Video Game The Legend Of Zelda Skyward Sword Discussion

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09:51:04 PM Jul 4th 2012
I removed this from the page:

  • Franchise Killer: And then some. This game was meant to serve as a Milestone Celebration, but both its unprecedentedly negative fan reaction and the whole controversy regarding the reveal of the timeline have darkened the franchise's future. Like Sonic 2006, no less (it was meant to celebrate the 15th anniversary of Sonic, .... yeah).

... Is this some kind of joke?
06:50:34 AM Jul 5th 2012

What truly baffles me is that someone can call this game a franchise killer when Nintendo has already announced they're working on the next Zelda game.
09:01:03 AM Jul 5th 2012
Haters gonna hate. Maybe trying to invoke Based on a Great Big Lie to get others to hate it too.
11:08:28 PM Feb 16th 2012
Must we refer to Fi as "it"? It feels like we're labeling her as an object rather than a character ("It" Is Dehumanizing?), and since Ghirahim is generally referred to as "he" despite Word of God declaring him equally sexless, I don't see why we can't just use "she" for Fi.
08:07:41 PM Dec 12th 2013
Fi IS referred to as "Mistress Fi" by Scrapper, and I don't think she's ever referred to by any pronouns in game. Personally, I agree.
09:52:40 PM Jan 3rd 2012
Non-trope-related question about this example...

  • The Dev Team Thinks of Everything:
    • Mixed with Crazy-Prepared, but if you somehow grab a bottle of Sacred Water before your meeting with Faron, Fi will skip the dowsing nonsense and tell you that you already have what you need, saving you the trouble of talking with Faron again.

Does anyone know what point in the game this is even possible? After my first trip through the Skyview Temple, I went over to the exact spot I had gotten the sacred water on the previous playthrough, but every attempt to bottle some up for later just resulted in getting normal water. I even tried a few other similar-looking spots just in case.
08:08:30 PM Dec 12th 2013
It's only possible by hacking. The water won't turn into Sacred Water until you talk to Faron.
10:50:54 PM Jan 1st 2012
Say can anyone put up the trope high octane nightmare fuel considering how the silent realm is when the guardians are chasing you

02:42:15 AM Jan 2nd 2012
Nightmare fuel? Maybe. Sure as heck not High Octane, though...
08:56:29 AM Dec 27th 2011
edited by ShadowDragoonFTW
Someone referred to the Silent Realm Guardians as Demonic Spiders under the Leitmotif entry. I...really don't think they qualify. —They also mark them as such in the "Turn Red" trope entry.
09:02:29 AM Dec 27th 2011
How so?
10:02:49 AM Dec 27th 2011
"these are the guys which will defeat you over and over again using tactics that just seem unfair at times" "The defining trait of Demonic Spiders is that they are random or common"

— They really aren't that common of an enemy. It's a really big deal when you get to a point where you KNOW you're going to face them. Also, it's not so much they "randomly show up and kill you with extreme cheap mechanics", which is what the trope is all about. It's a pretty blatant challenge, and an easy one as long as you're cautious.
05:20:19 PM Nov 30th 2011
Mythology Gag is getting long - could someone make a subpage for it whether that or Shout-Out?
07:36:50 AM Dec 1st 2011
edited by Dawnwing
Here you go.

EDIT: Thanks, Golden Darkness, for moving it to the correct namespace.
04:20:12 PM Dec 1st 2011
Thanks a bunch! <3
05:18:49 AM Nov 25th 2011
"Motifs: The plot would make more sense if you look at the Motifs in a different angle: square, diamond, triangle. Get it now?"

