We should come to some consensus about which ones are bad before just cutting all of them. Some of these pages are valid tropes, and just need a good description to replace their current Real Life natter.
~Kyle Jacobs, ~Another Duck, ~wrm5, ~rodneyAnonymous, ~Madrugada do you want to come back and discuss these tropes again?
Link to TRS threads in project mode here.Sure, I'll go back through and see where things stand.
The ones under "Nuke" can be cut.
Check out my fanfiction!I'm editing the OP to account for the discussion so far, give me a few more minutes.
EDIT: Done. In addition to the ones we've agreed to cut, I'd also like to call a quick vote on whether or not to nuke the following:
- The Handicapped and the Helper: Duplicate of Handy Helper.
- Our Gremlins Are Different: I still think this is a duplicate of Griping About Gremlins, but with no information about what a gremlin actually is.
- Pinching Pain: Chairs.
- Suspiciously Similar Outfit: Duplicate of Dresses the Same.
edited 16th Jun '15 11:16:21 AM by KyleJacobs
I would be liberal in choosing what to cut. Only a few of the articles linked in the OP are worth having at all. (And are you going to work on them? I'm not... this has been about getting Cave Cat to fix them, I thought.) If afterward there really is something missing from the catalog, someone else might make an article about it again, anyway. Ideally, someone who understands what this site means by the word "trope".
For example: cut, cut all four of those, no question. I think the line is way further in.
edited 16th Jun '15 8:27:38 PM by rodneyAnonymous
Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.Cut those, yeah.
If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?Alright, someone else is going to have to change all the Feud Episode links to Break-Up/Make-Up Scenario, because there's over 100 and I can only do so much tedious work in one sitting. That, or we could make Feud Episode a redirect as a stopgap measure.
edited 16th Jun '15 10:01:17 PM by KyleJacobs
To all who don't know: Cave Cat has been banned for meatpuppetry, being asked by someone to help them 'fix' the wiki. Details are in Edit Banned thread. (and were on ATT, but may have been deleted.)
Keeper of The Celestial FlamePretty sure these stock phrases could be cut without much dissent:
Agreed on all.
Definitely Bonus Points, which should redirect to Troper Tic it's that bad.
Keeper of The Celestial FlameWas randomly reminded of this by an avatar that was similar to Cave Cat's. We still need to cutlist all of the tropes listed in x3.
If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?Blessed Are The Cheesemakers is a confused mess. Laconic is The Same But More Specific for Trademark Favorite Food (according to a mod I asked), while the rest is treated as chairs. Thus, I nominate that trope for the list.
As for the Stock Phrases in @235, Dive! Dive! Dive! and But This Is Ridiculous definitely need to go. Timber! could be reworked; I think there is a trope in there somewhere...
she/her | TRS needs your help! | Contributor of Trope ReportThis thread is for dealing with a specific group of tropes created by one user. You'd have to take that one to the TRS once the large backlog is cleaned up.
If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?I actually agree with Blessed Are The Cheesemakers being PSOC.
What's ironic is that there actually is a thread about it on TRS, but the mods won't open it
We do have permission to nuke articles directly from here if there's a significant consensus. Speaking of which, I just dewicked and cutlisted Bonus Points and am in the middle of handling But This Is Ridiculous. The shit I do when I'm trying to put of homework. Unfortunately it is now 5 in the morning. If someone could please pick up on But This Is Ridiculous and keep going from there, I'd appreciate it.
EDIT: Oh, and we can probably stick Gives A Whole New Meaning on the to-do list as well.
edited 23rd Oct '15 2:37:46 AM by KyleJacobs
I would have thought But This Is Ridiculous had all the marking of a proper trope, and not just a stock phrase. It is descriptive of specific situations, after all.
It should probably be put through YKTTW then to be revamped and refined. I'm going to finish up the dewick.
EDIT: I think it should be pointed out that this seems to be a Pothole Magnet from the wicks, and violates our No New Stock Phrases rule regardless.
edited 23rd Oct '15 9:49:49 PM by Karxrida
If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?But This Is Ridiculous has be de-wicked except for 4 ghost wicks (which I have no idea how to deal with). It is not on its way to the cutlisted.
edited 24th Oct '15 1:38:27 AM by Karxrida
If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?Bonus Points and But This Is Ridiculous are both gone, but are still blue because the Laconic pages still exist (they're currently waiting to be cutlisted).
Dive! Dive! Dive!, Incoming!, NOT!, and Timber! appear to have been created years ago before the No New Stock Phrases rule was put into place. Do we have the authority to cut those?
edited 24th Oct '15 1:07:49 PM by Karxrida
If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?A good stock phrase can stand on its own; a bad one shouldn't have been made in the first place, No New Stock Phrases or no. Entries that consist solely of times a character says a phrase should never have gotten past YKTTW. That being said, we shoukd probably return our focus to Cave Cat's creations.
edited 24th Oct '15 8:14:52 PM by KyleJacobs
The Handicapped and the Helper and Pinching Pain still exist even though the OP says they're cutlisted.
From a cursory glance of the final list, Cobweb Trampoline, Exorcist Head, and Improvised Catapult sound like they can potentially be salvaged. Most of the rest don't seem like they're tropeworthy to me (though Recognizeable By Sound might be another trope that we already have).
edited 24th Oct '15 8:24:04 PM by Karxrida
If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?Looking at the OP list, here are my thoughts on those:
- Running into the Window can stay, I think, since some instances are plot-relevant.
- Jump Rope Antics doesn't seem that appealing, so it could go if no one objects.
- Knew It All Along is definitely chairs, so that can go.
- Obnoxious Snarker can stay, since it appears to differentiate itself from other snarker tropes.
The rest I'm not sure on.
That may be a good fix for that.
edited 25th Oct '15 6:38:41 AM by Berrenta
she/her | TRS needs your help! | Contributor of Trope ReportObnoxious Snarker would be a complaint-magnet unless it was made In Universe Examples Only.
If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
Can I go ahead and cultist the ones listed as chairs in the OP after de-wicking them?
If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?