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openVice-admiral Live Action TV
here, here and here Crisis21 has potholed "vice-admiral" to Common Military Ranks.
Considering One Piece isn't set in the real world, is there a good reason for that?
openKitty Cats Live Action TV
Should we try and recreate the page for Kitty Cats, a 1990s Canadian kids puppet show?
Edited by LongLiveRockresolved Can Live-Action TV shows with real people playing themselves have Character Pages? Live Action TV
Something like the ZOOM reboot. All the ZOOMers play themselves like Pablo, Keiko, Alisa, Jared, Zoe, Caroline, Kenny, etc., they don't play characters. Would it be appropriate for such series to have character pages?
From what I've seen on the forums, the answer is probably "no".
Edited by 773202lunaopenThe Swarm 2023 Live Action TV
The page for The Swarm currently shares all of its subpages with The Swarm, leading to a lot of confusion. As the series page only has three tropes on it, can we just move it to something like The Swarm (2023)?
Edited by StrixObscuroopen Unauthorized CM entry. Live Action TV
SPOILERS FOR KAMEN RIDER GEATS.
Leonold 70 added an unauthorized Complete Monster entry for Beroba in YMMV.Kamen Rider Geats. Reddish has stated his reasons why she doesn't qualify yet (there's a chance that she is going to appear in the upcoming V-Cinema), so having the entry added anyway angers me. I've gone and deleted the entry, but I do believe that he has a lot of problems before, so this needs to be addressed.
Edited by Siegfried1337open Character Establishment Live Action TV
Is there a Trope that scriptwriters use to establish characters quickly. I'm thinking along the lines of when an actor says things like 'hey little brother/sister' which to me sounds clunky. I guess it's to let the audience know right away that they are related etc. so it cuts down on time.
Thanks. Paul.
resolved Zero Context examples? Live Action TV
RippedFromTheHeadlines.Criminal Minds is basically a list of episode numbers next to a wikipedia link. There is absolutely no context. Mind you, that list contains practically every single episode in the series, but still.
Edited by Lermisresolved Combative Editor for the Arrow YMMV Live Action TV
Hi, I need help with a combative editor named kyeo for the Arrow YMMV page. They've been deleting entries that are critical of the character of Felicity Smoak, even though the entire point of the YMMV page is to add widely-held audience reactions, of which the character has many of.
Edit History as noted by eagle108:
- kyeo deletes a large section on 09 May 2023 with the edit reason being "ok this whole paragraph is just taking felicity hate to ron the death eater levels; we can just mention the double wedding and leave it at that."
- They later edit this entry on 05 Sep 2023 with the edit reason "they were in like two episodes who cares."
- And then they delete the "Why Would Anyone Take Him Back?" entry later on the same day with the edit reason "can you please stop your felicity hate train."
- I re-added the same entry in a shorter fashion and with less critical language.
Afte readding the entry with less offensive and critical language, I asked kyeo to stop outright deleting entries just because they felt they were too negative towards Felicity in PM. They sent me an extremely offensive and rude response.
I've blocked them after this and didn't bother responding. Should I do anything else?
Note: Edited in response to replies added to this entry.
Edited by NyameopenOne Piece (2023 YMMV) dispute Live Action TV
Hi, I wanted to ask something pertinent to the One Piece (2023) page.
I removed the following entry from the page on the grounds that since it hasn't even been a week after release, we can't really say if it was "warmly" received by audiences, or if it has actually "succedeed". We only have critic consensus to go by, and as we all know, critic consensus is hardly an argument for the success of a work - hence us having a bunch of tropes like Critical Dissonance.
- And You Thought It Would Fail: The poor track record of Western live-action adaptations of mangas and animes with critics and audiences, most recently (and notoriously) with Cowboy Bebop from the same streaming service as this one, had many people not expecting much from this series. Another point of skepticism was the belief that the source material was a Hard-to-Adapt Work due to its cartoony and budget unfriendly nature. If its warm reception with critics and audiences is anything to go by, it appears to have broken the trend.
Rotten Tomatoes critics' consensus: One Piece captures the essence of its beloved source material with a charmingly big-hearted adaptation that should entertain longtime fans as well as patient newcomers.
It was added back some hours later by a different user from the one that created the entry, with no additional commentary. I have the feeling that we should wait until it receives a follow-up, or veritable proof of its success to add the previous entry.
Edited by RemulusopenHacked/Leaked sources for WMG Live Action TV
Are we allowed to use hacks and leaks to confirm/joss WM Gs or do we have to wait for it to be revealed properly?
openCastle episode recap Live Action TV
I noticed that this episode recap page has a warning about being cut for "Has fewer than three examples. Creating red links in 1 articles. Abandoning 26 inbound links." I'm not sure what this means and whether it's okay to recreate.
openAre interview TV shows valid content for TV Tropes? Live Action TV
Regarding the Shot/Reverse Shot page I was struck that the Bobbie Wygant archival footage on You Tube show some of this in action. In her earlier days she had to work with one camera so after filming an interview with someone and the camera on the person being interviewed, she would quickly re-perform her asking the questions and reacting to the questions in quick succession (while the actor sits there dumbfounded). Sometimes she would first walk over to another chair that faces the single camera before performing these reverse shots and reactions (because it's easier to have a second chair facing the camera than it is to move the camera around). The footage is then later all stitched together to appear as if there were two cameras all along and it is one seamless interview.
