Would that it were so simple.
Wait, wait, wait, is this already out? I've been looking forward to seeing this.
"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
According to wikipedia it came out roughly 20 days ago in the US, and nearly two months ago in the UK. Around here (that is, Brazil), seems to have come out just now (it appears I watched the Advanced movie screening or something of the sort)
"All you Fascists bound to lose."
Would that it were so simple.
Ah, okay, I was neck-deep in studying for finals, last month. No wonder I missed it. I gotta see this asap.
edited 24th Dec '15 11:06:09 AM by CrimsonZephyr
"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
I saw it at a California art-house day before yesterday. Overall I liked it. Made a couple of curious choices. I didn't care for how they dramatized Birnam Wood-to-Dusinane.
Overall, pretty solid. Only the third big-screen big-time production to use the original dialogue, so for that reason alone it's good to see.
Gaon, you missed the perfect opportunity to name the thread 'The Film of The Scottish Play' or something similar and shorter
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Good choices of casting, that's for sure. We have David and Fifield, plus Édith Piaf.
edited 25th Dec '15 10:21:31 AM by Quag15
....God damn it the joke didn't even occur me.
"All you Fascists bound to lose."
I think the most impressive thing about this movie is Marion Cotillard, who is French, just absolutely nailing the hell out of 400-year-old Shakespearean English dialogue. God knows there are plenty of contemporary native Anglophone actors who couldn't make Shakespeare sound convincing.
I'm looking at you, Keanu Reeves.
edited 26th Dec '15 11:04:51 PM by freesefan
Frumpy and grumpy
Overall, I liked this film, but something left me cold, and I can't quite put my finger on what exactly. It certainly had some beautiful imagery, and, goodness, those mountain shots were spectacular.
I mostly liked Cotillard and her great performance, and how they humanized Lady Macbeth more, especially for the murders of the MacDuff's (which was a curious choice to burn them at the stake); it added a depth to her going crazy, as well.
"It's true that we had a gentleman's agreement, but unfortunately, I am no gentleman."I think the movie's greatest achivement is how well it portrays Macbeth's and Lady Macbeth's Sanity Slippage. The beginning of the movie shows Macbeth as already clearly suffering from PTSD and being a Shell-Shocked Veteran, while Lady Macbeth, due the loss of her child, seems to be also left with some lingering psychological damage which leads to her desire for power (as a sort of replacement for her lost child, I imagine).
Then Macbeth kills Duncan. The movie is great at showing that Macbeth's remorse is eating him away from the inside like a parasite, which leads to this movie's (rather unique, I think) emphasis on Macbeth beng The Sleepless. It adds a lot more to his madness when we see him literally being kept awake by his sins.
Which leads to the interesting realization that every evil action of Macbeth is in an attempt to justify his first one of killing Duncan. Everyone he kills is so his first atrocity won't be in vain. Macbeth's gist is he convinces himself him as a King is enough of a good thing to the world at large that it outweights the death of Duncan. His first atrocity (poor Banquo) is so his first won't be in vain. And then it just spirals from there.
That's something the movie gets very well. This little clip
is the best example. Macbeth's talk with Lady Macbeth here is portrayed as less of evil plotting than it is Macbeth being completely eaten away by remorse and trying to justify his own actions to himself. Michael Fassbender's delivery of "O full of scorpions is my mind" is just great, because he's unsure as he says it, he's weighting his sins as he says it.
Also unrelated but you know what I love? The re-interpretation of the Birnam Wood coming to Duisinane. Macduff just sets the goddamn forest on fire. That's pretty metal.
"All you Fascists bound to lose."
Frumpy and grumpy
You certainly make good points all around. I definitely agree that the film did a good job of creating a very confused/lost Macbeth. From the beginning, he looks like he'll burst at the seams at any given point, and the killing of Duncan releases something ugly; as you said, he needs to justify his actions, and since he's so steeped in blood, he needs to cut all loose ends to keep his delicate hold on power. He seems so fragile and broken at the end.
I did like that after the fire everything turned red at the end... super dusty red.
"It's true that we had a gentleman's agreement, but unfortunately, I am no gentleman."
Didn't see a thread for it, but I thought it should be discussed. The 2015 adaptation of the Shakespeare classic, starring Michael "Magneto" Fassbender and Marion "Talia Al Ghul" Cotillard, who then plot to overthrow David "Remus Lupin" Thewlis. Sean "Solomon Lane" Harris proceeds to get pissed at this.
I must say it is utterly fantastic, by far my favorite Macbeth adaptation (and Macbeth is my favorite of Shakespeare's work, so I'm suspect), and probably my favorite movie of the year.
edited 24th Dec '15 10:50:35 AM by Gaon
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