Blapper of Water
Bumping because it was opened without comment and sort of fell through the cracks I guess.
I imagine that there's enough content around the wiki to have Sexual Euphemism be its own thing. I'm not sure why we'd have a trope specific to Japanese culture when we don't have the supertrope yet. I mean, we have Deadly Euphemism for "euphemisms for killing or murder," so I think there's precedent, but not for a specific culture's specific euphemism.
I say we should make a supertrope for this and fold this into that supertrope, leaving This And That as a redirect to the supertrope.
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Sounds like a possibility...
^^ Unusual Euphemism is where sexual euphemism examples are currently placed. Did you consider this when proposing your new trope page?
edited 11th Feb '18 1:58:54 AM by eroock
Blapper of Water
Yes. Sex isn't always an embarrassing subject and the euphemisms can be relatively specific amd normalized when talking about sex (e.g. this and that, one thing, the nasty, doing the do, the tango, etc.). Intercourse with You lists other such euphemisms.
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I think Sexual Euphemism is common enough (to put it mildly) to get its own page. And certainly should have a page long before any individual specific euphemism like this one does. This looks like a textbook case of The Same But More Specific.
Speaking words of fandom: let it squee, let it squee.
So, is it unanimous to make a SE TLP and fold this into that?
Or someone wanna make a crowner? Goodnight... TTYL.
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So, we're 12:2 for "Make SE and redirect TAT there." ... I guess that's a go?
edited 16th Feb '18 6:11:50 PM by Malady
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13:2 now, and I think so.
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Started Sexual Euphemism TLP
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Will call the crowner to make it official.
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What's the next step?
edited 25th Feb '18 11:43:57 AM by eroock
I'd assume launching Sexual Euphemism and making This And That into a redirect there.
Anyone finding anything wrong with the current TLP? 'Cause I just need one more hat to launch.
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Blapper of Water
You'll want to announce the launch and give it a few days prior to launch.
Comments on the draft should be brought up in the draft's comment section, imo, so I'll take mine there.
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Sexual Euphemism is launched. Cut This And That? Or turn it into a redirect, and move the latter's redirects over as well?
edited 17th Mar '18 8:43:47 AM by Malady
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Turn it into a redirect
- Converted. - I guess I should check that all the wicks are right...
edited 18th Mar '18 4:47:40 AM by Malady
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Unusual Euphemism's relation to Sexual Euphemism is not a case of Exactly What It Says on the Tin for the obvious reason that you cannot understand the concept merely from the trope's name. I'm reverting that part of the description to what I suggested in the draft to clean up the EWISOTT misuse.
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- Totally fine! Yeah, I screwed up there. Sorry!
Should Sexual Euphemism go on No Real Life Examples, Please!? 'Cause I have some RL examples on the page, as carry overs from Unusual Euphemism...
And we remove all the This And That wicks? Or just the ones that are incorrect and in trope lists? IIRC, the former, because redirects are only to help searches?
edited 19th Mar '18 4:57:55 PM by Malady
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A proper job would verify the example is correct, links to Sexual Euphemism, and has a Cross Wick on the trope page. Incomplete context/grammar gets edited, commented-out, or deleted, depending on how confident you are at fixing the problem.
[Edit: I can't spell euphemism correctly.]
edited 19th Mar '18 5:23:49 PM by crazysamaritan
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Tyrannoraptoran Reptiliomorph
Uh, the title of Sexual Euphemism is misspelled...
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- How? Google seems to report it as fine? And all of these work...
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Sorry, I was wrong. I thought it was spelled euphenism.
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Laconic.This And That: Japanese euphemism for sex.
It's just a list of uses of a certain style of euphemism, and not even all of the uses are Japanese.
It has 130 wicks and 556 inbounds.
Suggestion: Fold the Music Examples into Intercourse with You, and the other examples that fit other innuendo tropes go there.
Along the same lines, sexual intercourse is sometimes referred to as "doing that thing."
For examples of other euphemisms for sex, see Intercourse with You.
Out of about 49 examples, we have these 11 examples that don't fit.
Non-Japanese Examples:
Up to this and that,
Amusing himself by abusing himself,
And catching it in his hat.
Non-Examples:
edited 11th Dec '17 6:27:09 AM by Malady
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