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Huthman Queen of Neith from Unknown, Antarctica Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Queen of Neith
#1: Jan 19th 2017 at 10:48:41 PM

A sound plague combined with freak climate conditions and worldwide pollution caused 99.8 percent of the adult population to die from it. When it happened, only kids under 21 years old survived. A world of chaos was unleashed where kids were free to do anything, unrestrained by morality or authoirty. In this chaotic world, kids were left to form gangs which they believed in this motto, “The Strong rule over the Weak” or “Everything is Nothing”.

In this nightmarish world kids formed gangs to fight each other for survival, justice and other causes. War often broke out between each other as they liked killing and fighting each other to the death.

So what are your opinions and suggestions about it?

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DeusDenuo Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Gonna take a lot to drag me away from you
#2: Jan 19th 2017 at 11:06:44 PM

Are the farmers as violent as the gangbangers, then? And who produces the fuel and consumables that, I imagine, would be necessary for survival?

Huthman Queen of Neith from Unknown, Antarctica Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Queen of Neith
#3: Jan 19th 2017 at 11:14:48 PM

So Troper[up], do you know how consumables for survival are made? They are made from slave power of the younger and weaker kids and the freemen of the stronger and older kids.

As you see, society relies on fighting and killing each other for resources and other stuff for survival, slave power and perpetual warfare.

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DeusDenuo Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Gonna take a lot to drag me away from you
#4: Jan 19th 2017 at 11:48:15 PM

Also sex. Lots and lots of sex, to replenish the labor force that keeps getting killed off. At what point does Unfortunate Implications rear its ugly head?

I imagine that there are some rather violent doctors, nurses, and/or midwives roaming this survivor's world?

Huthman Queen of Neith from Unknown, Antarctica Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#5: Jan 20th 2017 at 12:29:09 AM

To mostly avoid Squick and Too Much Information. Let's say they have baby farms where anyone over the age of 12 may join to support their gangs.

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Belisaurius Since: Feb, 2010
#6: Jan 20th 2017 at 5:25:57 AM

On the other hand, this world would only last for about 20 years or so.

Huthman Queen of Neith from Unknown, Antarctica Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Queen of Neith
#7: Jan 20th 2017 at 1:46:01 PM

[up] What is your reason troper, for that type of world lasting for 20 years or so.

In this world, gang wars often fight with improvised weapons like planks, crowbars and other tools and guns like pistols and rifles/

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Belisaurius Since: Feb, 2010
#8: Jan 20th 2017 at 2:29:12 PM

People move on, people get older, people have kids.

Having kids is a big one. It tends to reorganize a parents priorities around building a future rather than enjoying the now. Additionally, people get tired of the violence. It becomes boring, monotonous, and expected. As people get older they get better and better at surviving while getting more disillusioned with the causes that drove them to fight at the beginning. The elderly will get more clout as at 40 years of age they still have enough vigor to be dangerous while having a wealth of experience the younger generations lack. This will become a stabilizing force as there will be somebody to slap the young idiots over the head before they launch a suicidal attack.

There's also a strong risk of empires forming. Eventually, somebody is going to grab net positive territory and manpower. After a certain point the smaller gangs simply won't be large or organized enough to compete. At that point the smaller gangs will need to either join together or be destroyed. Whatever the outcome you end up with less gangs than you started with and a less chaotic environment. Either one side destroys the other or the two sides reach a stalemate and stop fighting as they're too heavily entrenched to dislodge.

Finally, with so many dead there's a lot of open space left over so you'd have groups leaving to unclaimed territory and end up being left alone for a generation or so. By the time anybody bothers to deal with them they've gotten dug in and prosperous.

Huthman Queen of Neith from Unknown, Antarctica Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Queen of Neith
#9: Jan 20th 2017 at 3:01:10 PM

[up] So you mean in a simplified form. The kids will grow older and make a more orderly environment. Well I think this setting will make a good one-shot story.

Belisarius, in this world, the kid gangs often take turf in abandoned buildings filled with corpses of adults killed by the sound plague. Powerful kid gangs often control large areas of turf and war with other strong kid gangs.

The kid gangs has a leader and a enforcer to fight off invading forces on their turf. One of the disturbing things they do is to act like savage persons. Perpetuating savage acts like:

Do you feel the story has a potential for Darkness-Induced Audience Apathy if I write the story?

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Belisaurius Since: Feb, 2010
#10: Jan 20th 2017 at 5:52:31 PM

It really depends on what or who the protag is fighting for. If he's got his own gang he's trying to keep alive thats one thing but if the "hero" is just murdering people left and right then it all becomes pointless.

DeusDenuo Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Gonna take a lot to drag me away from you
#11: Jan 20th 2017 at 6:15:46 PM

[up][up] Maybe, but with just the setting to go off of we'd be making pointless guesses.

Huthman Queen of Neith from Unknown, Antarctica Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#12: Jan 20th 2017 at 7:20:04 PM

Let's continue with the premise for a sec. Can you try to raise some questions about the premise of this world?

