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EarlOfSandvich
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11:07:13 AM Jul 21st 2013
I really think that The Mythos would fit the WebOriginal/ namespace than it would Franchise for two reasons: One, it just works out better, IS originally attributed to the internet and it since we brought WebOriginal/ back as a sort of catch-all for what wouldn't otherwise fit in other new media namespaces, I'd figure this can really work out. Secondly, "franchise"? Really?
Nezumi
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01:49:36 AM Jun 15th 2013
Reposted from archives in hopes of getting a reply this time: I was reading the original forum topic that spawned him, and there was one post in particular that intrigued me and creeped me out. It was one with a dream of him that suggested he was some kind of sinister protector or guardian. That was what really got me the idea that he's doing all this not because he's just another malevolent Eldritch Abomination from central casting, but because it's what he has to do to protect us from something even worse. I'm curious if anyone else had a similar reaction, or if that's been pursued further in any of the other media regarding him.
Serefin
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12:17:51 PM Feb 23rd 2013
Can anyone give me some tips on how to make a good Slendy costume? I'm thinking of starting my own Slender Blog once I get a job, but that's the one thing I think I would have a lot of trouble with.
muspells
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11:06:04 AM Feb 18th 2013
edited by muspells
Looking for a certain blog. I can't remember ANYTHING about it, other than the the character/poster was a musician, and had a bunch of songs composed for the blog. I think one was called Resilience or Resistance (whatever it was titled, it was a peppy piano instrumental — no vocals), or something like that, but Google and Youtube fail me. Anyone have any idea (or better yet, a link)?
VandalHeartX
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01:26:22 PM Feb 11th 2013
Can we get some clarification on all the "Slender Man" movies? There is the movie "Entity" which came out last year, that seems to have nothing to do with the Mythos, at least from the trailer. Then there's "Entity," which should be coming out this July, that is blatantly part of the Mythos, but seems to have changed it's cast or something since the initial trailer was released, but it's not real clear as to what the specifics are. And then there's the "official Slender Man movie" which seemed to vanish into obscurity soon after it was announced. There was also a Kick Starter campaign that I can't find any info on. What is going on?
Edgeworth1001
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08:04:04 AM Nov 22nd 2012
edited by Edgeworth1001
I'm not scared by Slenderman.

I have a different opinion about a mainstrem meme that everyone seem to be afraid of. I'm so dead.
MightyWorlock
08:55:29 PM Jan 8th 2013
Was there even a point to that aside from trolling?
LOAD
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01:52:15 AM Nov 5th 2012
Is Slenderman copyrighted or protected in anyway? Like if I wanted to write a book about him would I be allowed?
LiquidInk
08:04:03 PM Dec 4th 2012
I'm fairly certain there is no copyright over the character.
ProgenyExMachina
09:10:51 PM Dec 4th 2012
Someone did write a book about him. It's...uh...not what you might expect.
Nidalla
09:52:39 PM Jan 11th 2013
No, Slendy is public domain.
airos42
07:28:51 PM Mar 4th 2014
Technically he is copyrighted, a game was blocked from Steam because of it until the creator fills out some paperwork for it.
Warburton
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07:34:39 PM Oct 30th 2012
Are most of those "Not to be confused with..." entries really necessary? Some of those are fine, obviously, but you don't need to stack it full of every single one you can think of. I get it's supposed to be funny, but perhaps it seems to stretch it out a bit too long.

Also, anyone mind if I drop the Fear Mythos from the bottom? It seems tangental at best, perhaps it can just be mentioned in the tropes section rather than the header.
freecie1
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08:26:39 AM Sep 24th 2012
That sentence at the bottom.

/[[Homestuck ollies outio]]
Doxiedame
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07:25:37 PM Jul 31st 2012
Just thought I'd let those maintaining this entry that there is now a video game to add to the Mythos. http://www.parsecproductions.net/slender/

Has very heavy influence from Marble Hornets.
Mega
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11:45:00 AM Jul 13th 2012
This was NOT started by Victor Surge. I've heard urban legends about a "Tall Man" who kidnaps kids WAAAY before the Something Awful contest.
hobbitguy1420
01:26:40 PM Jul 14th 2012
I think the thing that Victor Surge started was the specific image of the black suit, the tentacles, and the Eldritch aspects.
Mega
02:40:39 PM Jul 16th 2012
Actually, the suit and tentacles wasn't by him, either. As for the 'gibbering madness' if you see him, that was by him.

Crediting Victor Surge would be like if I made a sci-fi story about the Grey aliens, and people said I came up with the idea of the Greys.
dewotbooks
03:17:18 PM Jul 21st 2012
But Slenderman is a uniquely internet-based phenomena. Did the Tall Man hang people's innards on trees in black garbage bags? Did the Tall man mess up Audio/video footage?

Slendy is a character, not a cryptid, a character that happens to span several blogs and videos. He's not saying he came up with tall men, he came up with this variation on the myth, and that's what the page is about. It's like saying Disney didn't produce The Lion King becuase it was based on Shakespeare.
JohnStJohnStJohn
07:44:48 PM Sep 7th 2012
Not crediting him for creating slenderman is like not crediting Leonardo da Vinci for The Last Supper because Jesus was already in the bible.

