Unclear Description: Strange Girl get usage counts

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26 AnotherDuck14th May 2013 11:24:27 PM from Stockholm , Relationship Status: In season
No, the other one.
It doesn't quite fit, though. That trope is more about someone who is mystical, rather than one who claims or seems to be. It covers half of it, though.
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27 helterskelter14th May 2013 11:39:04 PM , Relationship Status: Drift compatible
If they only think they are, they're probably a Nightmare Fetishist. Otherwise, are there any examples of characters that aren't mystical in some way (bearing in mind mystical doesn't mean "magical", but "having an unknown quality that seems to have spiritual meaning") and aren't creepy about it? I can't think of many.

Strange quirks for cuteness must be Manic Pixie Dream Girl.
"Strange Girl" seems like the name for a super-trope for all the various types of strange girls.

Sort of like Tomboy.

Sure I know what someone means when they say that a character is another "strange girl" but it's not enough detail to really pin that character down.
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Bump. Should I make a crowner to decide wheather to make Strange Girl a disambig or not?
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30 Pig_catapult14th Jun 2013 03:55:22 PM , Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
Piffy
Probably.
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31 SeptimusHeap15th Jun 2013 02:36:07 AM from Valle di Muggio, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
Tadpole
Yessup.
32 Spark917th Jun 2013 02:57:05 AM from Castle Wulfenbach , Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Gentleman Troper!
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Special trousers. Very heroic.
33 SeptimusHeap17th Jun 2013 02:58:08 AM from Valle di Muggio, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
Tadpole
"I have no idea what that means"

Disambiguation between what? I did hear Manic Pixie Dream Girl but nothing else.

edited 17th Jun '13 2:58:31 AM by SeptimusHeap

34 Pig_catapult17th Jun 2013 06:45:29 PM , Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
Piffy
Quoting from #24:

edited 17th Jun '13 6:47:57 PM by Pig_catapult

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35 Willbyr30th Jun 2013 08:25:41 AM from North Little Rock, AR , Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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36 XFllo7th Jul 2013 03:02:11 PM from Prague , Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
Someone whose strange quirks are played for cuteness is probably Adorkable, though the trope gets misused a lot.
Formerly known as Oreochan
Bump for votes.
"For those who don't know, I have XX chromosomes, not XY (although sometimes I feel like I have them...)." Maces
Other tropes that might be candidates for this page:

Waif Prophet

Oracular Urchin

Creepy Child

Emotionless Girl

Woman in White

Talkative Loon

Ironic Nursery Tune

edited 20th Jul '13 7:12:42 PM by Sackett

Some of those aren't Always Female.
40 Pig_catapult21st Jul 2013 12:08:10 PM , Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
Piffy
[up]Neither is Cloud Cuckoo Lander.
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41 SeptimusHeap21st Jul 2013 12:32:37 PM from Valle di Muggio, Switzerland , Relationship Status: Mu
Tadpole
Always Female is not a requirement for this disambig. Strange Girl can have female examples of non gender-specific tropes.
Formerly known as Oreochan
Bump for votes.
"For those who don't know, I have XX chromosomes, not XY (although sometimes I feel like I have them...)." Maces
(Only actual) option has 13 supports and 3 opposes.

The other option is actually a misplaced forum post, originally made by Wutaz:

I don't know about Mystical Waif, but I agree with the disambiguation idea as it currently stands. Perhaps we could use Moe for someone whose strange qurks are played for cuteness, since Moe is like anything played for cuteness (as I understand the page). I'm totally unsure of that though.

edited 29th Aug '13 9:48:28 PM by MikuruFan

Have any of the three people who don't want to turn this into a disambig said what they do want to do? If it's cut then there should be an option for that.
45 AnotherDuck30th Aug 2013 04:36:57 AM from Stockholm , Relationship Status: In season
No, the other one.
I see it more as a supertrope to those tropes. One of them supertropes which shouldn't have any examples that fit any of the subtropes.
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I fail to see why a strange girl would be any more tropeworthy than a strange boy. If disambiguation is chosen, it should effectively be a cut, with examples redistributed and the page deliberately redlinked.

edited 30th Aug '13 12:04:26 PM by MikuruFan

Huh?

If it's made into a disambiguation page it can't be cut or redlinked.

I thought the plan was to turn it into a disambiguation page like Tomboy or Ice Queen
Deliberate redlinks, like It Got Worse or This Troper.
It looks like a supertrope to me. More than anything else, it needs a better description. The idea I see is that in fiction, you often have a wan, fey female character who seems a little out-of-phrase, atopos, from the rest of the world. The Ophelia is one example, manic magic pixie girl... also the girl child from the Scarlet Letter and the daughter from the movie Carousel, the girl in Castle in the Sky.

Actual, Strange Boy seems equally valid, and doesn't seem to be all that different. Powder, from Powder; Benny from Benny and Joon; the boy in Frankenweenie, etc.

Maybe should be renamed to Strange Waif and made gender neutral?
50 AnotherDuck1st Sep 2013 10:00:33 PM from Stockholm , Relationship Status: In season
No, the other one.
The main reason I see it not working is that people (especially in TRS) have a tendency to view anything without clear definitions and boundaries as undefinable and not tropes.
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