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DeusDenuo Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Gonna take a lot to drag me away from you
#13: Jan 20th 2017 at 8:19:09 PM

I think the premise does nothing but raise questions...

Fine. What do they call themselves, and where do they find their supplies?

Huthman Queen of Neith from Unknown, Antarctica Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Queen of Neith
#14: Jan 20th 2017 at 8:33:51 PM

What do they call themselves?

  • I don't know what you are talking about?

Where do they find their supplies?

  • Oh, you want to hear that. Okay, the gangs often scavenge anything they could find using their scavengers. The gangs often attack other gangs to get supplies of food, water, gas, electricity and other supplies.

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ThriceCharming Red Spade, Black Heart from Maryland Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#15: Jan 21st 2017 at 4:06:04 PM

I'm not some Wide-Eyed Idealist but I sincerely doubt that a world of kids would necessarily devolve into a world of bloodshed. Kids Are Cruel, but they're not that cruel.

Chaos, instability, a sudden and inevitable collapse of the global infrastructure... All of that stuff would happen. But this law-of-the-jungle stuff seems less plausible.

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Huthman Queen of Neith from Unknown, Antarctica Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#16: Jan 21st 2017 at 4:29:28 PM

ThriceCharming. Then what would a world ultra-violent world ruled by kids really be like?!

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ThriceCharming Red Spade, Black Heart from Maryland Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#17: Jan 21st 2017 at 5:18:59 PM

My point is that I don't really believe in the premise. Or rather, I think that "A world where all adults suddenly drop dead and only kids remain" is a good idea, but you're approaching it from the wrong angle. It'd be terrifying for children, and everything would indeed go to shit, but the children would have many scarier things to worry about than each other.

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Huthman Queen of Neith from Unknown, Antarctica Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#18: Jan 21st 2017 at 8:31:22 PM

What would be the scarier things if it happens?

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Belisaurius Since: Feb, 2010
#19: Jan 22nd 2017 at 7:31:54 AM

Starvation, disease, exposure, fire, wild animals, food poisoning, etc.

ThriceCharming Red Spade, Black Heart from Maryland Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#20: Jan 22nd 2017 at 9:11:15 PM

[up] Yes, that.

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KnightofLsama Since: Sep, 2010
#21: Jan 23rd 2017 at 12:01:03 AM

[up][up] Yeah, those are the big ones.

The thing is you're looking at complete and total collapse of infrastructure and everything that's supported by it due to loss of institutional knowledge, Some of the older survivors (who in many jurisdictions would be considered adults) might have some basic knowledge but advanced knowledge, especially in the medical fields is just gone. Ditto for construction which has knock on effects. Sure some kids in the rural areas know how to run a tractor and can harvest food. They might even be able to do basic repairs and maintenance. But spare parts run out and there's no-one left who knows how to run the factories that make those spare parts. And there's your food supply chain gone.

Same for power (taking out both refrigeration to preserve food as well as heating in colder areas) Water. Medicine (and lets not even get into diagnosing conditions and prescribing medication). And these issues are going to be made worse in urban areas where your highest population concentrations are.

After a couple of years you're not going to have enough of a population for an "ultra-violent" world. What few survivors there are will be to busy trying to survive. Will there be violence, yes. But no more so than say during the agrarian revolution.

Belisaurius Since: Feb, 2010
#22: Jan 23rd 2017 at 5:18:31 AM

Also, with such an impressive die-off you're going to be left with a horde of corpses and neither the manpower or the inclination to dispose of them. Besides the canibalism you also get disease from the rotting corpses which will quickly spread to the survivors. The disease will eventually burn out after a year or so as the bodies are skeletonized but in the meantime they've got all the biology of a human being without the immune system. In a civilization without antibiotics or vaccination disease is going to be your number one killer in the cities.

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#23: Jan 23rd 2017 at 1:50:15 PM

this what happens you apply logic? The world goes to shit.

Now that I say that, most if not all your ideas are doomed to fail if one were to add a nice pinch of logic into it. I'm willing to keep my suspension of belief , but a world riddled with violence ruled by children? Now that's just stretching. You know, you could try finding more plausible ideas rather than create a scenario where children of all people are the rulers of post apocalyptic world.

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JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
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#24: Apr 27th 2017 at 7:55:44 PM

So basically your writing The Girl Who Owned A City, but grim dark, coolevil grin.

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DeMarquis Since: Feb, 2010
#25: Apr 28th 2017 at 9:56:23 AM

It sounds like Feudalism, actually, except with kids. When people do disturbing things to each other like that it's usually because they perceive themselves to be members of different communities, and are competing for the same scarce resources. It becomes a tad more plausible if there are 2-3 "kingpins" in this world who have organized most of the gangs into rival alliances. If food is running out, if medical supplies are scarce, if sources of heat and intact shelters are hard to come by, then I could accept this premise as the basis of a well-written urban fantasy.

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