Music Kidz Bop Discussion

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CartmanCheesyPoofs
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01:41:06 AM Aug 19th 2016
Would the whole Billboard Hot 100 #1 hits and Top 10 overview be eligible to be moved to an Analysis page? It seems like it could go on forever.
Spinosegnosaurus77
06:23:37 AM Aug 19th 2016
I think it would be a good idea.
CartmanCheesyPoofs
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06:49:56 PM Aug 13th 2016
edited by CartmanCheesyPoofs
Am I the only one that feels like the Age-Inappropriate Art songs that only list the title need explainations as to why they're inapproriate song choices? (eg. Usher's "Burn", Hoobastank's "The Reason", Justin Timberlake's "Suit And Tie".)

I'm not saying that some of these aren't inappropriate song choices, but still.
Spinosegnosaurus77
06:50:52 PM Aug 13th 2016
I'd agree.
CartmanCheesyPoofs
05:56:58 PM Aug 17th 2016
edited by CartmanCheesyPoofs
Also are there any songs that need to be removed from the Age-Inappropriate Art section due to not being that inappropriate, and do you think there are any explainations that need to be rephrased?
Spinosegnosaurus77
06:55:57 PM Aug 17th 2016
Off the top of my head, you can probably remove "Burn".
CartmanCheesyPoofs
06:47:08 AM Aug 18th 2016
Done and done. Aside from that, are there any explainations that should be shortened or changed due to containing Natter? I think some of the explainations need rephrasing.

Also Bowdlerise could potentially get its own page. That's basically the point of Kidz Bop and this trope seems to be taking up half of the page.

Also I don't some of the Age-Inappropriate Art entries. Some of them use their objectionable lyrics as explainations (eg. "Love Me Harder", "Cruise") which usually get changed.
Larkmarn
06:30:06 AM Aug 19th 2016
edited by Larkmarn
Yeah, keep in mind that for Age-Inappropriate Art, if the songs are Bowdlerized to the point of being age-appropriate, they're no longer an example of the trope.

I'm commenting out Zero Context Examples and cutting non-examples and moving those here:

  • Cee Lo Green's "Forget You!". Thankfully, they use the radio-edited version, but the explicit version is literally called "Fuck You!" and has several instances of the N and S-Words.
  • Gorillaz's "Feel Good Inc.", which includes lyrics such as "Melancholy town where we never smile" that they DO NOT CHANGE.
    • Okay, I cut this because this is frankly ridiculous. That's a lyric that's about as offensive as a Dr. Seuss rhyme
  • Wiz Khalifa's "See You Again." Yup, Kidz Bop singing about death. Just what we needed.
    • It's a song about saying good bye to a dear friend. Yes, it's written in tribute to a dead guy, but that's irrelevant.
  • "Thrift Shop" is the first song on "24". Yes, that "Thrift Shop". You know, the one that contains excessive swearing throughout alongside him bragging about his genitalia to the club...
    • '''Does he say that in the Kidz Bop version? No? Then it's irrelevant.
  • Macklemore's "Downtown". It's basically the sequel to "Thrift Shop", combined with "Uptown Funk!": It contains excessive swearing, a mention of his genitalia, and lyrics like "A bad little mama with her ass in my face!".
    • Except I'm assuming that, you know, it doesn't.

Spinosegnosaurus77
08:06:58 AM Aug 19th 2016
I fixed all the ZCEs.
CartmanCheesyPoofs
03:15:26 PM Aug 19th 2016
edited by CartmanCheesyPoofs
So basically strong language doesn't matter in songs anymore if Kidz Bop finds a way to work around it, right?

What about if the original version of a song has an explicit title (eg. Cee Lo Green's "Forget You!" notably being titled "Fuck You!").
Spinosegnosaurus77
03:16:35 PM Aug 19th 2016
In that case, should all the examples be cut?
CartmanCheesyPoofs
03:18:48 PM Aug 19th 2016
edited by CartmanCheesyPoofs
@Spinosegnosaurus 77 Can the Zero Context Examples be re-entered if they contain explainations as to why they're inappropriate?
Spinosegnosaurus77
03:22:02 PM Aug 19th 2016
Correct.
SamMax
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11:38:33 PM Apr 10th 2016
edited by SamMax
Why does it feel like the Age-Inappropriate Art area could make its own page? I'm not saying it needs to, only that it feels like it could.

But that's just me.

Bowdlerize fits even more. Yikes!
Larkmarn
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11:22:14 AM Nov 3rd 2015
Hey, guys? Bowdlerization is specifically about editing the material to clean it up. It's not "a change to the material." This incidental lyric changes, or changes from someone's name to "Kidz Bop" are not instances of this.
Spinosegnosaurus77
01:39:14 PM Nov 3rd 2015
I've been told that the offender is in for a chat.
Larkmarn
01:50:40 PM Nov 3rd 2015
Ah, I see.