Honestly, this sounds like an attempt to discredit SA out of spite.
Syrus
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11:14:24 PM Jun 29th 2012
There is a reason this imagery is considered scary: Research MK-Ultra.
Syrus
11:32:32 PM Jun 29th 2012
http://secretarcana.com/hiddenknowledge/monarch-programming-mind-control/

Now remember what Jung said about the collective unconscious. The Hundred Monkey Syndrome fits in neatly to this. Even if it's not true, plenty of people VIVIDLY believe it that it is.

Now good luck sleeping. :)
ProfessorLysander
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04:43:33 PM Oct 14th 2011
Should we remove some of the tropes that have one or two examples referring to specific stories in the Mythos? Especially since some of those sidestory-specific examples are on their respective pages already.
ShadedSpriter2
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01:08:23 AM Aug 22nd 2011
I am wondering if it would be okay to add compileTRUTH to the main page with slenderia/slenderbloggins links. I am also updating the link to the list of all slender blogs to This Tumbler since the current link hasn't been updated since November.
DaLadybugMan
04:26:23 PM Aug 30th 2011
I think that compileTRUTH would be worth mentioning on the main page, so long as you mention that it is, in fact, and in-game channel.
ShadedSpriter2
03:32:18 PM Sep 8th 2011
I have added compileTRUTH to the front page now.
HeyFay
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10:35:38 PM Aug 21st 2011
What happened to the Troper tales page? It was here a few weeks ago, wasn't it?
TheOmega
07:18:30 AM Sep 27th 2011
Troper Tales has been removed entirely from TV Tropes.
TheNerdyNinja
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10:34:51 PM May 14th 2011
So what happened to the YMMV page? I know we used to have one, but it sort of...disappeared.
frodobatmanvader
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09:18:52 PM Apr 20th 2011
I have a question if anyone can answer it? Is the Slender Man under any sort of explicit public license that bars anyone from trying to monopolize his likeness/use in stories? I'd hate to see one of my most recent forms of nightmare fuel become controlled by a bunch of *real* 'suits.'
TheOmega
07:42:34 AM Apr 21st 2011
Slender Man is considered by most to be a public domain character. No one holds a trademark for him; you could possibly argue that Victor Surge is the owner, but that might be going into a legal grey area.

All individual blogs/vlogs/stories about him are copyrighted by their authors, although I don't think any are registered copyrights.

However, I can't see any company taking full control of Slender Man. Even if they make a movie or something about him, they'll just own the copyright for the movie; it would take an extremely good legal team to find a way for them to trademark a pre-existing public domain character. Which means we should be fine, unless Disney decides to make a Slender Man movie.
TheRoninator
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10:40:52 AM Mar 28th 2011
Who's up for creating a page for Observe and Terminate?
TheNerdyNinja
10:35:30 PM Apr 19th 2011
I would if I were any good at creating pages. I can help with adding examples if needed.
elevatorchild
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02:53:53 AM Mar 14th 2011
As far as the And the Fandom Rejoiced entry on the main page- I actually didn't hear of any rejoicing, and I'm wondering whether or not to edit. I know there's no such thing as accountability but...anyone know if this is actually a thing?
TheOmega
01:02:12 PM Mar 14th 2011
I was unaware of any rejoicing. Anyone else?
TheNerdyNinja
10:14:30 PM Mar 14th 2011
I hadn't heard of any buzz either. And judging by the fact that there's a total of four people who commented between the three entries involving the journals, I'd say it's probably just the blogger themself who posted it. In fact, considering that the blog is hated by some, I'd say it's more likely that a majority of the fandom are doing the opposite of rejoicing.
elevatorchild
12:06:17 AM Mar 20th 2011
OK, deleted. The author can put it back if they want I suppose.
SabresEdge
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11:32:27 PM Mar 4th 2011
Don't know nearly enough about the Mythos to confirm this (that's why I'm asking here instead of on the main page), but Arkady Svidrigailov? That name is taken straight out of Crime and Punishment as a Chaotic Neutral foil to the main character. Worth noting in a Shout-Out, maybe?
TheOmega
01:16:17 PM Mar 5th 2011
You don't need to ask permission to add an entry. ;)

The blog in question also has entire paragraphs from and essays about Crime and Punishment quoted verbatim in it, so yeah, I'd say it counts as a shout out.
TheNerdyNinja
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10:41:56 PM Feb 20th 2011
So Chase has a fuller list than the Unfiction one, and it's a lot more streamlined. Do we replace the unfiction list, or just add this one?
TheOmega
01:12:57 PM Mar 5th 2011
I'd say replace it, as the Unfiction list hasn't been updated in a while.
hobbitguy1420
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09:02:04 PM Jan 25th 2011
So, is there an "official" policy on obviously fake and/or ridiculous joke entries in Troper Tales pages? I'm specifically thinking about some of the "I shot Slenderman and now he dont harm nobody" style posts. I'd like to just clear them out, but I figured I should verify whether that was actually acceptable and/or advisable first.
WeirdRaptor
01:46:20 AM Jan 26th 2011
Go ahead. I don't think you need admin approval to clear out obvious crap.
Gloarb
03:15:36 PM Jan 26th 2011
I've never heard of someone just shooting Slender Man; from what I've heard, he can only be defeated through the power of friendship and sweet shoes.

