The Chatterbox, Random Music Discussion

You're a day late for that kind of post.

Dude. Sinead O'Connor just Rage Quit the Internet since some bastard manipulated women into sleeping with him by saying he worked with her.

That just makes me incredibly sad.

Does anyone know a song with the lyrics, "I'll hold you tight till the end of time cause I love you"?

I had a weird epiphany while listening to The Smiths' Meat Is Murder for the first time - See, I frequent a retro dance night called "Heroes" (after the David Bowie album), and both "How Soon Is Now" and "Barbarism Begins At Home" are staples there (as is a lot of other Smiths or solo Morrissey). I'd never previously thought about The Smiths or Joy Division being dance music, but they are both based around rhythms in a way, and dancing to music with melancholy or bleak lyrical content and melodies has started to make sense to me: If you're turning to music to deal with your negative emotions, two ways you can do that is try to dance those feelings away, or listen to sad/angry music and feel like you're less alone in the world... So why not try doing both?

New Order do manage to hit the right tone better than Joy Division (thanks to new technology and the new sounds/beats that were coming out of New York) or The Smiths (thanks to more simple, direct lyrics).

They have a rhythm, but I'm not sure those tunes were made to dance ("Transmission", "Dead Souls" or "How Soon Is Now?" aside).

You have a point there, nonetheless. Hitting the right tone of lyrical angst and danceable music is very hard, though.

Well, one can easily just bypass the lyrics when dancing to a song.

And a new contender to the list "Terrible Songs to Sing Along While Wearing Headphones at Work".

Curiously, quite a few of my favourite songs of late have been about female masturbation, including Charli XCX's "Body of My Own" and "Kicks" by FKA Twigs.

Does anyone know of some Spanish-language pop song whose refrain starts with something that could, in a noisy room, be mistaken for "piyo piyo piyo"?

That's oddly specific. Sorry, dude, can't help you there.

A couple days ago, a Turkish pop song named "Bangir Bangir" exploded in views over at Genius. We got 10k+ views because it was a new, hot song by a nationally famous artist, and our site won the Googlw game.

And then I tweeted it out and got 30+ retweets, 50+ likes, and 10ks of impressions.

It's a banger.

By the way, thoughts on this Quora post? Pretty amazing perspective on the Beatles.

This writer's claim is that the main reason the Beatles are revered isn't necessarily for their musical abilities, but how they made the studio recording the most prestigious music medium in modern Western culture (as opposed to sheet music or live performances), because they were exceptional in creating a recording. Or to put it more simply:

Many people take it for granted that we mostly consume music through studio recordings. While live performances still dominant entire fields (from classical music to music festivals), many people don't consider a song a true part of an art's discography until it's sold in stores.

It's the reason why fans are bummed that Kennewick Lamar doesn't have a studio version of his untitled Colbert song, even though it's still a proper song even if it was never aired. It'll likely be neglected by non-hip-hop-heads because of that.

On a related note, it's interesting that the modern album wasn't popularized until around the time the Beatles' time.

edited 8th May '15 7:36:36 PM by chihuahua0

Studio producers, yes, but not electronic (apart from some proto-electronic effects like, say, in "Tomorrow Never Knows" or "Revolution 9").

I'd say it's a mixture of the Beatles on one side of the Atlantic and Bob Dylan on the other side (see Blonde on Blonde, for example).

edited 8th May '15 7:36:09 PM by Quag15

I think he said "electronic" not in terms of instruments, but in terms of sensibilities. As in, they saw the studio track as the song's ideal form, as opposed to the live performance or sheet music. (Excluding electronic producers who actually do concerts as if they're playing instruments, as opposing to D Jing or playing a premade.) Which is understandable, since it's widely reported that during their last tour, they couldn't hear their instruments over the crowd.

Ethan Hein seems to stress the studio recording's importance in his writing, since a lot of subtler musical elements do work best in a recording, while others work better in a noisy crowd setting.

edited 8th May '15 7:46:43 PM by chihuahua0

Fair point.

edited 8th May '15 7:45:25 PM by Quag15

I really like Sia's recent works, particularly "Chandelier" and "Big Girls Cry".

But I kinda want to ask, has anyone wondered what's up with the music videos?