... clearly the same person as Murtropia who did the exact same thing in the past.
SeptimusHeap
11:32:45 PM Nov 3rd 2015
And now they are both on bounce.
Larkmarn
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11:44:15 AM Nov 18th 2014
edited by 156.33.241.6
Okay, so I pulled Unexpected Song for a few reasons. First off, it's potholed to Unexpected Character, which isn't allowed. Secondly... it seems pretty Square Peg Round Trope, and I feel like that requires some discussion. And lastly, the entries are just... odd. They're mostly Zero Context Examples, and some of them make no sense (how is "Fancy" a big surprise? Despite the subject matter, it was a huge song with a catchy hook. If you're still surprised by them having Age-Inappropriate lyrics by now, that's on you. And "Let It Go"? That's insane). Any genuinely useful information is covered by Age-Inappropriate Art, I feel. Though some of those need to be changed to Bowdlerize.

I'll discuss individual examples if you want, but I'm not going to bother if we decide it's not worth having the trope anyway.

  • Unexpected Song:
    • Kidz Bop 6: "Burn"
    • Kidz Bop 7: "1985" and "Float On"
    • Kidz Bop 8: "Boulevard of Broken Dreams" and "Take Me Out"
    • Kidz Bop 9: "Wake Me Up When September Ends", "Feel Good, Inc." and "Axel F"
    • Kidz Bop 10: "Hung Up"
    • Kidz Bop 11: "A Public Affair" and "Lips of an Angel"
    • Kidz Bop 12: "Home" (remember, "It's Not Over" also made it, so the presence of two Daughtry songs on the same album wasn't something that people could see coming. Since "It's Not Over" was a hit first, its chances were better than "Home"'s.)
    • Kidz Bop 13: "Party Like A Rock Star"
    • Kidz Bop 14: "Sorry", "Superstar" and "Take You There"
    • Kidz Bop 15: "Let It Rock" and "Tell Me Something I Don't Know"
    • Kidz Bop 16: "How Do You Sleep?", "Live Your Life" and "Hoedown Throwdown"
    • Kidz Bop 17: "Paparazzi"
    • Kidz Bop 18: "Single Ladies" (the album came out one and a half years after "Single Ladies" topped the charts; they were probably cashing in the the popularity of the second Alvin & The Chipmunks movie, though.)
    • Kidz Bop 19: "Club Can't Handle Me," "Magic," and "Please Don't Go" (remember, "Airplanes" and "Cooler Than Me" also made it, so the presence of two B.o.B. and Mike Posner songs was unexpected, and since "Airplanes" and "Cooler Than Me" were much bigger hits than their followups, the odds of making it were in their favor). Since Kidz Bop have as of lately allowed no more than one artist each to be covered twice per album, it was quite shocking to see them chose minor B.o.B. and Mike Posner hits. There's also Neon Trees' "Animal," a Mind Screw of a song that's either about drugs/overdose, cannibalism, or not getting over someone. No interpretation is appropriate for children. It may have gotten in because it's ridiculously catchy.
    • Kidz Bop 20: "Forget You" and "Perfect" were the biggest surprises, but "The Story of Us" and "Tonight Tonight" are also notable. The former is a Taylor Swift hit that failed to hit the Hot 100's top 40, while the latter song, by then-unknown band Hot Chelle Rae, would become a huge hit in the summer but never took off until after the track listing was released. (Of, course, had Kidz Bop passed it over for "20," it almost certainly would have made it onto "21.")
    • Kidz Bop 21: "Party Rock Anthem" and "Fly." "It Girl" was quite a shock too, as neither it nor "Fly" were that big of a hit. Chances are, if "Tonight, Tonight" didn't make it onto Kidz Bop 20, it would have taken the spot of either "It Girl" or "Fly" for "21."
    • Kidz Bop 22: "Starships" and "Tonight is the Night" (and, to a lesser degree, "Wild Ones" and "Dance Again"). "Lights," which was an iTunes bonus track, is a unique case, as Kidz Bop jumped on it before it really became a big hit, and there was no time to pull it off the track listing at the last minute and save it for "23."
    • Kidz Bop 23: "Gangnam Style." Nobody thought that Kidz Bop would bother to cover a song sung almost entirely in Korean, but were they wrong. "I Cry", "Locked Out Of Heaven" and "Diamonds" fit to a lesser extent.
    • Kidz Bop 24: "Thrift Shop," "Suit & Tie" and "Don't Stop The Party" (and, to a lesser extent, "I Love It" and "Feel This Moment"). Some of the more surprising omissions include "When I Was Your Man" and "Daylight." "Don't You Worry Child" and "Stay" were also big enough hits to make the main disc, but got relegated to bonus tracks.
    • Kidz Bop 25: "Summertime Sadness" and "The Fox". The former was a shock for reasons stated above; the latter was an Internet meme that got zero airplay.
    • Kidz Bop 26: "Sing" and "Let It Go". The former was surprising for reasons mentioned above; the latter was a song from a Disney animated movie that got little radio airplay.
    • Kidz Bop 27: "Fancy" was the biggest surprise, but "Really Don't Care" and "Cool Kids" are also notable. The former was a Demi Lovato track that failed to reach the Hot 100's top 25; the latter, by then-unknown band Echosmith, would later become a bigger hit, but was just taking off when the track listing was revealed.
mortimermcmire
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01:49:09 PM Apr 5th 2012
Kidz Bop is everything I hate about modern music. Children singing horrible covers of songs they have no business performing, let alone listening to, with lyrics they should never utter.
TauCeti
07:53:17 PM Jun 16th 2015
Man I agree with you. But also this page must use Sarcasm Mode the most.
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