Besides, let's not get into weird i-believe-in-fictional-stories weirdness; they're all "obviously fake". Slender Man is not actually real.
hobbitguy1420
08:31:21 PM Jan 26th 2011
It's a matter of thematics. The Slender Man Mythos is about horror. Troper Tales which detail real-life reactions to that horror are great. Troper Tales which contribute to that horror are, to my mind, simply adding to the Mythos. Troper Tales which talk about wifin' in the club with Slendy, or ganging up with buddies to beat him with boards-with-nails-in-them ruin the atmosphere and thematics of the story.

And they have bad grammar
Gloarb
08:50:20 PM Jan 26th 2011
In that case, seeing as how you're clearly the sole originator of the Slender Man mythos and arbiter of all its thematic elements, why not just go all-out and delete all the Slender Man troper tales that don't meet your exacting specifications of horror? I saw countless humorous entries on that page, filled to the brim with 20 dollaz and Carmelldansen references and the like; they're all ruining everyone's enjoyment of this whole Slender Man thing, so go ahead and expunge those too, please.
hobbitguy1420
08:56:56 PM Jan 26th 2011
There is actually a caramelldansen video of The Slender man. I've seen it. I can see how that reaction would be genuine.
Gloarb
09:02:08 PM Jan 26th 2011
Regardless, it is a reference to a usually-comedic internet meme and dilutes the normally tightly-controlled and well-plotted-out nature of the mythos. This is not some funtime collaborative effort where anyone can add their own piece to the story, but a singular work with only one true canon. It is our job as Tv Tropes denizens to deny would-be vandals the chance to pollute this great storyline with their own self-concocted nonsense.
hobbitguy1420
10:37:35 PM Jan 26th 2011
Oh, I hadn't realized you'd written a book. What's the ISBN? I want to look it up.
zerombr
07:05:51 AM Jan 27th 2011
ahhh sarcasm.
Gloarb
11:05:15 AM Jan 27th 2011
The book is a fictional part of the Slender Man mythos, you see; it has no ISBN. It's not real.

Anyway, since the saga of Gloarb and his cohorts is not a TV Tropes Officially Sanctioned Slender Man Mythos Work, thank you for taking it upon yourself for valiantly deleting all instances of it from the internet. If there's one thing I hate, it's when people think they can just MAKE THEIR OWN portions of a story as if it were some kind of collaborative effort with no central author or some nonsense.

While we're on the subject, I've noticed some obvious gamejacks have been gaining popularity; we don't want to encourage this sort of nonsense. Slenderfans need to realize they should look, not touch.
hobbitguy1420
11:14:36 AM Jan 27th 2011
OK, so what's the URL of your slenderblog?
Gloarb
11:27:37 AM Jan 27th 2011
Okay, there seems to be a misunderstanding here among us Slender Man Mythos Quality Control Arbiters. Let me take a minute to explain.

1) I didn't write any "slenderblog"; the saga of Gloarb and his buddies was not written by me. I'm just a fan; after all, you didn't write The Hobbit (or I Wanna Be The Guy), did you?

2) Within the fiction, Gloarb does not maintain any internet accounts; it is far too easy for Slender Man's Slender Force to track him down that way. As such, he does not keep blogs, Youtube accounts, or any of their ilk.
hobbitguy1420
12:11:43 PM Jan 27th 2011
so, where would I find this fictionalized account of this fictionalized Gloarb?
Gloarb
01:33:01 PM Jan 27th 2011
Why, right here on TV Tropes, of course, in the Troper Tales section, along with all the other Officially Sanctioned Slender Man Mythos Fiction. Unless, of course, International Slender Man Mythos Fiction Quality Control Headquarters decides that the story is not up to snuff, in which case it will be permanently deleted from the Slender Man Mythos Canon. We gotta make sure nobody reads any unauthorized Slender Man Mythos Fiction.
TheNerdyNinja
08:32:38 PM Jan 27th 2011
Please, guys. Don't feed the troll. Wifin' can easily be cut with no real consequence.
Gloarb
11:21:00 PM Jan 27th 2011
Okay, time for a serious, no-sarcasm response:

Slender Man does not, in fact, have any one main "author". No one has the authority to say what can and cannot be done when it comes to this particular setting; I'm personally sick of people complaining that this blog or this video or this post sucks because it doesn't meet their specific opinion of how they imagine the story to flow. You don't like one person's interpretation? Don't subscribe to it.

Besides, it's in the Troper Tales section. Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't recall there being any sort of "feel free to delete what you don't agree with" policy in place there.
zerombr
06:19:35 AM Jan 28th 2011
I have nothing against Troper Tales being somewhat humorous, I mean, no one is going to be using that page as their blog, so it's all more about the concept of the mythos, rather than an actual part of it.
TheNerdyNinja
11:12:06 AM Jan 28th 2011
There's a difference between it being humorous and it being spam and/or trolling. I don't think that making the Fresh Prince of Bel-Aire theme related to the Slender Man can be called anything other than wifin'.
zerombr
06:43:57 AM Jan 30th 2011
NN, let me ask you this.

If I were to create a similar goofy song about the Cthulu Mythos, would you delete that? or if I did one for Freddy Kreuger?

I understand, really I do, about wanting to keep continuity, and the overall feeling of the Mythos all nice and proper. But of course there's going to be wifin' on an OOG page like here. I'm posting here, after all.
89.174.58.114
07:11:49 AM Feb 1st 2011
edited by 89.174.58.114
Zero is still troping?

