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KevinW
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04:09:19 PM Jul 30th 2012
Can someone please edit the link to Dallas so it'll link to the series page?
Bluesunnyday
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12:45:14 PM Oct 6th 2011
Who cut the examples? Were they always gone or did a vandal do this recently?
DragonQuestZ
12:55:14 PM Oct 6th 2011
It was decided a while ago that they were natter bait, and people accusing ANY sort of criticism for being this.
Stoogebie
10:54:09 AM Feb 23rd 2012
It's true. I do think it's best if we play it safe for this one.
MugenKagemaru
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10:13:11 PM Aug 10th 2011
edited by MugenKagemaru
Super Paper Mario has its own page. Please change the link associated with the page image to match this.
DamianYerrick
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05:14:20 AM Sep 26th 2010
Would No Export for You count as a justification?
DragonQuestZ
02:42:49 PM Sep 26th 2010
No, as it's still complaining from ignorance. You'd have to be sure the complaining point is still true, even if it's asking about it or getting a bootleg or import.
BurningBusch
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05:34:55 PM Mar 9th 2010
edited by BurningBusch
the Dance in the Vampire Bund entry is funny. Could the problem be that people tried to read it but were turned off half way though the first issue by the naked 12-year old(don't care what Her real age is). And that's this entire article's problem, Tropers are naming legit complaints about the show and then saying "It's not a big deal too Me, They must not have watched it"
takashi.0
06:51:32 PM Jun 7th 2010
What kind of BS is "No complaining about complaining?"

That's the whole point of the page. Plus, it might convince some Hate Dumb of the series listed that "Wow, this sort of thing really is sturpid. I should actually read/watch/play/whatever this thing before mouthing about it."
FastEddie
moderator
09:35:48 PM Jun 7th 2010
edited by FastEddie
We are never about complaining. Except maybe in Darth Wiki. This just defines a trope. We're not soliciting — or interested in — anyone's complaints.
192.150.10.200
11:39:30 AM Jun 8th 2010
You're working under the preconception that any example of this trope is by definition a complaint. It's a reasonable assumption, given that the name and most of the usage of the term paint the trope itself in a negative light. However, tropes are not bad still applies.

I'll take as an example the first entry from the Films section:
  • All notoriously bad modern movies. Every single one. Few people saw Gigli, Battlefield Earth, Catwoman or any of Uwe Boll's movies (and most professional movie reviewers had to), but everybody makes fun of them.

Now, it's certainly possible to interpret the above as a complaint. If one is of the belief that a movie's quality is entirely in the eye of the beholder, as it were, and that the opinions of reviewers and other customers are meaningless and/or inapplicable, then complaining about or making fun of Gigli, In the Name of the King, or Battlefield Earth (over quality, rather than scientology) would be unjustified. However, if one considers such a movie to be an Acceptable Target (or the film meta-equivalent), then pointing this out would no longer be a complaint.

In summary, if Tropes Are Not Bad, then mentioning tropes is not complaining. Also, any notable aversions, subversions, parodies or other in-universe examples could by no means be considered complaining, although I realize very few have been posted as yet. Perhaps an instruction to focus on non-complaint examples such as these would be preferable to simply forbidding examples on this page. In any event, having a discussion about the issue would seem to be preferable to individual action, and far preferable to an edit war.
Signed
11:56:25 PM Jun 26th 2010
...come Gushing about shows you like isn't locked?

^^^^ what exaclty is a legit complaint?
DragonQuestZ
12:56:34 PM Jun 27th 2010
Well as stated in the description, if a well known Wall Banger actually happened, you don't have to watch the show to know it's a wall banger.

Michael Caine gave a good one when he mentioned Jaws The Revenge: "I have never seen the film, but by all accounts it was terrible."
192.150.10.200
09:19:58 AM Jul 20th 2010
It would seem that in-universe examples (the entire premise of the South Park movie, for instance) would be the most defensible type of entry for this page.
maedar
05:10:06 AM Nov 24th 2013
Uhm, would it be acceptable to put the Trope I Do Not Like Green Eggs and Ham with the "related" Tropes? (I think it makes sense.)
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