiddenTechnique.
* The [[GainaxEnding infamous final two episodes]] of ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'' are an {{Anvilicious}} AuthorFilibuster on the [[DysfunctionJunction rather extensive psychological issues]] of the main cast (particularly those of Shinji Ikari), as well as a discussion of how some people avoid human contact out of fear of being hurt by others. [[SarcasmMode Apparently we had not already seen enough of how screwed up the cast was]].



* To sum up, the writers of ''Anime/{{Blassreiter}}'' would like you to know that anyone who is mean to immigrants is pure evil, the media is full of idiot sensationalists, and if God is there He does not like you.
* The [[GainaxEnding infamous final two episodes]] of ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'' are an {{Anvilicious}} AuthorFilibuster on the [[DysfunctionJunction rather extensive psychological issues]] of the main cast (particularly those of Shinji Ikari), as well as a discussion of how some people avoid human contact out of fear of being hurt by others. [[SarcasmMode Apparently we had not already seen enough of how screwed up the cast was]].

to:

* To sum up, the writers of ''Anime/{{Blassreiter}}'' would like you to know that anyone who is mean to immigrants is pure evil, the media is full of idiot sensationalists, and if God is there He does not like you.
* The [[GainaxEnding infamous final two episodes]] {{Aesoptinum}} factor of ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'' are an {{Anvilicious}} AuthorFilibuster on ''Anime/StrainStrategicArmoredInfantry'' is made particularly obvious when [[spoiler:not only is the [[DysfunctionJunction rather extensive psychological issues]] of the main cast (particularly those of Shinji Ikari), as well as a discussion of how some people avoid human contact out of fear of research conducted on harmless aliens, but they look and act like little girls and anesthetic doesn't work on them. So every time one is dissected, they're being hurt by others. [[SarcasmMode Apparently we had brutally tortured and the scientists just shrug and figure 'Hey, they'll get used to it eventually.']]
* [[Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross Every]]. [[Anime/MacrossDoYouRememberLove Song]]. [[Anime/MacrossPlus In]]. [[BattleInterruptingShout Every]]. [[Anime/MacrossZero Macross]]. [[Anime/MacrossFrontier Title]]. If you still think ViolenceIsTheOnlyOption, then you're [[TalkingTheMonsterToDeath
not already seen enough of how screwed up the cast was]].paying attention.]]



* The author of ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' can't seem to be subtle about the whole "REVENGE IS BAD" thing, to the point that, until he kick-started the big war event, it took over the story. To make it worse, he seems to have equated revenge with a fully-justified desire to see someone punished for their crimes.
** Be loyal to your village no matter what you do because it means becoming a sociopathic monster and trying to have ambitions other than the welfare of the village is evil and must be punished.
** Which is turned into a BrokenAesop, as Shikamaru was portrayed as perfectly justified in seeking revenge against Hidan and Kakuzu. Even if you try to find some explanation for this, the fact that revenge is portrayed bad only for when the target is an [[JerkSue Uchiha]] means such anvilicous aesop is already broken anyway.
** By leaving someone in a state of continuous torture, until death... Convenient...
*** By planning to go missing-nin, which only didn't happen because Kakashi spoke up for him and his teammates. And it would have resulted in the deaths of Chouji, Ino, and Kakashi against Kakuzu had Naruto not conveniently shown up with his new DangerousForbiddenTechnique.
* ''Anime/AyakashiAyashi'' is pretty unsubtle about telling people to stop daydreaming and focus exclusively on real life. It's about giant monsters coming to life when someone is dissatisfied with living in a CrapsackWorld.
* [[Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross Every]]. [[Anime/MacrossDoYouRememberLove Song]]. [[Anime/MacrossPlus In]]. [[BattleInterruptingShout Every]]. [[Anime/MacrossZero Macross]]. [[Anime/MacrossFrontier Title]]. If you still think ViolenceIsTheOnlyOption, then you're [[TalkingTheMonsterToDeath not paying attention.]]
* ''Manga/{{Life}}'' keeps no subtlety in any of its themes. The whole manga is about a girl who is bullied, and the bullies themselves are two-faced [[{{JerkAss}} Jerkasses]].
* ''Manga/DeathNote'' gives hints that having the power to kill humans (simply by knowing their name and face) is bad, though it only heavily goes the "It's really bad" route in the final stretch of the story.
* ''Manga/FairyTail'': The series is infamous for laying the "friendship solves everything" moral rather thick. While ThePowerOfFriendship is common amongst shonen, ''Fairy Tail'' in particular earns scorn for frequently preaching its importance and rarely teaching anything else.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None



to:

* ''Manga/FairyTail'': The series is infamous for laying the "friendship solves everything" moral rather thick. While ThePowerOfFriendship is common amongst shonen, ''Fairy Tail'' in particular earns scorn for frequently preaching its importance and rarely teaching anything else.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* In ''LightNovel/ZeroNoTsukaima'', the episode in which [[spoiler:Mr. Colbert]] dies was a ''very'' thinly veiled message about why war is bad, the entire second season being about how WarIsHell.

to:

* In ''LightNovel/ZeroNoTsukaima'', ''LightNovel/TheFamiliarOfZero'', the episode in which [[spoiler:Mr. Colbert]] dies was a ''very'' thinly veiled message about why war is bad, the entire second season being about how WarIsHell.