NN - I actually have to agree with Gloarb. On account of the one rule mostly, and it's the Troper Tales, hell it might be the poster's own Nightmare Retardant, so he can get some sleep thinking that "He shot Slendy and now he don't harm nobody". Although the people who post these could bother to write with proper grammar and spelling if it's not there for comedic effect.
Gloarb
04:41:22 PM Feb 3rd 2011
I'm curious as to what hobbitguy's beef is with me, or if he's simply trolling; there are dozens of humorous Slender Man Troper Tales that aren't the same tired "oh noes he goan get me he outsaid ma windo", and yet he keeps deleting the ones I add. Quite frankly, it's pretty childish and I think it's time to stop.
urutapu
04:52:28 PM Feb 3rd 2011
ಠ_ಠ
hobbitguy1420
06:12:14 PM Feb 3rd 2011
My beef is no longer that they're being added humorously - enough other tropers have chimed in saying that it's okay that I no longer feel justified in removing them due to that. It's that they're being added without regards to formatting, spelling, or grammar.
Gloarb
07:05:04 PM Feb 3rd 2011
Would you prefer if I put Ra Ndomly cAPitaLizEd hidDEN Mes Sages in them? Or if I typed in all lower case in order to look "scared"? Or should I use the supersecretspoiler tags to put secret stuff in between the lines? What should I do to make my not-real fiction worthy of posting in hobbitguy's Exclusive Writer's Club?
hobbitguy1420
07:50:16 PM Feb 3rd 2011
I am not being sarcastic now. Fast Eddie, the moderator, explicitly said that removing entries due to bad spelling, grammar, and formatting was proper and acceptable.
Gloarb
09:40:50 PM Feb 3rd 2011
edited by Gloarb
Then by all means go ahead! But why exactly are you stopping your purge at my entries? Slender Man stories rely, by their nature, on touches like what I just described in my last post. So why not delete every single post that doesn't have perfect spelling, grammar, and formatting?

An actual answer to this question would be greatly appreciated, by the way.

EDIT: Furthermore, at what point did my Ron Browz entry in the Characters section exhibit any improper spelling, grammar, or formatting?
hobbitguy1420
10:14:09 PM Feb 3rd 2011
I don't want to trawl through the existing entries as a one-man editing crew for several reasons, not least of which is that I don't have the time nor energy. I don't often read through entries I've already read more than once; I usually just check updates as they are made. I have, in fact, reverted new edits which displayed improper grammar and formatting other than your own. Yours are simply much more numerous than the others which I have removed.

I'm not asking for perfect spelling and grammar. Even I sometimes end a sentence with a preposition or misspell "euthanize" or something like that. But posts that are slapped onto the page haphazardly, written in a way which makes them difficult to read and understand, and in a faux-urban dialect which you don't seem to actually possess, as you're not using it in these discussions, impede my enjoyment of the page due to the aforementioned difficulty to read, even disregarding thematic issues with their contents.

As for the Ron Browz entry, I admit that I thought it was just a joke entry, and removed it as such. After having performed more research on the subject I realize that the original impulse was incorrect. However, I still would prefer the entry remain deleted, for two reasons. Firstly, the "twenny dollaz" meme is, as far as I know, a metajoke about the Mythos and not a part of the Mythos itself. As such, the entry (which describes a person associated with the Mythos only through that metajoke, not through any established story I've heard about - if there is one I wasn't aware of, please link me) feels unnecessary. Secondly, I feel that it's in dubious taste to have a real person (or the public persona of a real person, as the case may be) listed as a "character" in a fictional piece, regardless of memetic associations between that person's work and the piece in question.
jezter
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10:09:26 AM Jan 23rd 2011
Can people please only add articles for established, (not necessarily though it'd be nice) long-running, influential blogs? Otherwise the page gets really crowded, really quickly.
hobbitguy1420
12:22:14 PM Jan 23rd 2011
Opalure
12:51:09 PM Jan 23rd 2011
When a blog has fewer than ten entries, was started less than thirty days ago, and does not have an established following, examples can just as easily go on the Slender Man Mythos main page.
TheNerdyNinja
01:56:59 PM Jan 23rd 2011
edited by TheNerdyNinja
Um, yeah...why does The London Librarian have a page now? It's just a few days old. Just saying. You don't have to add your favorite blog just because it's your favorite. And you had better fucking not add your own blog (I'm suspecting that "cocoesloco" did, in fact, write it, due to almost no mentions of it by anyone else). That is masturbation of the worst kind.
FastEddie
moderator
05:24:23 PM Jan 23rd 2011
edited by FastEddie
Hey, quit making up rules for us, okay? There Is no Such Thing as Notability. At all. Which is why there is a place here for the thing that interests you. Also, we very explicitly do not have a rule against writing up your own work.

Don't drag that notability crap in here. It stinks up the place.
TheNerdyNinja
07:38:01 PM Jan 23rd 2011
edited by TheNerdyNinja
There may not be a rule against it, but it's still in bad taste. And as much as you say that There Is no Such Thing as Notability, that can never be entirely true. You're essentially saying that I could put up a page of my personal blog, add some tropes that I discuss, pimp it all over the site, and call it an article that the site would accept, just because there's No Such Thing As Notability. It's horrible taste and is essentially just spamming advertisements.
FastEddie
moderator
08:53:12 PM Jan 23rd 2011
edited by FastEddie
Yes, that is what I am saying, and that has been the way we do things for a really long time, with much success. We are not now nor ever will be the arbiters of 'taste', which is just another way to say "your stuff sucks and mine doesn't."