Bobbie later got two cameras so she didn't need to shoot these reverse shots and reactions at the end, and her interviews became a lot more natural for it.
Anyway Bobbie's show was more like a news channel segment rather than a scripted TV show. Is it still suitable for inclusion as an example of how two camera shot reverse shots can be faked with one camera?
resolved Patu Live Action TV
If I added this to YMMV.The Mandalorian or YMMV.Star Wars, should it go under Epileptic Trees or Alternate Character Interpretation?
- Given that no official translations exist for Grogu's babbling, fans share different ideas on the meaning of "Patu!" Some common guesses translate it to "Papa!" or treat it as the sound Grogu makes when he wants to eat.
openEdit war on Narkina 5 Live Action TV
On Andor S1E8 "Narkina 5", troper tahna_los added an example of Chekhov's Gun that is a spoiler for the last episode of the season.
I sent the standard spoiler message and removed the example, on the ground that "No spoiler on a recap page also means no spoiler for future episodes", which I'm sure is the standard for recap pages. The example should be on the recap page for episode 12 (and I'm not even sure it qualify as a Chekhov's Gun in the first place).
tahna_los readded the example without discussing it, just this time without a spoiler tag, missing the point and starting to edit war.
openDo pages for foreign works have to have quotes in their original language? Live Action TV
I want to make a page for Hallo aus Berlin now that its memetic status has increased its profile but I don't speak German. So when I'm putting quotes on the page, should they be in German or English?
openRemoving a page redirect Live Action TV
I'm currently working on reworking the Giant Robo page into mediums (i.e. manga for the manga, series for the Toku show, anime for the OVA) instead of clumping every entry on one page. However, the current page for Giant Robo is a redirect to Giant Robo. I don't know how/if I can remove the redirect by myself. Is there a way I can do this, or is mod interference needed?
openNewly proposed trope Live Action TV
How can I propose a new trope?
This is a fairly new and conditional Sitcom/Character trope.
In a core cast of 5+ "lead" characters (each present in a minimum of 95% of all episodes), one can be clearly identified as "the musical friend."
While this character isn't solely defined by their musical talents, and other characters may occasionally join in with their own displays of musical talent, audience and fellow cast-characters alike can identify them as "the musical friend."
Examples: • FULL HOUSE (1987): Uncle Jesse Katsopolis (singing / bandleader) • FRASIER (1993): Frasier Crane (singing) & Niles Crane (piano) • FRIENDS (1994): Phoebe Buffay (songwriting / guitar) • SCRUBS (2001): Dr. Christopher Turk (singing / dancing) • HOW I MET YOUR MOTHER (2005): Marshall Eriksen (songwriting / piano) • THE BIG BANG THEORY (2007): Howard Wolowitz (keyboard) • COMMUNITY (2009): Abed Nadir (vocal percussion) & Troy Barnes (raps) • THE NEW GIRL (2011): Jess Day (songwriting / ukulele) • BROOKLYN NINE-NINE (2013): Jake Peralta (whatever he does; I haven't seen it) • SCHITT'S CREEK (2015): Patrick Brewer (singing / guitar)
What other examples can you think of?
Honorable mentions (because they don't quite fit the conditions provided above): • THE OFFICE (2005): Andy Bernard (~80% of episodes) • CRAZY EX-GIRLFRIEND (2015): Rebecca Bunch (cast-characters wouldn't identify her as "the musical friend" because the song-and-dance numbers are all in her head)
Are there enough to qualify it as a trope, or does it remain in the category of "coincidental casting / character choices"?
open Trying to find a tv show i watched Live Action TV
It's about a teen I think he's from Australia or newzealand and he's working for these bad guys and I think he's trying to find hes missing dad or find out who killed him he becomes friends with some one from he's school who is a genius and they team up the first episode he's breaking into a house to steal a necklace he climbs the building with ease and he opens a safe and finds jewly and he rides a skateboard not sure if the dad is dead and he could probably be trying to find out what happend to him the guys hes working with could be responsible he also has a older sister who is trying to keep him out-of trouble he's hair is kinda long i think it's curly in one episode I think he finds he's dad car and it's not conspiracy 365 the teen isnt white
Edited by Peterdhillon
What is the name of a trope where two different shows have similar plot lines. I think the Gossip Girls and Euphoria have similar plot lines of the blonde girl sleeping with her brunette best friend’s boyfriend.