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Elbruno Mummy Woomy from Chile: Not As Dry As Space! Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#1: Dec 7th 2013 at 5:12:15 PM

It took me a good while to understand just what the current picture's point was. Apparently, according to the entry in the example, it has to do with the fact that the guy that's supposed to be Michael J. Fox in there looks nothing like Michael J. Fox, and the glasses they use to try to hide that lack of similarity just draws more attention to it.

For one, I couldn't figure that one out on my own, and I'm half-familiar with the Back To The Future saga. For another, I'm sure that's not what this trope is at all. To me, this one should get the axe.

"No, I'm not a substitute for Michael J. Fox, wherever did you get that idea?"

edited 7th Dec '13 5:12:34 PM by Elbruno

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treelo Since: Jun, 2010
#2: Dec 8th 2013 at 1:14:55 AM

It isn't the trope, I like the angle it's taking but it'd work better with an in-universe example rather than going for a two hitter of presumed knowledge (both what the source is and why the difference of actor is significant).

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#3: Dec 9th 2013 at 12:03:53 AM

[tdown] to the current. No indication of the trope at all.

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Rethkir A Trusted Friend in Science and Ponies from the gap between dimensions Since: Mar, 2013
#4: Dec 9th 2013 at 3:47:37 AM

It relies on the reader knowing what Michael J. Fox looks like, and it isn't even an example from the film. If anything, it looks like a JAFAAC of The Other Marty. Pull.

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#5: Dec 9th 2013 at 5:53:10 PM

Yeah, doesn't illustrate anything at all. Even with the caption it's not really making much sense. Pull.

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#6: Dec 9th 2013 at 7:00:16 PM

+1 to pull regardless of replacement.

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#7: Dec 9th 2013 at 9:59:26 PM

Definite pull. That is not the trope at all.

rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#8: Dec 9th 2013 at 10:32:39 PM

Agree; off with its head!

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AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
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#11: Dec 11th 2013 at 5:39:50 PM

A little weak, but it kind of actually works from a certain point of view.

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Elbruno Mummy Woomy from Chile: Not As Dry As Space! Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
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#12: Dec 11th 2013 at 6:05:50 PM

[up][up]I don't see it. Little help?

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rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#13: Dec 11th 2013 at 8:35:03 PM

"Covering something up draws attention to the fact that something is covered up." But then, how is it distinct from Streisand Effect? What is this about?

edited 11th Dec '13 8:44:31 PM by rodneyAnonymous

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#14: Dec 11th 2013 at 8:35:27 PM

[up] Same here; I don't watch The Simpsons so it's lost on me.

treelo Since: Jun, 2010
#15: Dec 12th 2013 at 12:22:27 AM

[up][up] From what i can tell, Revealing Cover-Up is the attempt to hide it up making it look more obvious and Streisand Effect is said Revealing Cover-Up drawing more attention to what's being hidden. It's literally a slightly different shade of grey.

edited 12th Dec '13 12:23:08 AM by treelo

randomtroper89 from The Fire Nation Since: Nov, 2010
#16: Dec 14th 2013 at 7:55:00 AM

Would Absence of Evidence be a related trope. The fact that there is no evidence makes it clear that a cover-up occurred.

treelo Since: Jun, 2010
#17: Dec 14th 2013 at 9:46:29 AM

Distant relation, the evidence is still around but being hidden whilst pointing to it indirectly.

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#18: Dec 14th 2013 at 6:31:49 PM

[up][up][up]So, Revealing Cover-Up is about the action, and Streisand Effect is the consequence?

treelo Since: Jun, 2010
#19: Dec 15th 2013 at 12:57:39 AM

Pretty much, they're basically the same trope in how they function as both are Suspiciously Specific Denials about something hidden only drawing attention to the hidden thing but Revealing Cover-Up is something poorly hidden.

edited 15th Dec '13 1:01:13 AM by treelo

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#20: Dec 15th 2013 at 1:10:43 AM

Streisand Effect is about censorship more than what we are talking about here - which is covering up crimes.

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rodneyAnonymous Sophisticated as Hell from empty space Since: Aug, 2010
#21: Dec 15th 2013 at 1:30:20 AM

The word "crime" doesn't appear in the description, though, except for a pothole near the end.

It is unclear what this article is about. That may be a conversation worth having, but not in an IP thread.

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#22: Dec 15th 2013 at 2:01:40 AM

I agree, ship it over to wherever it should be if there's space.

edited 15th Dec '13 2:02:04 AM by treelo

Rethkir A Trusted Friend in Science and Ponies from the gap between dimensions Since: Mar, 2013
#23: Dec 15th 2013 at 6:33:21 AM

I think I get it. Trying to hide something gets it exposed. It's the same thing as Streisand Effect, but Streisand Effect is Real Life and meta, were this is In-Universe examples, so they do need some example cleaning to fix that up. There's probably some comic out there that lampshades this. Like a bad guy reveals himself unnecessarily. But I've been looking for a while and can't find anything.

edited 6th Jan '14 4:17:03 AM by Rethkir

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#25: Jan 9th 2014 at 7:06:14 AM

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