It is not that there is no rule against pimping yourself, it that there is a specific rule — damn near the only one we have — forbidding people from forbidding people to do it.

TheOmega
08:47:09 AM Jan 24th 2011
edited by TheOmega
We can't have a page for every single blog with Slender Man out there. It just isn't feasible, and it makes the entire article confusing and annoying. If you want to promote your own blog, fine, put examples of it on the main page. It may be poor taste, but there's no rule against it. However, the purpose of the individual articles is to document stories which have gotten large enough that they need their own section. Friends and the London Librarian are NOT examples of that. A few of the core theory blogs (such as What You Are In The Dark) are also pushing it. We have the main page for a reason. Use it. If need be, we can start making further subdivisions within the main pages, but right now we definitely don't need a page for every blog who's author wants to increase their number of views.

EDIT: Okay, how about this: We create a folder on the main page for minor stories in the Mythos. There we can put links to the articles on Friends and Librarian, or any other minor blogs/vlogs which get their own pages made. Then we keep the list of the major AR Gs like it was. That way, the list serves the purpose of letting the reader quickly look into the major works that are part of the Mythos, and still lets articles on other works be made without making the page harder for a new reader to follow.

If so, then we'll need to figure out how we define a "major" and a "minor" work in the Mythos, but at least it will get other problems out of the way.
TheNerdyNinja
10:28:36 AM Jan 24th 2011
edited by TheNerdyNinja
@Fast Eddie, I can see what you're saying. Now that I'm raging a bit less, let me explain what I'm saying a bit more calmly. Personally, I don't agree with what you're saying, but this is your site. I can respect the decision even if I don't like it. However, I still think it would be a good idea to do what The Omega says. It's not a matter of notability now, it's a matter of organization. The page is getting too confusing as is, and some lumping/splitting/reorganizing would probably help a lot.

Again, your decision, and I'll respect it, but I personally think that we can come up with some good alternatives. The Character page and the "Major/Minor" works folder can help with that some. It's just that a blog a day old with all of three posts and zero comments almost doesn't need its own page. There are a lot of blogs on the Slender Man at this point, and one that started up yesterday getting added by its author is going to make a person who's run a popular blog for months and hasn't gotten added a bit miffed.

Edit: Also, major apologies to the author of The London Librarian for jumping to conclusion. Evidently, the blog was added by a big fan and not her. Oops. My angry accusations are misaimed, and I feel like a dick now for making stupid assumptions.
SilverMaduin
10:58:48 AM Jan 24th 2011
I think it's safe to assume that major would be a long running/complete story with a strong following and possibly an impact on the Mythos. Marble Hornets is major. Everyman Hybrid is major. Dreams in Darkness is major. Seeking Truth is major.

While the Core Theory community as a whole is major, I don't think the individual blogs are. Exceptions being the first three Sages' blogs. I intend to merge the Core Theory pages into one.

H(a)unting isn't major, but verging on it. It's well known, but too polarizing and too easily discredited. Scared isn't major. It's well written and involving, even if Narmy at times ("no... NONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONO?!?!?!?!?!?", seriously?), but it has a limited following and next to no impact on the mythos.

TheNerdyNinja
11:44:55 AM Jan 24th 2011
I'd say that H(a)unting would probably fit under major. It's popular, and while it is hugely polarizing (I'm personally closer to the hate than the love side), it's doing something very different with the mythos. I'd say put it under "major."
FastEddie
moderator
12:18:56 PM Jan 24th 2011
Major and minor are still value judgments.

Perhaps listing them in order of seniority, since that seems to be the true gauge, is the way to go. I can think of many, many examples of the less senior fan-sourced material becoming more 'important' than earlier works. Shoulders of giants, and all that.

Here is the nub of the thing. We've been through this in a number of arenas and have learned that the wiki cannot express an opinion about a work because there are thousands of us, not just one viewpoint, and a group of thousands will never have the same viewpoint. Which will cause the article to descend into a constant state of warfare.

Some wikis enjoy that sort stuff. We choose to avoid it.
TheOmega
02:11:25 PM Jan 24th 2011
Major/Minor need not be value judgments. I'm not saying we should define "major" as what we consider to be the best stories, and put all the ones we don't like in the minor folder. Major would be the stories with the largest following and most influence on the Mythos. Stories like Marble Hornets, Everyman HYBRID, Just Another Fool, Dreams in Darkness, and Seeking Truth are accepted as being strong influences on the Mythos, even by the people who don't like watching/reading them. While quality is objective, impact isn't. We can look back and see how these stories have affected the ones which came after them.

This isn't about quality control for me; if someone really wants to put in the time and effort to make a page for their blog, sure, good on them. But the purpose of having the major blogs on the front page was to allow an easy introduction for newcomers. If we put up every story in the Mythos with them, then anyone knew would need to look through over 100 links (a number which is growing exponentially as more people come into the Mythos) before they even got to the list of tropes. The purpose for the folder I recommended was so that anyone new could still easily access the stories which would best familiarize them with the Mythos, while still allowing all the other blogs to have their own pages.

If we have to, we can play this safe, and only classify the completely universally accepted major blogs as major (which would mean not including ones we're disagreeing with in this very topic, like H(a)unting). In the end, I just want to avoid turning this entire page into a free for all between anyone who wants more publicity.
FastEddie
moderator
02:20:29 PM Jan 24th 2011
edited by FastEddie
That's an aspect of what we're for — raising visibility of things that could use it. I agree that the blogs list could be moved down to the bottom of the page, or put on another page altogether, something like Slender Man Stories. Getting to the tropes sooner rather than later would be great.

