Hitman: Agent 47

http://www.polygon.com/2013/2/6/3958310/fox-to-reboot-hitman-movie-with-the-previous-hitman-films-producers

Well, hopefully they can do a better job than last ti...

...OK, that's kind of a bad sign but maybe we'll be pleasantly surpri...

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO-

edited 6th Feb '13 9:05:35 AM by Psyclone

Is it really a reboot if they only did one?

"War without fire is like sausages without mustard." - Jean Juvénal des Ursins

It is if they decide to completely scrap what the other one did.

And I viewed the original movie as what it was: an action movie based, I'm guessing loosely , on a video game. I've only played the second one.

edited 6th Feb '13 11:09:45 AM by Journeyman

The trailer is out. In a word: AAAARGH.

First, the plot. Some crappy knock-off of the first and third game. And, of course, a forced-in Damsel in Distress (and if it turns out she's some crappy knock-off of Absolution's Victoria, I'm out.

Second: the amount of shitty explosions. Too many explosions. And they're shitty.

Third: props. What the shit, a CX 4?! Nope Thrice, yo.

Fourth: remember the trailer for Fincher's The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo? Yes. This.

"what the complete, unabridged, 4k ultra HD fuck with bonus features" - Mark Von Lewis

He's too actiony. But at least they did the disguises thing a bit in the trailer.

Also, he ISN'T the hero. They appear to be doing a "Day of the Jackal" with 47 as the Terminator / Jackal threat pursuing the "good guys".

Of course he'll do a heel face turn later as it'll turn out he isn't trying to kill the "daughter" of the Agent program maker, but instead wants to find the maker to STOP more Agents being made.

Frankly, better than Timothy Oliphant and, whilst there are set pieces of action, if they can have a few scenes of quiet infiltration, then I'll be happy.

I think the trailer looks pretty decent! I'm cautiously interested in seeing this.

Oh I infinitely prefer the tone and I am cautiously optimistic; compared to the original film, this can't be to obad, surely ;)

So long as there's no sudden dual knife fight in the middle, I'm good.

Bruh, I've seen the near-final (or was it final?) script for the first movie. It was a last-second Executive Meddling that turned an enjoyable story fit for the Hitman universe into an unwatchable piece of shit.

• Instead of stock footage jacked from Dark Angel spliced throughout the movie, there is one flashback in the beginning that serves as a Shout-Out to the Meat King's Party level from the second game.
• It's not the Agency who chases 47 throughout the movie. It's Spetsnaz under orders from agent Markov.
• To drive the point that Spetsnaz is bad home, the script includes some gratuitous scenes of brutality in Chechnya.
• There is no lame-ass swordfight on the train.
• It turns out that 47 was hired by Markov in a particularly complicated Xanatos Gambit.
• The Russian president has two body doubles. One of them is Markov's willing puppet and something of a sociopath who routinely abuses Nika.
• Agent Smith has 47 assassinate Udre Belicoff for a reason, namely an assload of radioactive material he has for sale.
• The recording Whittier gets by planting a bug from 47's gear case on Markov is given to a Russian general working against Markov.

"what the complete, unabridged, 4k ultra HD fuck with bonus features" - Mark Von Lewis

The second trailer is out.

I Knew It!.

The Damsel in Distress is a Victoria knockoff, in not so much distress after all, and 47 decides to give her some Training from Hell. Then they take exploding, flaming revenge on the Agency.

Without latex nuns and Robert Rodriguez directing, this film will be a dull affair.

"what the complete, unabridged, 4k ultra HD fuck with bonus features" - Mark Von Lewis

I dunno still looks like a good popcorn movie.

Yeah, that's what I thought. Doesn't mean I'd pay money for it though.

t-t-t-t-t-TORR*fwipfwip*

Holy shit the effects look so awful.

So the title of this thread implies that their was a hitman movie before(that I seemed to have forgot), was it bad? Or was it one of those movies that was just really mediocre?

My Tumblr "If theirs one thing I'm good at, it's blowing" Jesse Cox 2013

It was really mediocre, yeah. And 47's backstory in that movie deviated from established game canon (he's raised by the Vatican or whatever, instead of being a genetically engineered clone).

edited 8th Jul '15 2:26:58 PM by higherbrainpattern

Only thing I cared about in that movie was the Fanservice, and this is a series that's better focusing on the character and the guns than a half naked woman, even if she is Olga Kurylenko.

