Previous Trope Repair Shop thread: Ambiguous Name
, started by Mr.Movie on Aug 14th 2014 at 11:35:53 PM
Petition to rename this trope to 'God Is A Vicious Two-Faced Prick'
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Theatre/TheTrailToOregon
Can we add a section commenting on the individuals who make this claim of God in real life? Old Testament God was pretty big on smiting, and some claim that there was no excuse for this other than God being a dick. Thought I'd put up the suggestion, and see if there are objections.
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The Bible is a valid trope source, because the Bible is complete fiction at it's worst, and convoluted and ridiculously vague historical account at best.
Indeed. If you can cite Greek Mythology, then you can cite the Torah/Bible/etc.
Hell, just look at Noah's Ark—try proving that to be anything but fiction based on the premise alone.
Yes, but very few people still pray to those gods. Christianity/Judaism/Islam still exist, are actually quite popular, and there are a lot of people who would be offended by the idea that their god might be evil, insane, or fictional. And if TV Tropes pissed off too many people, or maybe even just the wrong people, then where would site revenue come from?
When did I become such a bleeding-heart? I'm the one who shouldn't be caring!
Yeah, sorry, that's not going to fly. Given that if a Christian came along and started using the various pages on gay characters as a place to start a bunch of homophobic screeds, they'd be shouted down for bigotry pretty quickly, I see no reason for someone to use the God is Evil trope as a place to attack Christians, Jews, _or_ Muslims.
For the record, those of us who have done our homework have our solid, factual reasons for regarding the Bible as true and historically accurate, as you would know if you spent a bit of time reading up on the subject. I could tear down any arguments you wanted to make pretty easily, but this isn't the place.
But even if that weren't the case, attacking the beliefs that are held to be real by literally over a third of the world's population on a site dedicated to exploring works of fiction is nothing more than sheer bigotry.
The fact that this didn't end with a simple citation of Rule Of Cautious Editing Judgment perhaps shows that said rule is being applied a little too selectively on the wiki.
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Could Lord Beerus from DBZ Battle of the Gods apply to this trope?
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He's not really The God, but he's just a god. He's a textbook Jerkass God.
Found a Youtube Channel with political stances you want to share? Hop on over to this page and add them.
MagBas
- The Prince of Egypt causes a lot of cognitive dissonance between fans and critics of the film alike. God is depicted in a happier, more benevolent light than in The Ten Commandments. Unfortunately, true to Biblical book of Exodus, he still unleashes the Angel of Death who slays all of the innocent firstborn in Egypt.
Two problems:First, he is portrayed as a good guy in the story(by "portrayed", understand "treated as one"). The main argument that i read about the reason to good/evil tropes not be subjective, in the earlier times of said division between subjective/non-subjective, the reasoning was that this depends of the portrayal; Eragon can be considered a Designated Hero by the audience, but in the context of the story he is The Hero. Second, i guess that list a book of the Bible here as second pseudo-example("true to Biblical book of Exodus") is not a good idea.
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The Demon Slayer
Had to prune a rather rantish little example in Beliefs about double predestination, which Mag Bas promptly deleted. And he or she was right to do so. I don't know who wrote the thing (or the example above it, which I also pruned but am still rather iffy about), but it sounded like they had an agenda.
EDIT: And I just deleted the other example, simply because of the Rule Of Cautious Editing Judgement.
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Does the Exalted example really belong here? It should be in The Gods Must Be Lazy. They didn't create the world, and according to other pages "Glories of the Most High" makes them quite sympathetic, and has the Unconquered Sun forced to start playing the Games against his will.
Edited by ArcadesSabboth Oppression anywhere is a threat to democracy everywhere.
MagBas
- An old Russian play called 'Sacred Blood' inadvertently portrays the Christian God as this. According to the play, which is a religious allegory, humans used to live in a Crapsack World ruled by mermaids and other mythical monsters, who were immortal, while humans were frail, mortal and short-lived. Then one of them rose up, called himself God, loved his people and spilled his blood for them. This gave humans immortal souls, which in the terms of the play meant an afterlife. That's all fine, right? Well, God also STRIPPED ALL OTHER LIVING BEINGS OF SOULS AND MADE THEM MORTAL.
An Alternate Character Interpretation in a non-ymmv trope is totally irrelevant
[[CharClone Dark Komet]]
Can we try Zeus from God Of War He has the looks of a Grandpa God
Edited by HekirekiNoMakai Darkness is The Power of Life
The fundamental problem with this article's laconic page is that you simply can not summarize 'God is Evil' any more. Delete.
Linking to a past Trope Repair Shop thread that dealt with this page: Narrow description which some examples don't fit.
, started by AweStriker on Feb 19th 2011 at 4:40:36 AM
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