There isn't really any way to tap-dance around the fact that calling something 'minor' while calling something else 'major' is a value judgment. Picking some 'bests' is a review. Not what we're about on the main article. People who want to write reviews can just add them via the 'reviews' link at the top of the page.

Anyway. Moving the list to another page would be the best way to keep it from interfering with the purpose of this page.

I'm going to do that, so we can have a look at how it works.
SilverMaduin
03:08:59 PM Jan 24th 2011
edited by SilverMaduin
"That's an aspect of what we're for raising visibility of things that could use it." - the problem with these two entries is not as much them being able to use some plugging, as the fact that neither of them is "a thing" yet. I'm still flabbergasted that A Really Bad Joke has a page, as I don't think it's "a thing" yet, and I'm the bloody author. Also, the problem with Frap's "thing" was that what he posted was a glorified "there's nothing there, go read it".

Would segregation into "Most Influential", "Popular", "Core Theory" and "Other" be okay?

EDIT: Scratch that, I think what Eddie did is actually pretty good.
FastEddie
moderator
03:15:51 PM Jan 24th 2011
Just fodder for argument. Maybe classifying by style or content type would be useful. "Most Influential" and "Popular" are just ways of saying "good", meaning that everyone will want to shoehorn in their item or ban someone else's from the list. Who needs the headache?

urutapu
03:17:13 PM Jan 24th 2011
This page is also serving as an index for the various blogs, which makes me feel it's okay for people to keep making new pages and linking them here. If space on the main page is the issue, we could always stick the index in a folder...
FastEddie
moderator
03:32:16 PM Jan 24th 2011
The new page does the indexing just fine.
TheNerdyNinja
03:55:54 PM Jan 24th 2011
I'm really satisfied with this solution. Thanks, Eddie. This should work great.
WeirdRaptor
05:10:14 PM Jan 24th 2011
Heh. I was going to suggest a separate page for Slender Man Stories before, but I chickened out thinking it wouldn't be allowed. You guys are awesome.
FastEddie
moderator
05:14:56 PM Jan 24th 2011
Cool. There's always a way to do this stuff.:-)
WeirdRaptor
12:51:07 AM Jan 25th 2011
Do you guys think we should give Observe and Terminate its own page? They did cooperate with Zero on the Solstice and gave the After Action Report and all that. Even if there is No Such Thing As Notability, I'm going to wait to hear from you guys on this one.
SilverMaduin
02:29:58 AM Jan 25th 2011
Not a bad idea in itself, but the problem is whether or not it's "Core Theory". I personally think not - the only times the Oa T story really overlapped with anything from the Core Theory was After Action Report.
WeirdRaptor
08:17:05 PM Jan 25th 2011
I'll get to working on it as soon as I can.
TheNerdyNinja
topic
02:37:02 PM Jan 19th 2011
Hey, just a thought...we've got most of the main blogs, and there will inevitably be more added eventually, but should we create a "Characters" page to cover some of the tropes associated with certain blog/vloggers? I suppose some of the bigger ones would need their own pages (Marble Hornets and Everyman HYBRID, for example), but most blogs only have one or two characters, and a full character sheet for them would be beneficial.
ZariGravity
05:04:16 PM Jan 19th 2011
That might be a good idea, since it's hard to keep track of who's who, especially with new bloggers showing up every fortnight at the outside and dying/running/disappearing for long lengths of time at roughly the same rate.
WeirdRaptor
07:57:27 PM Jan 19th 2011
edited by WeirdRaptor
So character sheets for Zero, Amelia, Maduin, Robert, Anomalous Data's Jay, Shaun, Zeke, and M then?
166.137.141.163
09:11:54 AM Jan 20th 2011
Maybe also put in the characters from lesser known but still influential Blogs— like Nessa from Enter Light, for example.
jezter
12:42:33 PM Jan 20th 2011
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Characters/TheSlenderManMythos Here's a character sheet. It needs a LOT of work, though.
WeirdRaptor
01:14:03 PM Jan 20th 2011
I'll help.
hobbitguy1420
02:02:46 PM Jan 20th 2011
Just put in a folder for villains, starting with the skinny dude himself.

Now, if you'll excuse me, my nose is bleeding and there's someone in my kitc
jezter
05:00:06 PM Jan 20th 2011
Well, I guess I'll do a folder for the Second group of Sages and a Miscellaneous folder then.
SilverMaduin
05:09:03 AM Jan 22nd 2011
Wouldn't it be better not to separate the Sages? Just separating them in to "Core Theory" and "Standalone" should work.
WeirdRaptor
05:15:38 PM Jan 23rd 2011
It's not a problem the way the page is set up far.
WeirdRaptor
topic
03:05:24 AM Jan 17th 2011
Hi, guys. I've already added an article for The Tutorial. I think we should also do pages for White Elephants, A Hint of Serendipity, and the other influencial slenderblogs. Please, please, don't make me to do this by myself.

