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StarSword Captain of USS Bajor from somewhere in deep space Since: Sep, 2011
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#26: May 2nd 2013 at 6:04:43 PM

Possibly a collage akin to the current image for Space Elves, with an Earthling at upper left, coupled with a caption that goes something like "At upper left, an Earthling. Elsewhere, aliens. Notice any differences?"

I'm trying to think if there's a trope we can pothole to "notice any differences".

We could use stuff like Echani from KOTOR, the Doctor, etc.

EDIT: So the word is "collage," not "montage."

edited 7th May '13 8:24:39 PM by StarSword

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#27: May 2nd 2013 at 6:14:10 PM

You wouldn't even need an earthling. Just a Spot The Difference prompt, with a trick answer (none of the above.)

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#28: May 2nd 2013 at 7:41:04 PM

I like the top panel of 23.1 [tup]

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StarSword Captain of USS Bajor from somewhere in deep space Since: Sep, 2011
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#29: May 3rd 2013 at 8:30:14 PM

Working on a proof of concept for my suggestion above. I went through the examples and picked nine aliens from visual media pretty much at random (an Echani, a Saiyan, an Air Elemental, a Kryptonian, the Ninth Doctor, some random guy from Star Trek: Voyager, an ascended Ancient, an Altaran, and a Masari). Gonna put them together with the GIMP.

edited 3rd May '13 8:30:35 PM by StarSword

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#30: May 3rd 2013 at 8:42:54 PM

[up] I personally don't think that's as good as giving an image that both clarifies within it that they are human and shows that they don't look alien, rather than relying on people to notice what isn't there.

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#31: May 3rd 2013 at 8:50:06 PM

[up] works for me pending something else.

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#33: May 3rd 2013 at 9:01:03 PM

Hm...I do like that. I definitely like how it emphasizes "Really. They look human." But I'm leery of any image that requires the viewer to guess at what they can't see.

Maybe it should have two columns labelled clearly as "This Trope" and "Not This Trope"?

Rethkir A Trusted Friend in Science and Ponies from the gap between dimensions Since: Mar, 2013
#34: May 3rd 2013 at 9:35:24 PM

[up][up] I like this. I bet there are good chances that people will be familiar with at least one or two of these examples.

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#35: May 3rd 2013 at 10:41:57 PM

None of these images really show Human Alien. They might just as well be humans.

To be clear, still voting Keep Until Better Image Suggested.

edited 3rd May '13 11:31:59 PM by m8e

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#36: May 3rd 2013 at 10:43:56 PM

Oh—and wouldn't Goku be technically Not An Example, as he naturally has a tail (that's sometimes cut off)?

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#37: May 3rd 2013 at 11:03:44 PM

[up][up]Which is kinda the point...

[up]There's more possibilities where those came from. I kept the GIMP project and can swap in alternatives.

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#38: May 3rd 2013 at 11:05:57 PM

[up] But even if it's the point of the trope, that doesn't necessarily translate into a good page image. As I said earlier, I'm leery of showing an image of what isn't there, rather than what is. That's a lot harder to convey in an image. It relies on them specifically noticing they're all identical to humans, not just human-esque, which is the most important distinction of the trope. Which is why I suggested maybe a "not this" column?

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#39: May 3rd 2013 at 11:16:08 PM

An alternative I thought of while I was making the grid one: The Ninth Doctor, with an x-ray of his chest from "Dalek". I can try fiddling with the settings on the second frame.

edited 3rd May '13 11:18:39 PM by StarSword

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#40: May 4th 2013 at 12:00:40 AM

[up] Oh, yeah, that would be a good example! The picture is kind of confusing, but maybe I can find a fanart? Perhaps this (artist)? Or if that fails, find a picture of the Doctor lying down and 'Shop a X-ray chest with two hearts over him.

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#41: May 4th 2013 at 1:26:21 AM

[up][up]I don't think that x-ray is very clear at all.

I like either #30 or #32.

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#42: May 4th 2013 at 1:31:26 AM

The X-ray is too dark for me.

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#43: May 4th 2013 at 5:11:07 AM

I'll fiddle with the contrast and brightness on the X-ray, but I'm partial to #40. Shall we do up a crowner?

edited 4th May '13 5:15:59 AM by StarSword

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#44: May 4th 2013 at 5:23:36 AM

Just a thought: The heart X-ray pic would fit better to Human Outside, Alien Inside.

StarSword Captain of USS Bajor from somewhere in deep space Since: Sep, 2011
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#45: May 4th 2013 at 6:10:20 AM

^Mebbe. Here's an adjusted version. [1]

edited 4th May '13 6:10:34 AM by StarSword

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#46: May 4th 2013 at 6:48:44 AM

[up] I agree that that would work better for Human Outside, Alien Inside. While I like the simplicity of the Jor-El pic, the collage isn't bad either, provided the caption clearly states what species each is.

StarSword Captain of USS Bajor from somewhere in deep space Since: Sep, 2011
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#47: May 4th 2013 at 7:02:06 AM

[up] What I had in mind for the caption was, "Okay, time for a TV Tropes Pop Quiz! Which of these is a human?Answer: "

Also, should I just go ahead and add the Doctor pic to Human Outside, Alien Inside?

edited 4th May '13 7:04:40 AM by StarSword

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#48: May 4th 2013 at 7:18:47 AM

Let's get a little more consensus on it first.

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#49: May 4th 2013 at 9:22:20 AM

I just think it's odd only one organ and bones would show up on an x-ray, but sure, it kind of works.

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