Changed: 234

Removed: 428

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Revenge is already a broken aesop through other reasons


* [[Manga/{{Naruto}} Masashi Kishimoto]] can't seem to be subtle about the whole "REVENGE IS BAD" thing, to the point that, until he kick-started the big war event, it took over the story. To make it worse, he seems to have equated revenge with a fully-justified desire to see someone punished for their crimes.

to:

* [[Manga/{{Naruto}} Masashi Kishimoto]] The author of ''Manga/{{Naruto}}'' can't seem to be subtle about the whole "REVENGE IS BAD" thing, to the point that, until he kick-started the big war event, it took over the story. To make it worse, he seems to have equated revenge with a fully-justified desire to see someone punished for their crimes.



** Which is turned into a BrokenAesop, as Shikamaru was portrayed as perfectly justified in seeking revenge against Hidan and Kakuzu.
*** Although, if one sees it in a different way, revenge was likely portrayed as bad because it drove Sasuke insane with it and caused him to [[FaceHeelTurn turn from friend to foe]] (to the extent that he became more than willing to kill even his own comrades) and, in Shikamaru's case, it is portrayed positively because it is more like justice being done, that, and Shikamaru didn't allow his desire for revenge to take over.

to:

** Which is turned into a BrokenAesop, as Shikamaru was portrayed as perfectly justified in seeking revenge against Hidan and Kakuzu.
*** Although,
Kakuzu. Even if one sees it in a different way, you try to find some explanation for this, the fact that revenge was likely portrayed as bad because it drove Sasuke insane with it and caused him to [[FaceHeelTurn turn from friend to foe]] (to the extent that he became more than willing to kill even his own comrades) and, in Shikamaru's case, it is portrayed positively because it is more like justice being done, that, and Shikamaru didn't allow his desire bad only for revenge to take over.when the target is an [[JerkSue Uchiha]] means such anvilicous aesop is already broken anyway.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None



to:

* ''Manga/DeathNote'' gives hints that having the power to kill humans (simply by knowing their name and face) is bad, though it only heavily goes the "It's really bad" route in the final stretch of the story.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

*** By planning to go missing-nin, which only didn't happen because Kakashi spoke up for him and his teammates. And it would have resulted in the deaths of Chouji, Ino, and Kakashi against Kakuzu had Naruto not conveniently shown up with his new DangerousForbiddenTechnique.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Anvilivious is about unsubtle moral messages in a narrative. While these examples fit the \"lacking subtlety\" requirement, they don\'t appear to have anything to do with moral messages at all.


* In the ''VisualNovel/{{CLANNAD}}'' anime, the opening scene contains protagonist Okazaki encountering [[FirstGirlWins a strange, beautiful girl]] at the bottom of a hill on the way to school, facing the uphill with [[CueTheSun the morning sun shining at her face]] and a DramaticWind with about a million CherryBlossoms blows through the scene as the camera takes its cue to focus almost exclusively on her. The fact that some viewers ''still'' attempted shipping after that display may speak towards the fact that they may not have been heavy-handed ''enough''.
* In ''Manga/HayateTheCombatButler'''s second season; admittedly it focuses a lot on Hinagiku, but just in case you didn't get the clue that she likes Hayate, the entire end theme is making it sure. Granted that that's focused on a lot in the chapters that're covered, but it continued to play it several weeks after most anime that season had already switched to their 'third' ending. Then again, this comes from THE [[JCStaff animation studio]] that has turned PanderingToTheBase into a form of life and Hinagiku's the EnsembleDarkHorse.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* ''Anime/DancougarNova'' got pretty {{Anvilicious}} in one episode, which made oblique references to the War on Terror being fought solely over oil, and featuring [[{{Eagleland}} a nearly rabid, transparently American commander]] crushing the titular robot while declaring that because his nation is strong, it gets to decide what justice is.

to:

* ''Anime/DancougarNova'' got pretty {{Anvilicious}} in one episode, which made oblique references to the War on Terror being fought solely over oil, and featuring [[{{Eagleland}} a nearly rabid, transparently American commander]] crushing the titular robot while declaring that [[MightMakesRight because his nation is strong, it gets to decide what justice is.is]].