Anyway, on Encyclopedia Slenderia, there's a cached version of Robert's White Elephants, so we can get started on that anytime.
TheNerdyNinja
04:17:58 PM Jan 18th 2011
I'd say (like I mentioned earlier) that it'd be a good idea for a page for "Core Theory Blogs" that we can split more important blogs off of as they gain examples. Because really, the Core Theory is one giant arc, and while there are a lot of important events, many of them aren't really all that Trope Overdosed. I'd say we should cover all the "Sage" blogs in there, at least for now.
166.137.142.103
10:09:42 AM Jan 19th 2011
How about creating a page for the Core Theory and putting the applicable blogs on that page? With an explanation of the general theory, and each blog's connection to said theory?
TheOmega
02:08:17 PM Jan 19th 2011
I agree that a single Core Theory page would be the best; right now, we've got a bunch of short pages detailing each of the major Core Theory blogs, when we could just have one to cover them all.
TheNerdyNinja
02:44:12 PM Jan 19th 2011
Okay, so, Weird Raptor, you are amazing. Thank you for all that work you did. Incidentally, are you part of some Slender Man blog or community, just so I know who to thank?
TheOmega
06:19:34 PM Jan 19th 2011
While I'm certainly impressed by all the work Weird Raptor must have put into that, right now we have 16 series blogs in this article. That seems like a bit too much. I feel that What You Are in the Dark doesn't have a large enough audience to be given it's own page, and the Sage blogs could be streamlined down into a single page dealing with Core Theory. It would make the front page look neater, and we'd have to keep track of fewer small articles.
WeirdRaptor
07:56:18 PM Jan 19th 2011
edited by WeirdRaptor
I sometimes comment on the entries other make, but I'm in no way involved in this mammoth of a project. Been thinking about it, though...

One thing we could also do is split the lists on the front page. One list for stuff like Marble Hornets or Everyman Hybrid which stand alone, or then have blogs involved in the slender community on another.

EDIT: Done. I split the standalone works and Core Theory works into two lists. The front page already looks much tidier.
WeirdRaptor
01:28:28 PM Jan 20th 2011
edited by WeirdRaptor
Do you guys think Encyclopedia Slenderia and compile TRUTH need articles? They're an excellent source of information on the mythos that just about everyone interested would do well to visit. Plus, it looks like Dr. Cairo is starting to become haunted himself as well.
TheNerdyNinja
07:00:27 PM Jan 20th 2011
No. Not yet. They're informational, yes, but Encyclopedia Slenderia is already linked on the main page and compile TRUTH is largely just, well, compilations at the moment. Unless they start developing story, they don't need pages.

Also, I still say that it's a better idea to merge all the core theory blogs into a single page for now, with the possible exception of White Elephants.
Anaheyla
topic
06:22:27 PM Dec 27th 2010
edited by Anaheyla
What the hell is this? Is this supposed to be a book? A movie? An internet meme like that stupid SCP Foundation?

The article doesn't really explain what the hell this is supposed to be.
Takwin
07:01:50 PM Dec 27th 2010
It's more of an urban legend/internet meme than anything. Take a look here.
Tails
topic
10:21:42 PM Dec 18th 2010
So is there an archive of White Elephants available? I never got around to going through most the blogs, and hate the thought of it being Lost Forever.
jezter
11:37:33 PM Dec 18th 2010
http://www.slendernation.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=postsmargsnogamejacks&action=display&thread=427 <— That board requires you to register, but they have most of the pages cached...
MiMiOfTheStars
topic
02:06:22 PM Dec 10th 2010
Another request for more blog pages. A hint of serendipity and H(a)unting are getting popular.
hobbitguy1420
02:50:14 PM Dec 10th 2010
Uh... is there a reason you can't just create one? There Is No Such Thing As Notability. If you make it and it accrues interest, it'll stay. if not, it'll Wiki Magic off the page.
MiMiOfTheStars
08:51:06 PM Dec 10th 2010
Because I'm a complete noob who still can't for the life of me figure out how to make a damn page.
jezter
11:58:58 PM Dec 10th 2010
Here's a page for H(a)unting. Definitely needs some help though.
TheNerdyNinja
12:34:31 PM Dec 14th 2010
We could just lump a lot of the Core Theory blogs (White Elephants, A hint of serendipity, Testing 1,2,3, etc.) together in a single page. After all, a lot of those blogs are very strongly intertwined, and they're, in general, not quite as Trope Overdosed as some of the other blogs/vlogs.
jezter
05:43:41 PM Dec 15th 2010
So, say, a page called "Core Theory Blogs", and then a list of the general plot of each blog, grouped by generation? Would that list include The Tutorial?
TheNerdyNinja
09:30:04 PM Dec 15th 2010
Well, M and Zeke were pretty much the first two people given titles under the Core Theory. Of course, they interact less than some of the others, so...I dunno. It almost deserves its own page, as it's certainly added more to the mythos than A Lack of Lexicon.
SilverMaduin
03:20:10 AM Jan 3rd 2011
Introducing a "Core Theory" page and then including things like "Seeking Truth" or "The Tutorial" wouldn't be quite fair towards Zeke and M, since their stories are strong standalone pieces and they were given titles by Robert, because that's what the character did at the time. "The Tutorial" deserves it's own page, I think. (And now I will go on a hopeless Archive Binge just to dig up tropes for it).
TheNerdyNinja
03:21:22 PM Jan 6th 2011
We could always make a master page for the Core Theory blogs, and when any particular blog gets enough examples, we can split them.

