Duplicate Trope: The Precious Precious Car

The Precious, Precious Car is the same trope as Watch the Paint Job. The only distinction is that what it's the main character's car, it's Watch the Paint Job. That's not enough of a distinction to be a different trope.

Valid point.

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The earliest edit I can find (via Wayback Machine) for The Precious, Precious Car is October 25th of 2010. There is no YKTTW link on the discussion page, which means it was either made without YKTTW at all or not made using the Launcher, which automatically adds a permanent link to the YKTTW.

The description is very brief (although the trope is very simple to explain, so that's not really a point against it; a long definition is not necessarily a good one.)

It has 98 wicks and 41 inbounds since 1/12.
It has no subpages.

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Watch the Paint Job, on the other hand, has a YKTTW link on the discussion page. It was launched in April of 2008 — 2.5 years before The Precious, Precious Car.

It has 130 wicks and 42 inbounds.
It has Laconic and Quotes Wiki subpages.

Whether or not the car belongs to the main character is, I agree, insufficient difference between the two.

However, Watch the Paint Job has a line-of dialogue title, which we are trying to get rid of when possible.

I suggest a merge under the name The Precious, Precious Car, keeping Watch the Paint Job as a searchable redirect.

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.

Previous thread is here.

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.

Ok, looking at that other thread, a suggestion was made, and had some support, for making Precious, Precious Car into a sibling trope to Priceless Ming Vase — that if a car is singled out as being nicer, more expensive, or somehow more precious than other cars, it will be damaged or destroyed in the course of the work, no matter who owns it; and making Watch the Paint Job into "the owner of a car fawns over it, takes great care to protect it, and generally is rather anal, if not downright obnoxious, about it".

I can support that.

edited 26th Mar '15 4:09:37 PM by Madrugada

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.

Sounds like a plan to me.

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~Troacctid, ~johnnye, ~Madrugada, ~Willbyr, ~tryrar all agree that The Precious, Precious Car should mean "expensive car will be damaged/destroyed", and Watch the Paint Job should mean "character obsesses over the condition of their car".

~johnnye wanted to change at least one of the names, I think.

I want a Super-Trope for "unique item becomes damaged" because we've got Ashes to Crashes, Priceless Ming Vase, Exploding Fish Tanks, Doomed New Clothes, Carrying a Cake, and Doomed Supermarket Display. It's getting a little out of hand.

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.

I think that you're correct and we do have a Missing Supertrope there. It's not just a case of internal subtropes, because they are used rather differently: Carrying a Cake and Priceless Ming Vase are usually straight up slapstick, Doomed New Clothes tends to be more about characterization or foreshadowing, Watch the Paint Job is most often a shorthand to make a character less sympathetic; The Precious, Precious Car And Doomed Supermarket Display are usually gratuitious destruction for the sake of spectacle, or are used to make a Chew Toy even more ineffectual and put-upon.

edited 31st Mar '15 7:52:10 AM by Madrugada

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.

It can also be an inciting incident, like the baseball from The Sandlot.

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.

Yep. So it's not simply "The Same But More Specific". They tend to have different purposes and different uses.

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.

Plot Induced Item Breakage or Plot Induced Item Damage as the supertrope, perhaps? Or even Plot Induced Breakage?

edited 31st Mar '15 9:37:58 AM by Willbyr

I don't like any of those... The breakage may induce the plot, but it is only occasionally plot-induced.

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.

Dat Missing Supertrope is Rule of Pool, which itself is a subtrope of Chekhov's Gun

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No, that's not the supertrope. It's related, in that it's a Chekhov's trope, a foreshadowing trope, but it's not the supertrope to, say, Carrying a Cake.

All of the ones we're talking about here, the item itself is damaged or destroyed. That alone would rule out Rule of Pool as the supertrope, because the pool does not get damaged or destroyed in it.

...if you don’t love you’re dead, and if you do, they’ll kill you for it.

Also, Rule of Pool only covers swimming pools which would make it a strange thing to have as a supertrope to something about cake.

Forshadowed Destruction perhaps? At least as a working title.

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I volunteer to help with the YKTTW of the supertrope.

Question though, is this a Played for Laughs version only? because we do have Doomed Hometown as well, which is usually played for drama, which is something that if it exists in a work, if probably going to be destroyed.

edited 21st Nov '15 9:39:44 PM by NoirGrimoir

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https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/discussion.php?id=bdbjpimrpbmq933xhthzojv0

The supertrope is in YKTTW, but you guys need to get the page combining going.

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^ I don't think combining is what we are heading towards. Post #4 suggests keeping both tropes but refining the definitions and sort out examples accordingly.

Did this ever get decided one way or another? It seems that the general inclination was to distinguish the two tropes and sort out examples accordingly.

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