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open Edit War
On AudienceAlienatingPremise.Video Games, cwallace135 added Conker's Bad Fur Day as an example, and I removed it because the game's low success wasn't at all caused by this trope (I explained why in the edit reason). Then the same troper put back the example without any reason given, and continued tweaking it as if nothing happened.
I need permission to remove the example once again, because like I said the game's failure was caused by other reasons (almost-nil advertising, late arrival to its system, and distribution difficulties due to Nintendo not wanting to do so).
EDIT: Typo fix
Edited by MyFinalEditsopenLate Arrival Spoiler
I have a question regarding Late-Arrival Spoiler. Now, I know that when sequels to works have a separate page from the original, they have the LAS warning on them and anything that was a spoiler in the prior instalment is left unmarked in the sequel's page.
However, what if it's an ongoing story like in a fanfic. Say, there's a story that's labeled as the first volume of an ongoing plot, with a second volume being released. They're under the same name, so they share the same page. Do I apply LAS when the next volume comes out and remove spoiler tags regarding revelations made in the prior volume, or do I wait?
I don't know what to do and could use advice.
openSpoiler Marked Late Arrival Spoiler? Western Animation
Are Late-Arrival Spoiler entries allowed to be spoiler marked? Because I just found one on Characters.Ninjago Ninja, and it seems a little weird to me (the marking, not the entry itself).
openLate Arrival Spoiler in a fanfic
I am going to write a work page for a fic. The fic is set after two major characters die in the game, both of whose deaths are spoilers. Their deaths are acknowledged and established early on in the fic. Do I still have to add spoiler tags pertaining to their deaths on the Fanfic page?
Edited by AkatiaopenCan you settle my disputes of MichaelKatsuro's edits on the Ghosts of the Future articles? Webcomic
To complete the plan for my final revisions of the Ghosts of the Future articles and because of the strict Edit War policy and the fact MichaelKatsuro sides with all of his edits, I have to bring up my disputes of MichaelKatsuro's edits here for other tropers to address and suggest ways to settle them. I'd like at least two tropers to address them all.
Webcomic.Ghosts Of The Future / General
- Can the Nipple and Dimed example be reverted back to the previous version? Right now, it's just listing examples of nipple exposure in the comic, which is People Sitting On Chairs. The previous version explored the difference of nipple detail based on gender, which is what the Nipple and Dimed trope is all about.
- What's wrong with the curly brackets? I used to edit [[LikeThis this, when someone one day corrected me to use {{Like|this}}, so I went by that since then (not to mention it saves source code size). Is there a rule against them? Additionally, MichaelKatsuro typo'd Fusion Dance as Fusion Danc.
- Can the adverbs for the Sorceress' nipples can be added back, because they do give a different meaning than without adverbs? Importantly, should we still emphasize the nipples frequently (this is in an American perspective, because I, Evan Stanley, and many tropers are American)? I don't want to traumatize children nor get attacked by angry parents, but I don't want to shame Evan Stanley.
- Can the bit about Evan Stanley Lampshading the Talking Heads trope be added back, since that really adds to the example?
- Revised example for Ghosts of the Future's example on Mohs Scale Of Violence Hardness:
- Ghosts of the Futurenote Would've been a level 6 if it weren't for Sonic dying with large yet crudely-drawn bloody flesh wounds, the sight of Tails' bloody corpse with a large gash in one eye, and a character being impaled in both of his hands which results in thick blood dripping out of his wounds and huge bloodstains
Characters.Ghosts Of The Future
- Why are the "(UNMARKED SPOILERS)" notices removed? Is there a rule against folders with unmarked spoilers now? I think most of the spoilers for characters are Late Arrival Spoilers now, but I'd appreciate if they had spoiler warnings tagged for those wanting to enjoy the comic. I think if there's such a rule, the sheet might as well as Spoilers Off to be fair for all folders.
- Can the Big-Lipped Alligator Moment example be added back? I think the nipples are shocking enough to point Evan Stanley regards them as Old Shame- How about Shocking Moments instead?
