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CBanana
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02:40:15 PM Mar 9th 2010
edited by CBanana
I'm thinking of re-hauling this page and here are my major ideas:
  • Working on the first paragraph and maybe splitting it to be more reflective of how the genre is used as shoujo, josei, and seinen as well as the fact there aren't really any shonen yuri animes. (Kashimashi Girl Meets Girl is the only shonen yuri anime I know of)
  • There also should be some mention of how the genre is growing.
  • In the couples paragraph, I'll probably make mention of the Hot For Student pairings since that's another popular yuri pairing although by no means disproportionate to yuri.

In particular, I'm going to challenge the fifth paragraph as there seems to be a lot more canon happy endings nowadays than in the past.

(Warning for spoilers).

A list sorting the anime/manga/video games sections regarding how they treat their main relationship. I'm leaving out series where the main relationship may still yet defined or series that I haven't watched.

The list:

Happy Continuing Relationship or Happy End (20 total)

Bad end (4 total)

Strictly subtext or left wide open (10 total)

So basically 20 (happy confirmed endings) versus 14 (unconfirmed or unhappy endings). Mind you, there are some series particularly in the past that haven't been recorded by Yuri Fan tropers. It does however, make me convinced that the fifth paragraph should be more nuanced of how the yuri genre has evolved from the past since happy canon relationships are more common nowadays.

Let me know if anyone has any thoughts regarding a potential re-haul of the page.
Servbot
02:58:14 PM Mar 9th 2010
edited by Servbot
The Utena one is only confimed happy in the movie, isn't it? The others (TV and manga) end with Utena gone with Anthy either searching for her or not searching for her since she's now with Akio.

And yeah, the list does lean a lot toward the newer stuff. I think Devilman Lady is the oldest one there with Utena's as second oldest? No Oniisama E, Shiroi Heya No Futari, Mayas Funeral Procession, etc.
CBanana
03:04:45 PM Mar 9th 2010
edited by CBanana
I always consider the movie an extension of the TV series and I haven't read the manga. YMMV as always.

I think Oniisama E is the oldest with Devilman Lady as the second oldest.
Servbot
03:08:09 PM Mar 9th 2010
Oniisama E doesn't seem to be listed above.

And... I screwed up. Utena is actually older than Devilman Lady, so our list is just Yuri stuff from the mid-90s and beyond. <<
CBanana
03:09:23 PM Mar 9th 2010
Oniisama E is listed on the main Girls Love page. I just didn't list it in the discussion because I've never seen it.
Servbot
03:13:14 PM Mar 9th 2010
Ah, okay. So yeah. Our oldest is Early 90s. We should probably add more of the stuff from the bad old days to show the shift pre- and post-Utena in regards to general depiction of yuri. <<
CBanana
03:18:30 PM Mar 9th 2010
The older examples will inevitably fill themselves out through Wiki Magic. In a few days, I'll work on the Girls Love description so that it reflects the ideas I proposed. That is of course providing that no major objections to my ideas are posted.
CBanana
10:21:18 PM Mar 25th 2010
Alright, I've made the changes I was talking about. While I appreciate what the creator of this page did, she was a yaoi fan who missed some of the subtleties of the yuri genre so hopefully this fixes it.

P.S. Flame away at me!
Koveras
06:32:12 AM Mar 26th 2010
I kinda missed the whole discussion because it didn't show up on my watchlist, but I think the edits are constructive enough. Happy yuri endings are definitely becoming more common, and it's a good thing, let's celebrate it. ^^

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CBanana
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06:21:32 PM Sep 19th 2010
Subject: Venus Versus Virus

I've only seen a bit of this series but have heard this series suffers from a huge amount of Bait And Switch Lesbians to the point that it's not actually part of the genre. Can anyone confirm or deny this? I may have to take it down simply due to its disputed nature.
Koveras
01:49:50 AM Sep 20th 2010
Have seen the anime, but not the manga, and yes, the anime hardly falls into GL. However, Unknown Troper referred to the manga ending, and the anime was Cut Short and had a Gecko Ending, so I cannot confirm or deny it.

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CBanana
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03:08:12 PM Nov 6th 2010
Re: Wandering Son

I took that series off the Girls Love page because the consensus I've heard from yuri fandom is it's not very yuri. If it was yuri, that series would have gotten a lot more attention since the author also did Aoi Hana.

In the point that was provided, it was self-admitted that the series itself wasn't a good fit. Based on these points, the series should be taken off. The Queer Romance trope looks to be a much better fit for that series assuming there is some focus on romance.

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FunstuffofDoom
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10:17:06 PM May 28th 2011
Why is Downer Ending on this list?

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