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We do not need to move anything, no matter what cockamamie name Rowling and her people have come up with. And we definitely should not move either the Literature or Film articles for Harry Potter, since those will always be the titles for those works.
To give an actual answer to why we're not using it: The common name of the franchise (the name it's primarily known by) is still Harry Potter.
How to Create a Work's Page explains this clearly; "we require usage of the official name of the work, not Fan Nicknames."
Yes, this means if J. K. Rowling wants to rebrand the series as “Nitwit! Blubber! Oddment! Tweak!” and stuff actually gets published under that name, then yes, it is the new official name, no matter what individual fans think. There's the crux; has anything been published under the brand "Wizarding World"?
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Yeah I’m pretty sure we are supposed official brand rather than preferred brand. If Rowling wants to change it , then we have to change it.
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There is no work called "Wizarding World".
It refers to the multimedia franchise as a whole, not a specific book or film.
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Then there is no need to rename any of the exisitng pages, as the titles of the works have not changed. At most the Franchise page might need a rename (assuming that there is a Franchise page - I haven't checked).
^^ The rules were quoted to state that a work must be called by the official name. Well, the Franchise namespace by definition is not a work.
We do have Franchise.Marvel Cinematic Universe. it seems The Wizarding World can be it's own franchise namespace while leaving Harry Potter one alone.
I’m not sure how that would work considering that’s a major part of it. It seems Harry Potter would still fall under it.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wizarding_World
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^^The book and film pages really should not be in this discussion at all. They are all still called Harry Potter and the Noun Phrase, after all.
As for the Franchise page, Harry Potter...all a Franchise page is, is a listing of various works sharing a common set of characters, at least, if not continuity. It's a glorified index.
Wasn't one of the rides or something called the Wizarding World of Harry Potter?
I read a reason for it is "It doesn't make sense to brand stuff like Fantastic Beasts as Harry Potter, as it happens decades before he's born, even before Voldemort's born."
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I think in this case we ought to move the Franchise page and leave everything else at its place.
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You know what, I'm going to throw out an objection.
The Other Wiki describes Wizarding World as "a British-American fantasy media franchise... based on the Harry Potter novels by British author J. K. Rowling." This definition excludes the original seven books.
Essentially, Wizarding World is the expanded universe of Harry Potter.
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Maybe, to be inclusive of the original books and the expanded media, it could be called Harry Potter and the Wizarding World?
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^ I suppose a forum discussion about the "official names" rule may be in order, because the rule wasn't made for such a situation as this.
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I would agree with the idea of Wizarding World as the "expanded universe". So that might end up leading to two Franchise pages (just as Star Wars, Star Wars Legends, and the current Star Wars Expanded Universe are separate pages): Harry Potter for everything based directly on the seven books (plus Cursed Child) and Wizarding World for everything else. Though I could see some debate forming about what goes where, for instance with the Fantastic Beasts, Quidditch, and Beedle the Bard books.
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This discussion is already too long for ATT and will just get longer. I suggest that it be locked and the discussion be moved to another, more appropriate place.
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If the Harry Potter franchise has been rebranded as "Wizarding World", do we need to move the page to the new title, or is a redirect enough? (Given that it's been known for nearly two decades as "Harry Potter", it may be a while before the new name sticks...)
And if we need to move this page to reflect the new franchise title, what other pages would need to be moved? I would imagine Literature.Harry Potter and Film.Harry Potter can stay where they are, since they're the Harry Potter series within the Wizarding World franchise, but I don't recall what our actual policies are.