On a similar note, are we going to include tropes from "The Mystic" (Zeke's new blog) under Seeking Truth?
EnglandandFrance
topic
07:43:57 AM Dec 6th 2010
Goddammit! I thought he was real, that picture seriously freaked me the hell out.
89.174.58.114
topic
03:38:24 AM Nov 23rd 2010
Hello. Why were the Narm, Nightmare Retardant, CMOF and CMOA examples removed from the main article? I'd rather first find out, lest I start an edit war.
urutapu
09:03:42 AM Nov 23rd 2010
edited by urutapu
Read the history before asking such things. They were moved to YMMV/The Slender Man Mythos.
TheNerdyNinja
topic
05:01:53 PM Oct 29th 2010
edited by TheNerdyNinja
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AllanAokage
topic
02:19:28 AM Aug 16th 2010
Okay, I have a question to ask. Should we be creating new works pages for the Slenderblogs, or should we be leaving them lie? I mean, we've covered the most popular (Everyman HYBRID, Marble Hornets, Seeking Truth, Tribe Twelve), but do we make them for the less popular ones, such as A Lack Of Lexicon and, say, The Tutorial?
Abodos
09:28:13 PM Aug 16th 2010
I think it depends on how many examples they accumulate on the main page. If it gets to the point where too big a chunk of the main page is taken up by individual blogs, then new work pages are probably necessary to redirect the flow.
AllanAokage
03:09:57 PM Sep 17th 2010
edited by AllanAokage
A Lack Of Lexicon has a fair amount of examples, quite a few of them by me, I'll admit. I'd say it's worthy of it's own page, myself. Thoughts?
Abodos
11:04:27 AM Oct 9th 2010
edited by Abodos
Sure, let's go ahead and start one up. Edit: Just did.
AllanAokage
topic
04:17:56 AM Aug 11th 2010
On the page image: it's a good illustration, but I think that one of the originals might be better. Could we either shrink it down, or just use it? I mean, a friend of mine said that if anything, this deserves the "when you see it, you'll shit bricks" caption more than the page image for Marble Hornets.
Kuruni
04:20:14 AM Aug 11th 2010
Can't see the image.
AllanAokage
04:26:56 AM Aug 11th 2010
Made the switch.

Previous Image versus new.
Abodos
08:18:29 PM Aug 11th 2010
I think that the replacement picture is actually a lot better. Sure, you don't really get a good view of Slendy, but the image does a vastly better job at conveying the flavor of fear that the Mythos contains.
AllanAokage
02:55:53 PM Aug 14th 2010
Yeah. Thanks to however put the better description in, I couldn't find it, m'self.

The friend I mentioned above said it was a bit like finding out that you had a turd in your coffee. Everything looks fine and dandy, then you see a massive problem with it.
Abodos
01:23:03 PM Aug 15th 2010
In case you're wondering, those quotes in italics at the top and in the caption are straight from Victor Surge's very first Slender Man post.
AllanAokage
02:10:03 AM Aug 16th 2010
Incidentally: thanks to whoever right-justified the picture; it looks tons better now!
Abodos
topic
02:57:27 PM Jul 30th 2010
edited by Abodos
Does anyone else think that it's high time for Dreams in Darkness to get its own work page? It's already got a good number of trope examples listed on the main Slender Man page, and the blog already has plenty of entries that can provide enough examples for its own page. What do you guys think?

Update: Nevermind, I went ahead and started up the page myself. Could I get some help in expanding the page and cleaning it up?
Vert
topic
11:34:52 PM Jul 26th 2010
edited by Vert
Has anyone ever actually heard of The Pale One? I mean, the page claims it's a well known figure in Latin America, but google doesn't seem to show up anything that relates to 'children short stories', nor have I ever heard of such a figure in Brazil (although, obviously, we don't speak Spanish, i.e., El Palido), much less the author. Anyone?
urutapu
topic
06:13:19 PM Jul 10th 2010
Is this Tribe Twelve official, or a gamejack? I'm not done watching his videos yet, but the fact that the same simple effects are used proves nothing (come on, how easy would that be to copy) and the acting isn't quite as good, so I'm not sure what to believe.
AllanAokage
06:53:41 AM Aug 4th 2010
It is not, officially, a game jack. It is an imitator, yes, but still legible for a page.
Cornbinks
topic
03:00:47 AM Jul 4th 2010
May we introduce the Everyman HYBRID [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JS7GZhNb7eM] series to this? It's a fan work, and the creator of Marble Hornets says he likes it and approves, and it's expanding on the concept a bit.
FastEddie
moderator
05:49:41 PM Jul 10th 2010
Yup. You may want to consider if it should have its own works page.
AllanAokage
11:01:29 AM Aug 11th 2010
Any word on this? If I could think of three tropes Everyman HYBRID has that don't appply to all Slender Man works, I'd make it myself.
urutapu
topic
12:29:30 PM Jun 25th 2010
edited by urutapu
The only thing I can find on this "Smiling Man" is an amateur film noir. The eponymous character certainly has one hell of a Slasher Smile, but I don't see anything Slendy-esque from promotional materials (although this self-purported "post-modern slant" makes me wonder just a bit) and the trailer turns me off from feeling like watching it. Just to clarify, is that the Smiling Man we're talking about?
Icalasari
05:43:24 PM Jul 10th 2010
urutapu
06:49:17 PM Jul 10th 2010
Oh wow.

Not sure if I see the connection though. It would make a lot more sense if Slendy were some terrifying guardian like some people speculate.
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