- In issue 6, the Sorceress of the Dark Isle transforms into Darkwing and becomes naked. While her other parts are covered up with a Censor Shadow, her nipples are shown, yet lack so much detail they barely count as nipples. Many readers were shocked by this bit of partial nudity showing up in a Sonic fancomic, and Evan Stanley has now sees it as Old Shame.
- (Another Shocking Moments example) In issue 17, readers were shocked by the incident in which Mettalix impales Silver's hands and an abundant amount of red blood draws out.
- Proposed revision of the What Do You Mean, It's Not for Kids? example (and its identical counterpart on the trope example), which I think is better and lacks Word Cruft (Word Cruft takes the form of unnecessary words, these words add more detail for people to get a glimpse of the work; also, should the bit about one of the pages' description on DeviantArt having an erection joke be added back because I think that's still part of the work, as Evan Stanley considers her DeviantArt profile to be the comic's main host, or is the comic itself PG-13 enough to overlook that?):
- Even though Ghosts of the Future is a Sonic The Hedgehog fancomic by who is now an official Sonic comic artist and writer, it is not for children. The comic starts off with Sonic and his best friends being bloodily massacred by a mind-controlled Shadow, which results in Sonic and Shadow enduring trauma and guilt. There's shedding of red blood, infrequent and usually mild profanity, some sexual innuendonote such as the Visual Innuendo of the Sorceress holding the long neck of a jug between her breasts, and brief, non-sexual, and partial nudity in the form of rudimentary-looking yet visibly erect nipples. Nevertheless, little kids still read the comic, which encouraged Stanley to add Content Warnings to the issue 17 incident.
- Move Evan Stanley's quote in The Woobie examples to the first bullet point, next the "The Woobie:".
openLate arrival spoiler?
Ultimate Spiderman was a comic book published from 2000 to 2015. Initially, it was about Spider-Man reimagined in an Ultimate Universe. At one point Peter Parker dies, and Miles Morales becomes the new Spider-Man. Morales becomes the great Ensemble Dark Horse of the Ultimate Marvel universe, and survives the closing of the line in 2015 by being moved to the mainstream universe and starring in a new comic book. It is still being published to this day, and will be included in the upcoming film Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse (which, according to the trailers, will include the part about the death of Peter Parker).
But in the page, divided in two halves, every mention to the death of Peter Parker in the first half is hidden in spoiler tags. Is this really needed? Perhaps it was a good idea at the time, but nowadays this is clearly a Late-Arrival Spoiler thing.
openLate Arrival Spoilers on Work Page
What's the policy for Late-Arrival Spoiler again? The work I'm editing has had multiple plot twists already revealed to and made prominent in later seasons due to it being a long-running series. Having to spoiler them out every time they pop up is annoying. I posed this question on the page discussion but I received no answers on this.
openPokemon Black and White Videogame
An extension of my previous query, I found some all white entries on Pokémon Black and White. Most of them are about N, Ghetcis and Team Plasma. I wonder if Black and White 2's existence renders these Plasma-centric tropes Late Arrival Spoilers?
openDoes this Book Exist?
If you search Late Arrival Spoiler, you will find a book called "Rabid", a pulp book supposedly printed in the 1970s, whose backcover apparently spoiled the twist in the book. However, I am not sure it exists, for Google Searches does not turn up a book with the same name published in the 1970s.
Back in August, this note was added to Ghost Rider (2022), just above the list of examples:
Given that it's the latest volume in a series that's been running on and off for 50 years, with the return of the original protagonist in place of the Legacy Character versions of recent decades, I can see that it may have some late arrival spoilers for everything that's gone before, but declaring the whole page Spoilers Off seems a bit much.
The tropers who are actively following the series and updating the page seem fine with it, but it does seem inconsistent with our usual approach to works pages for serialised works (and in general, I think).
Should I just delete it and start tagging spoilers?
EDIT: Note also left on discussion page & PM sent to active tropers, pointing to this ATT.
Edited by Mrph1