Well, it did worse.

It used footage from Dark Angel to depict Hitman's backstory. That, and Executive Meddling crapped all over pretty decent script.

"what the complete, unabridged, 4k ultra HD fuck with bonus features" - Mark Von Lewis

Third trailer. Turns out that Zachary Quinto's character is some goddamned ARMORED PIG. "Subdermal titanium armor" that breaks knives, are you shitting me, people?!

"what the complete, unabridged, 4k ultra HD fuck with bonus features" - Mark Von Lewis

I have such a sinking feeling in my stomach about this movie.

See, that was something that really confused me. Why would they make 47 some random orphan? Why not keep him as a genetically engineered clone like in the games?

Do executives have a thing against clones or whatever?

It might be because they feel it will make the main character more sympathetic, less interchangeable.

Every time I see this thread title, I have a moment of "Wait, DC is doing a Tommy Monaghan movie? Cool!

It might be because they feel it will make the main character more sympathetic, less interchangeable.

No offense to orphans, but that's...kinda dumb. I mean, surely there's plenty of storytelling to be had with a genetically engineered clone who realizes he's just that and now has conflicting issues over whether he actually has free will and a conscience and stuff or he's doomed to follow orders to kill people because they're irredeemably evil.

EDIT: Man, this is not one of Fox's better years, huh? I mean between Fantastic Four (2015) crashing and burning like crazy and now this thing that still clashes with the games' lore...Jesus.

edited 18th Aug '15 11:40:57 AM by TargetmasterJoe

Video game movies will rarely work. In the old days they were made because of tax laws being lenient on movie-making in some areas, and they intentionally bombed to keep their status as tax shelters. Nowadays, you have to deal with the fact that you're going from an interactive form of entertainment to a passive one that spoon feeds the audience. You're always going to feel a step down, even if the plot's great. In that case, why the fuck would these writers even bother to make them good in the first place?

There are some exceptions, of course. Shit like Five Nights at Freddy's where you're just sitting there, looking around, and hitting a button to close a door? Yeah, there's not as much interactivity keeping your brain active. It's pretty much a minimal-plot movie with a gimmick.

But this series? No, I will never expect much out of a Hitman movie. When you go from something that makes YOU think through the mission and take out the target to a passive story you just watch, you're never going to be satisfied.

I'd say the reason for 47 being an orphan rather than a clone is for practicity sake, so you can cast a bunch of different people as Agents instead of having to superimpose the same actor's face over a bunch of people with CGI.

Also, I'd say it really depends on the game. A Hitman movie could work because the games have very cinematic stories of assassins, conspiracies and cold-blooded murder. A faithful adaptation would have a coolness reminiscent of Mission: Impossible (particularly 1, 3 and Ghost Protocol), where the main conflict is obtaining the objective without being detected in the most Holy Shit Quotient manner possible. And as evidenced by the resounding success of the Misison Impossible franchise, that can work.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."

There have been plenty of good Hitman films - they're just usually called Golgo 13.

The thing about the Hitman franchise is that it is designed to reward impeccably precise, carefully planned and utterly cold-blooded execution over flashy action sequences and Die Hard-style underdog tension. There's also the preconception that all modern video game movies have to be action-packed blockbusters, and that simply isn't 47's style. Storywise, he's best suited for cerebral spy thrillers like Rōnin - and I'll bet dollars to rubles his name is at least in part an allusion to the same jidai geki story as in that film. And never mind that his character is a far cry from any of the action hero archetypes used in most such films. All in all, it'll be a while yet before the video game film ghetto gets broken out of, much like animation and comic adaptations are still struggling to gain some genuine respect.

edited 18th Aug '15 1:18:37 PM by indiana404

No. Actually, it's all Fox's fault. No other studio is willing to touch video game franchises, and Fox being a parochially WASP-y company has no fucking clue about the modern pop culture.

Okay, I found the script for 2007 Hitman on my hard drive. Anyone wants to take a gander? I can post it on Dropbox or my Google Drive. It's a 4 MB PDF. And trust me, Skip Woods put some hard work into a clever script someone later wiped their ass with.

"what the complete, unabridged, 4k ultra HD fuck with bonus features" - Mark Von Lewis