** Another repeated message from 00 is that the only way to peace is through understanding others. It is repeated twice in the film's postcredits scene.

to:

** Another repeated message from 00 ''00'' is that the only way to peace is through understanding others. It is repeated twice in the film's postcredits scene.



** As said above, ''Gundam'' has dropped many anvils over its span. However, there is one common anvil that transcends each series: "If we all understand each other, we can all stop fighting, get along and be happy." This theme has existed since the first series (as it was the basis of Zeon Daikun's Newtype theory) and has been carried over the rest of UC (all the way to ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamUnicorn Gundam Unicorn]]'') and even further into the [[AlternateUniverse AUs]]; among the latter, only ''[[MobileFighterGGundam G Gundam]]'' subverts the message due to its kung fu action movie theme[[note]]which essentially claims understanding can only be achieved ''through'' fighting[[/note]]. Alongside, said message is usually presented as the basis of the resident universe's telepaths and their purpose; this is especially the case with the Innovators of ''Gundam 00''[[note]]in which Setsuna's ultimate attack is causing spontaneously generated telepathy among those in range so that automatic understanding can be achieved[[/note]] and the X-Rounders of ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamAGE Gundam AGE]]''[[note]]which was the whole reason Kio went through the [[FanNickname Vagan Magical Mystery Tour]] arc[[/note]].

to:

** As said above, ''Gundam'' has dropped many anvils over its span. However, there is one common anvil that transcends each series: "If we all understand each other, we can all stop fighting, get along and be happy." This theme has existed since the first series (as it was the basis of Zeon Daikun's Newtype theory) and has been carried over the rest of UC (all the way to ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamUnicorn Gundam Unicorn]]'') and even further into the [[AlternateUniverse AUs]]; among the latter, only ''[[MobileFighterGGundam ''[[Anime/MobileFighterGGundam G Gundam]]'' subverts the message due to its kung fu action movie theme[[note]]which essentially claims understanding can only be achieved ''through'' fighting[[/note]]. Alongside, said message is usually presented as the basis of the resident universe's telepaths and their purpose; this is especially the case with the Innovators of ''Gundam 00''[[note]]in which Setsuna's ultimate attack is causing spontaneously generated telepathy among those in range so that automatic understanding can be achieved[[/note]] and the X-Rounders of ''[[Anime/MobileSuitGundamAGE Gundam AGE]]''[[note]]which was the whole reason Kio went through the [[FanNickname Vagan Magical Mystery Tour]] arc[[/note]].



* In an episode of the ''VideoGame/{{Kirby}}'' [[KirbyOfTheStars anime]], Dedede gets addicted to snacks and becomes grossly fat, unable to even stand up. This is followed by two characters announcing out loud that this is what happens if you only eat snacks and stay up all night watching television and Dedede being paraded through the town, pointed and laughed at. All of this before the episode is even halfway through.
* The {{Aesoptinum}} factor of ''SoukouNoStrain'' is made particularly obvious when [[spoiler:not only is the research conducted on harmless aliens, but they look and act like little girls and anesthetic doesn't work on them. So every time one is dissected, they're being brutally tortured and the scientists just shrug and figure 'Hey, they'll get used to it eventually.']]

to:

* In an episode of the ''VideoGame/{{Kirby}}'' [[KirbyOfTheStars [[Anime/KirbyOfTheStars anime]], Dedede gets addicted to snacks and becomes grossly fat, unable to even stand up. This is followed by two characters announcing out loud that this is what happens if you only eat snacks and stay up all night watching television and Dedede being paraded through the town, pointed and laughed at. All of this before the episode is even halfway through.
* The {{Aesoptinum}} factor of ''SoukouNoStrain'' ''Anime/SoukouNoStrain'' is made particularly obvious when [[spoiler:not only is the research conducted on harmless aliens, but they look and act like little girls and anesthetic doesn't work on them. So every time one is dissected, they're being brutally tortured and the scientists just shrug and figure 'Hey, they'll get used to it eventually.']]



* To sum up, the writers of ''{{Blassreiter}}'' would like you to know that anyone who is mean to immigrants is pure evil, the media is full of idiot sensationalists, and if God is there He does not like you.

to:

* To sum up, the writers of ''{{Blassreiter}}'' ''Anime/{{Blassreiter}}'' would like you to know that anyone who is mean to immigrants is pure evil, the media is full of idiot sensationalists, and if God is there He does not like you.



