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AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
No, the other one.
#26: May 14th 2013 at 11:24:27 PM

It doesn't quite fit, though. That trope is more about someone who is mystical, rather than one who claims or seems to be. It covers half of it, though.

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helterskelter Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#27: May 14th 2013 at 11:39:04 PM

If they only think they are, they're probably a Nightmare Fetishist. Otherwise, are there any examples of characters that aren't mystical in some way (bearing in mind mystical doesn't mean "magical", but "having an unknown quality that seems to have spiritual meaning") and aren't creepy about it? I can't think of many.

Strange quirks for cuteness must be Manic Pixie Dream Girl.

Sackett Since: Jan, 2001
#28: May 27th 2013 at 8:17:28 AM

"Strange Girl" seems like the name for a super-trope for all the various types of strange girls.

Sort of like Tomboy.

Sure I know what someone means when they say that a character is another "strange girl" but it's not enough detail to really pin that character down.

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#29: Jun 14th 2013 at 3:32:05 PM

Bump. Should I make a crowner to decide wheather to make Strange Girl a disambig or not?

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Pig_catapult Hurler of Swine from Knee-deep in Nightmare Fuel Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#31: Jun 15th 2013 at 2:36:07 AM

Yessup.

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#32: Jun 17th 2013 at 2:57:05 AM

You should make a crowner to determine whether this needs a crowner tongue

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#33: Jun 17th 2013 at 2:58:08 AM

"I have no idea what that means"

Disambiguation between what? I did hear Manic Pixie Dream Girl but nothing else.

edited 17th Jun '13 2:58:31 AM by SeptimusHeap

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Pig_catapult Hurler of Swine from Knee-deep in Nightmare Fuel Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#34: Jun 17th 2013 at 6:45:29 PM

Quoting from #24:

edited 17th Jun '13 6:47:57 PM by Pig_catapult

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#35: Jun 30th 2013 at 8:25:41 AM

Page action crowner's hooked.

XFllo There is no Planet B from Planet A Since: Aug, 2012
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#36: Jul 7th 2013 at 3:02:11 PM

Someone whose strange quirks are played for cuteness is probably Adorkable, though the trope gets misused a lot.

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Sackett Since: Jan, 2001
#38: Jul 20th 2013 at 7:12:28 PM

Other tropes that might be candidates for this page:

Waif Prophet

Oracular Urchin

Creepy Child

Emotionless Girl

Woman In White

Talkative Loon

Ironic Nursery Tune

edited 20th Jul '13 7:12:42 PM by Sackett

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#41: Jul 21st 2013 at 12:32:37 PM

Always Female is not a requirement for this disambig. Strange Girl can have female examples of non gender-specific tropes.

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MikuruFan from Away Since: Nov, 2012
#43: Aug 29th 2013 at 9:46:37 PM

(Only actual) option has 13 supports and 3 opposes.

The other option is actually a misplaced forum post, originally made by Wutaz:

I don't know about Mystical Waif, but I agree with the disambiguation idea as it currently stands. Perhaps we could use Moe for someone whose strange qurks are played for cuteness, since Moe is like anything played for cuteness (as I understand the page). I'm totally unsure of that though.

edited 29th Aug '13 9:48:28 PM by MikuruFan

lexicon Since: May, 2012
#44: Aug 29th 2013 at 11:33:49 PM

Have any of the three people who don't want to turn this into a disambig said what they do want to do? If it's cut then there should be an option for that.

AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
No, the other one.
#45: Aug 30th 2013 at 4:36:57 AM

I see it more as a supertrope to those tropes. One of them supertropes which shouldn't have any examples that fit any of the subtropes.

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MikuruFan from Away Since: Nov, 2012
#46: Aug 30th 2013 at 12:04:09 PM

I fail to see why a strange girl would be any more tropeworthy than a strange boy. If disambiguation is chosen, it should effectively be a cut, with examples redistributed and the page deliberately redlinked.

edited 30th Aug '13 12:04:26 PM by MikuruFan

Sackett Since: Jan, 2001
#47: Sep 1st 2013 at 1:26:46 PM

Huh?

If it's made into a disambiguation page it can't be cut or redlinked.

I thought the plan was to turn it into a disambiguation page like Tomboy or Ice Queen

MikuruFan from Away Since: Nov, 2012
pawsplay Since: Jan, 2001
#49: Sep 1st 2013 at 9:46:06 PM

It looks like a supertrope to me. More than anything else, it needs a better description. The idea I see is that in fiction, you often have a wan, fey female character who seems a little out-of-phrase, atopos, from the rest of the world. The Ophelia is one example, manic magic pixie girl... also the girl child from the Scarlet Letter and the daughter from the movie Carousel, the girl in Castle in the Sky.

Actual, Strange Boy seems equally valid, and doesn't seem to be all that different. Powder, from Powder; Benny from Benny and Joon; the boy in Frankenweenie, etc.

Maybe should be renamed to Strange Waif and made gender neutral?

AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Since: Jul, 2012 Relationship Status: Mu
No, the other one.
#50: Sep 1st 2013 at 10:00:33 PM

The main reason I see it not working is that people (especially in TRS) have a tendency to view anything without clear definitions and boundaries as undefinable and not tropes.

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30th Jun '13 6:26:21 AM

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