Umm... no? Can someone who understands what this is trying to say please explain this example better.
10:19:43 AM Dec 5th 2011
I second that, though I think that one of them has to do with the fact that Ghirahim's teleportation always is accompanied by these colored diamond shapes. But I have no clue for the other two.
03:21:55 PM Dec 12th 2011
Yeah, Ghirahim has a pretty big diamond theme going on. I suppose you could say at a stretch that since Zelda's bracelets and hair thingies have triangle patterns that the triangles go with her, but I can't see any sort of connection between Link and squares.
11:55:41 AM Dec 13th 2011
The triangles on Zelda's bracelets and hair thingies are images of the Triforce, which are everywhere, so I wouldn't say it's really her Motif.
01:46:00 PM Jun 8th 2011
Where is all this information about the villain coming from? Please provide a link!
05:34:21 PM Jun 8th 2011
It's E3, so there's tons of information pouring out of every orifice. Just searching "legend of zelda" on Google will yield major news sites.
05:41:56 PM Jun 8th 2011
Well I figured it was coming from E3 sources, but so far I haven't been able to find them.
06:54:37 PM Jun 8th 2011
Ok, I found a video that included all the dialogue before the boss fight.
04:40:58 AM Nov 16th 2011
There's at least one full playthrough of the game on Youtube already.
09:20:00 PM Mar 16th 2011
Can someone confirm that Skyward Sword is coming out after Ocarina of Time 3D? I've heard it, but I've not heard any OFFICIAL statement regarding that.
02:58:42 PM May 1st 2011
If I recall the article correctly, the statement was that we shouldn't expect Skyward Sword to be released before OoT3D. All we (or at least I) know is that SS is in its final stages of development. Who knows, maybe this years E3 will show something.
03:33:54 AM Jun 16th 2010
Hey, guys? Can we please lighten up on the natter? Not to be a Devil's Advocate, but certain fans' disliking of the game for whatever reason is not the end of the world and logic as we know it...
01:28:46 PM Jun 16th 2010
edited by MeikyuButterfly
It's just that it's starting to appraoch Wind Waker levels of bashing with an alarming speed and somebody (like this incredibly popular website) needs to point out how stupid this is. Otherwise, every chance of the situation not escalating like back then is lost.

At least that's my opinion.
09:46:03 PM Jun 16th 2010
The hatred itself is notible considering how quickly it reached "Worst Ever" status. And since we have several tropes dedicated to this sort of thing (Fan Dumb, It's The Same/They Changed It Now It Sucks, Complaining About Shows You Don't Watch, ect) we might as well post examples.
07:55:30 PM Jun 17th 2010
edited by BlueHighwind
Why is it that TV Tropes is always so keen on focusing on the very WORST of every single fandom for every single topic. If you applied this sort of distorted viewpoint to the Bible, you'd find yourself writing an article about nothing but loony self-righteous atheists who paradoxically also hate God the profess to not believe in, instead of the millions, no billions who have found inspiration, spiritual fulfillment, and guidance from the text. It distorts the true opinions of the majority of fans. I don't know where you guys find these people, but they're not a representative of the entirety of Zelda fans, or even just a small segment of extreme Zelda fans. They're just morons, probably lone morons as well. Its not a vocal minority - its a vocal solidarity. One guy says "I liked the Twilight Princess art style better" and suddenly he represents the entire Zelda fanbase, who are further distorted to be described as foaming at the mouths in rage and tearing their eyes out to not look at the wretched screenshots ever again. If TV Tropes is to believed, most Zelda fans hate every single game made since Ocarina of Time. And you know that can't be true: look at the number of units sold. If the series was so despised, it would have ended years ago instead of being the most beloved video game franchise of all time next to Mario.

My point is: most fans of the games aren't on the forums, okay? And even then, most of the forum posters aren't the idiots TV tropes so focuses upon.
08:12:57 PM Jun 17th 2010
I hate Jar Jar Binks, that must mean I believe he exists!
04:19:16 PM Dec 26th 2010
Hate to disagree, but no, these fans are not a vocal minority/solidarity, they are freaking everywhere. I see them in every gaming community I touch. These tropes deserve their places in the page.
12:36:45 AM Mar 5th 2011
Couldn't we just use the "Just Bugs Me" page to complain that the fandom's reaction just bugs me (us)?
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