All Purpose Nanoha Fanfiction Thread!

I can't even begin to describe what's wrong with your reasoning, so I'll just wish you good luck.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari

A world war can't be fought with sticks and stones because a conflict that is wide enough as to be global requires a gigantic infrastructure. Armies need to keep up with their allies and enemies alike, and if they've lost all capacity to develop and deploy modern weaponry, they'll have lost those other means as well.

If we ever get to the point we have to attack each other live cavemen again, those conflicts will have to be in the same local scale tribal warfare used to have, but that's as far away from 'world war' as you can get.

Good point. Of course, that doesn't stop some storywriters and setting designers from having entire worlds know nothing but wars upon more wars in practically every possible location, even though they're clearly stuck in a pre-modern state of technological progress; you can find some of that in WH40K's Black Crusade setting, for example. And no, the conflicts in the Black Crusade worlds in question are not fed by supernatural warp-corruption, even though the worlds in question are indeed rather deep in a gigantic Warp Rift; they're being used as recruiting grounds for the warp-corrupt forces. (Fun fact: The inhabitants of one of those worlds honestly believe they're fighting a holy war in the name of the Emperor of Mankind. The followers of Chaos who recruit from them just love to drive them over the Despair Event Horizon by revealing the horrid truth.)

But hey, we're digressing. So, back to the Nanohaverse.

... The TSAB would be seriously fucked if they make contact with the WH 40 K-verse, wouldn't they? The best-case scenario would be Hayate and Nanoha throwing the biggest and meanest Wave-Motion Gun attacks they have at whatever dimensional rift that connected the two settings and succeeding in forcing it shut forever, I think.

edited 22nd Dec '16 5:56:49 PM by MarqFJA

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.

There is no victory. Once you enter that rabbit hole, there is no escape nor victory. Everyone loses eventually.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari

... I have no idea if you're responding to a particular part of my last post, or if it's supposed to be a Mathematician's Answer of sorts.

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Okay, sure thing, whatevs◊.

edited 23rd Dec '16 5:33:03 PM by NapoleonDeCheese

Well now I'm imaging Hayate adopting a young Conrad Curze. That dude needs a loving family like Nurgle needs lessons in romance.

Fate Grand Order players will know me as Ryusei-Go.

It... kinda does? Mana seems to be generated by anything with a linker core, which is (so far as we've seen) only living creatures. It's not clear if non-mages lack a linker core entirely, or if they have one but the amount of mana they generate is so small that it's basically (but not actually) zero. I tend toward the latter, since IIRC when the Wolkenritter are draining people's linker cores in order to fill the Book of Darkness, it's mentioned that even non-mages can be drained to fill the book, it's just hardly worth bothering since non-mages will barely add anything. I also seem to remember that it's mentioned that draining someone's linker core completely will actually kill them (which jives with the "mana = life energy" thing), but the Wolkenritter aren't doing that since they agreed not to kill anyone out of respect for Hayate.

Anyway, back to the actual question, I'd say your best bet for introducing Ki Manipulation alongside standard magic is to do something akin to the split between Midchildian and Belkan styles of magic. Ki and mana might technically be the same stuff, but it's used in vastly different ways to the point where it can basically be considered a different thing. Of course, that depends on what exactly you want ki to do — if it makes you stronger/tougher/faster and you can throw chunks of it around as energy blasts and that sort of thing, then that's basically what magic already does in the Nanohaverse, so it's going to be harder to sell that sort of distinction.

Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.

The differences between ki and magic are explained here, which are setting notes I prepared for that fanfic I intend to write.

You know, it just occurred to me... Has anyone ever written a Nanoha fanfic with a Medieval European Fantasy setting where magic is commonplace but technology is, well, stuck at the medieval level, with no magic-shooting guns around? I would imagine that the best way to adapt, say, Nanoha to such a setting would be to have her as a mage who happens to have learned staff-fighting for mostly defensive purposes — as in, she would constantly parry blows from an enemy swordsman with her staff while she chants the incantation of a devastating fire spell under her breath, at the end of which she'd suddenly jump back a good distance (possibly with the help of pre-prepared Magic Enhancement to her legs) and let loose a torrent of flame upon her unsuspecting adversary.

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Isn't that the current arc of Vivid?

Nanoha minus the Magi Tech just seems like pretty much your standard fantasy setting with a familiar name or two, honestly. You could certainly do it, but I'm not seeing what makes it an especially interesting concept.

Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.

Is there any fanfic where it's Miyuki who gets Raging Heart?

Can't say I've seen one, ever.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari

How about looking at it from this perspective, then? Hayate and the Wolkenritter start playing a D&D-like RPG. Nanoha, Fate, and other Nanohaverse characters get pulled into their sessions sooner or later. Hilarity Ensues as personal quirks and perceptions manifest in the characters'... well, game characters, in comedic ways.