*** Although, if one sees it in a different way, revenge was likely portrayed as bad because it drove Sasuke insane with it and caused him to turn from friend to foe (to the extent that he more than willing to kill even comrades) and, in Shikamaru's case, it is portrayed positively because it is more like justice being done, that, and Shikamaru didn't allow his desire for revenge to take over.
** By leaving someone in a state of continous torture, until death... Convenient...
* ''AyakashiAyashi'' is pretty unsubtle about telling people to stop daydreaming and focus exclusively on real life. It's about giant monsters coming to life when someone is dissatisfied with living in a CrapsackWorld.
* [[SuperDimensionFortressMacross Every]]. [[Anime/MacrossDoYouRememberLove Song]]. [[MacrossPlus In]]. [[BattleInterruptingShout Every]]. [[MacrossZero Macross]]. [[MacrossFrontier Title]]. If you still think ViolenceIsTheOnlyOption, then you're [[TalkingTheMonsterToDeath not paying attention.]]

to:

*** Although, if one sees it in a different way, revenge was likely portrayed as bad because it drove Sasuke insane with it and caused him to [[FaceHeelTurn turn from friend to foe foe]] (to the extent that he became more than willing to kill even his own comrades) and, in Shikamaru's case, it is portrayed positively because it is more like justice being done, that, and Shikamaru didn't allow his desire for revenge to take over.
** By leaving someone in a state of continous continuous torture, until death... Convenient...
* ''AyakashiAyashi'' ''Anime/AyakashiAyashi'' is pretty unsubtle about telling people to stop daydreaming and focus exclusively on real life. It's about giant monsters coming to life when someone is dissatisfied with living in a CrapsackWorld.
* [[SuperDimensionFortressMacross [[Anime/SuperDimensionFortressMacross Every]]. [[Anime/MacrossDoYouRememberLove Song]]. [[MacrossPlus [[Anime/MacrossPlus In]]. [[BattleInterruptingShout Every]]. [[MacrossZero [[Anime/MacrossZero Macross]]. [[MacrossFrontier [[Anime/MacrossFrontier Title]]. If you still think ViolenceIsTheOnlyOption, then you're [[TalkingTheMonsterToDeath not paying attention.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

** By leaving someone in a state of continous torture, until death... Convenient...
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
This comes off strongly as a justifying edit.


* The [[GainaxEnding infamous final two episodes]] of ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'' are an {{Anvilicious}} AuthorFilibuster on the [[DysfunctionJunction rather extensive psychological issues]] of the main cast (particularly those of Shinji Ikari), as well as a discussion of how some people avoid human contact out of fear of being hurt by others. [[SarcasmMode Apparently we had not already seen enough of how screwed up the cast was]]. However heavy the anvil is, it is justified in that the characters reap what they've sown psychologically.

to:

* The [[GainaxEnding infamous final two episodes]] of ''Anime/NeonGenesisEvangelion'' are an {{Anvilicious}} AuthorFilibuster on the [[DysfunctionJunction rather extensive psychological issues]] of the main cast (particularly those of Shinji Ikari), as well as a discussion of how some people avoid human contact out of fear of being hurt by others. [[SarcasmMode Apparently we had not already seen enough of how screwed up the cast was]]. However heavy the anvil is, it is justified in that the characters reap what they've sown psychologically.
Willbyr MOD

Changed: 12

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* Arguably, the whole point of ''SaiKano'' is to drop a 13-episode KillEmAll anvil of WarIsHell. For everyone, not just soldiers.

to:

* Arguably, the whole point of ''SaiKano'' ''Manga/{{Saikano}}'' is to drop a 13-episode KillEmAll anvil of WarIsHell. For everyone, not just soldiers.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* In ''[[InazumaEleven Inazuma Eleven GO]]'', "Free soccer is real and fun, strategic soccer is false and evil." We get it already.

to:

* In ''[[InazumaEleven Inazuma Eleven GO]]'', "Free soccer is real and fun, strategic soccer is false and evil." We get it already.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* In ''[[InazumaEleven Inazuma Eleven GO]]'', "Free soccer is fun, strategic soccer is evil." We get it already.

to:

* In ''[[InazumaEleven Inazuma Eleven GO]]'', "Free soccer is real and fun, strategic soccer is false and evil." We get it already.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* In ''[[InazumaEleven Inazuma Eleven GO]]'', free soccer is fun, and strategic soccer is evil. We get it already.

to:

* In ''[[InazumaEleven Inazuma Eleven GO]]'', free "Free soccer is fun, and strategic soccer is evil. evil." We get it already.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* ''[[InazumaEleven Inazuma Eleven GO]]'', free soccer is fun, strategic soccer is evil. We get it already.

to:

* In ''[[InazumaEleven Inazuma Eleven GO]]'', free soccer is fun, and strategic soccer is evil. We get it already.

Top