I really don't want to come off as a creep, but why is there a 12-year-old girl doing weirdness in a flesh-colored leotard in both music videos? Is it symbolism of how when Sia was a kid, her clothing wasn't particularly good or something?

edited 23rd May '15 9:05:29 PM by TargetmasterJoe

Because AAAAAAAAART.

I would say the suit is supposed to look like the girl is naked and exposed without having to deal with the consequences of what happens if you actually put a 12 year old dancing naked in your music video.

Hmm. That makes sense.

If she really was in the buff, those videos would be labeled illegally pornagraphic at the drop of a hat.

Maybe Sia was trying to convey the Japanese belief that nudity=purity (please correct me if I'm wrong about that) without getting into trouble?

Or maybe what was saying. That True Art Is Incomprehensible.

In that case, true art is weird.

x 4: I haven't seen "Big Girls Cry". When I first saw the "Chandelier" video, I was trying to reconcile the imagery with the lyrics and I think I managed to get something at least somewhat coherent: The song's about futilely attempting to cope with depression via drinking and other self-destructive behavior, and having someone dance in a jerky, violent manner in a sparsely decorated, dilapidated house sort of makes sense as a visual metaphor for that. It could specifically be a faux-naked child performing this action because... nudity = vulnerability and children = impulsiveness?

edited 1st Jun '15 11:20:27 PM by MikeK

so i'm looking at some new music, decided i'd start off with somewhat familiar ground and have a look at fleetwood mac's tusk.

was not disappointed. i'm gonna have to spend a lot of time on this album to have a proper opinion though, since it's pretty lengthy. i think i'll probably end up enjoying stevie nicks' songs the best though. (by the way sisters of the moon is an AMAZING song name)

I recent checked out the Comiket Web Catalogue and found out that the section for digital (others) aka music is reduced as a result of relocating the area from the more spacious east hall area to the less spacious west hall. A lot of longtime music circles such as Absolute Castaway, Azure Factory, Caprice Cafe and Eryps failed to pass the lottery. I wondered what makes the organization committee to take such a move. If this is also the case for the next few iterations I might as well as focus on M3 instead.

^ That's unfortunate.

What's M3?

Sometimes I feel what I think is the oddest sensation while listening to music - feeling nostalgic at the FIRST listen of songs. That means I feel nostalgic when listening to a song for the first time without any memory tying to it.

For clarity's sake, I'd like to first mention that I'm 19 years old. This strange feeling first happened when I was about 11. Then, I started listening to a radio station that loves late 90s and early noughties pop music. I always feel nostalgic when listening to some songs for the first time like "Semi-Charmed Life", "Absolutely (Story of a Girl)", "Runaway Train" and Smash Mouth's "All Star". Although I did listen to pop music as a little kid then, I don't think I could remember so many of them with my kiddy brain. I don't know.

The feeling returned for the past few years. I have been looking for new music to listen. I still feel nostalgic listening to songs for the first time. This time I'm sure I had never heard most of these songs, such as The Beatles' "In My Life", "We Can Work It Out", Big Star's debut album, the album "In the Aeroplane Over the Sea" and some Pavement singles from "Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain".

I guess the vibes of the songs must have something to do with it. I notice a large number of these songs have a power pop sound. I think my love of mid-noughties pop punk somehow relate to power pop.

Some of you may think what I have been feeling is trivial and not worth to discuss about. But the sensation is so strong that it gives me chills to my spine and a warm fuzzy feeling at the same time. I was surprised that the sense of nostalgia is that powerful in response to music I have no prior knowledge of.

Am I the only one who feels this way? Any of you feel a similar feeling before?

That's pretty much part of vaporwave's M.O.

edited 30th Jun '15 2:00:29 PM by PhysicalStamina

I'd believe it's nostalgia due to similarity. While you necessarily haven't heard the songs before, you've probably heard something that these songs remind you of, that being the beat, the production, the chord progression, anything really. I mean, I felt fuzzy warmth when listening the Spiritualized song "Ladies and Gentlemen, We Are Floating in Space" for the first time because it bears similarities to Pachebel's Canon in D in terms of chord progression. It doesn't even have to be conscious.

I also harbour a partial belief that most of the music we listen to can be in one way or another traced back into what we were exposed to as kids, as Freudian as that might sound.

edited 30th Jun '15 2:53:41 PM by Xeroop