I imagine Hayate staring bemusedly at Nanoha's character sheet, describing a Red Mage who also happens to be a Blood Knight with implied Ax-Crazy tendencies and a predeliction for blasting her way through puzzles and mazes with overwhelming firepower and falling in love with maidens who have beautiful yet sad-looking eyes.

Why yes, this is very much inspired by the "Negima cast play D&D" fanfic over at the Negima fanfic thread. Why do you ask?

edited 4th Apr '17 3:51:02 AM by MarqFJA

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D&D is a game that can be defeated by Phenomenal Math Powers, which means that Nanoha and Fate would probably engage in large amounts of accidental munchkinery (because they're both prodigies and the game works through numbers).

It's like trying to play poker against The Number Man and expecting him not to count cards.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari

Which means more comedy as DM Hayate struggles to curb their attempts to abuse the mathematics. Good thing she too is good at maths as well; she could give them a taste of their medicine.

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I could see a D&D type game with Nanoha et al accidentally munchkining their way to making their characters essentially carbon copies of their real-life selves, despite this breaking the game in half. Nanoha as a sorcerer with the stats to melee with a staff better than a typical fighter, Fate as a scythe-using fighter who somehow has a base speed of 100 feet per round, etc. That could definitely be amusing, especially with Hayate as the Straight Man.

Really from Jupiter, but not an alien.

Hayate likely would not be able to keep up with Fate and Nanoha - she doesn't have the requisite experience. Hell, the Wolkenritter likely wouldn't be able to keep up their munchkinery.

They also might not want to stop it. It's not like they'd be disrupting the game through their munchkinery, in fact, Hayate might actually like the fact that they'd be able to pull the party through more dangerous adventures.

(Though if Nanoha goes with the '200 turns per round' build, she might put the kibosh on that... and yes, I think it was 3rd edition where someone found a way to get roughly 200 turns per round, to the point that literally nothing could live past the first round except the Tarrasque, and that's because it literally cannot be killed without a source of Wish without limitations)

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari

I feel like, depending on exactly when this is set, Fate would be the equivalent of Negi in SCM's version.

I.E. Her issues blatantly coming though in her character design and backstory choices.

Yeah, that's closer to what I envisioned. It's been a while since I read SCM's snips. So I totally forgot about Setsuna and her particular issues in the campaign.

edited 4th Apr '17 4:17:40 AM by 32ndfreeze

"But if that happened, Melia might actually be happy. We can't have that." - Handsome Rob

I was actually thinking she'd be more like Setsuna... who also had some of her issues and backstory (notably, the character always has a past with Konoka's White Mage character) leak into her D&D character — a fact which she's seemingly oblivious to — while still being better than Negi (who goes as far as to always make his current character's name [they keep dying, often at the hands of an exasperated DM pulling a Rocks Fall, Everyone Dies] be an anagram of his father's name, no matter how silly or unnatural sounding the result is).

edited 4th Apr '17 4:11:02 AM by MarqFJA

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I'm actually half-interested in reading "the Nanoha cast sit down and play a tabletop RPG".

That could be interesting, although I get the feeling that somehow it would turn out like the time when the Yugioh cast sat down to play Bakura's RPG in season 0.

Because Lost Logia.

edited 4th Apr '17 1:00:22 PM by justinkal

Only if the writer wills it so. As for me, I'd be interested in the many ways that Nanoha and/or Fate may Rules Lawyer to get her character to pull off something that technically shouldn't be possible in support of the other's character, and how the others may make fun of said girl's obvious "I don't want my wonderful/poor girlfriend to suffer through her character!"

Or one or more of the Wolkenritter doing that for Hayate. Or Hayate doing for little Rein because... well, she already lost Reinforce Eins, whose life really sucked in general.

Hell, have both happen! First with Nanoha/Fate/both Nanoha and Fate, then the Wolkenritter/Hayate do it and Nanoha and/or Fate call out DM!Hayate for letting it pass when she didn't do the same for her/them!

Meanwhile, Erio laments the fact that she's the Only Sane Man, since Subaru, Teana, and Caro have their own eccentricities.

edited 4th Apr '17 1:15:00 PM by MarqFJA

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If you're basing this on my fic, I'd like to add that part of the original joke was people having play styles in complete opposition to their usual personalities. Haruna had a character that was completely in line with her personality, but when she played she acted like a completely normal, moral human being (read:not like Haruna). So Nanoha could be playing a chaotic evil barbarian who uses any excuse to rage, Fate is a deep-immersion role player who really gets into her role and never breaks character playing a hyper-hetero conservative dwarf, Hayate keeps derailing the fights and situations to explore the sandbox setting, etc.