The Grand Unified Appearance Trope Clean-up:

Nor the very real "on-air reporters need to be good looking for the ratings" justification. It's pure Hollywood Beauty Standards.

eta: since this is a new page—this is in reference to Fair Cop.

edited 23rd Dec '17 1:31:38 PM by Xtifr

Fair Cop seems to me like a case of Fetishized Occupation... which can apply to any occupation, BTW. Is there merit for Fetishized Occupation as a trope, if defined as "Occupation X is sexually fetishized, either by obvious sexualization on part of the creative team (e.g. wardrobe design) (i.e. out-of-universe) or by a character expressing a sexual fetish for said occupation (i.e. in-universe)"?

edited 23rd Dec '17 1:40:39 PM by MarqFJA

Fair Cop as it stands doesn't seem like Fetishized Occupation to me. But I agree that that sounds like a solid trope which probably could fit some of the examples. "I love a man in uniform."

I have seen shows in which a person does find a uniform attractive, people who joined to get a uniform because it attracts women, and a female who found her boyfriend more attractive with a uniform.

& That would be Good-Looking Privates (terrible name imo)

If I read it on face value, I thought it dealt with soldiers who are hot.

Hot Scoop has still 474 wicks.

One thing I will say about Hot Scoop that we're missing after it goes down is a place to land general News Anchor tropes, which are similar but slightly different to the Intrepid Reporter. As in what kinds of things apply to people that mainly report the news rather than chase the news.

A The News Anchor generally could be a thing TLP, since being on camera may demand a certain level of self presentation (looks, personality, charisma when doing on camera interviews) not just a YMMV Fetishized Occupation. But it can have a note in it that covers things like the tendecy for this person to also by a Ms. Fanservice and the things that go with it as an In-Universe Sexposition, you need someone to read the news for info but why not have the person doing it be eyecandy.

edited 31st Dec '17 3:15:06 PM by acrobox

The News Anchor may be a good trope but only tangentially related to this one. As for Attractive Anchor, I am too sleepy to point out the specific points but no that is a bad idea, like all other "Attractive Profession" tropes.

Yeah, ninja edit, Attractive Anchor as a focus can have problems, but a main News Anchor that mentions that theres a tendency to have them also be a Fanservice character could work.

I do think it might be worth splitting Hired for Their Looks into a trope about pervy bosses and such, and a trope about hotness as a job requirement (on-air or on-stage talent). But that may be outside the scope of this discussion.

Agreed. If someone were to post a link to a tropeworthy TLP then I would consider it. Otherwise, we should stay on our clean up task.

I've been referred to this thread on the topic of a description tweak proposal for Hot Blooded Sideburns, considering that it's an Appearance Trope. I'll be copy-pasting my original post, then quoting the response that referred me to here.

Link to original post

A recent discussion in the Neon Genesis Evangelion thread about Hot Blooded Sideburns has yielded a suggestion that said trope's description may stand to be tweaked such that it clearly states female characters with earlocks (or sidelocks, or whatever you call them) that resemble actual sideburns (which are Always Male) can qualify as examples of the trope.

Examples of what I'm talking about:

• Google up any image of Cutey Honey's eponymous protagonist. As Honey Kisaragi, her sidelocks are just part of her Hime Cut hairstyle; but as the superheroine Cutey Honey, they become longer, messier and looser, resembling the actual sideburns that are typical of Go Nagai's other works (fun fact: Hot Blooded Sideburns are so omnipresent in Go Nagai works that they used to be called Go Nagai Sideburns).
• More relevant to the aforementioned NGE thread discussion: Asuka Langley Soryu on the rare occasions that she wears her hair down. For the record, she's a deconstruction of Hot-Blooded.
  • Exhibit A: Episode 9, when Asuka makes her first appearance in Misato's apartment.◊
  • Exhibit B: Episode 22, when Asuka is talking to herself in the shower.◊

We'd appreciate some additional feedback on the matter.

Response by Water Blap:

Regarding Hot Blooded Sideburns, as long as the character fits the personality requirements of the trope, I think it ought to be flexible enough to include women with earlocks (or w/e they're called). Though just because a character is Hot-Blooded doesn't necessarily mean their hair is Hot Blooded Sideburns? I would think the appearance needs to be consistent...? Maybe ask the appearance trope thread, idk.

PS: At the very least, this should be added to our to-do list.

edited 9th Jan '18 3:40:15 PM by MarqFJA

Only if they are spiky and below ear lengths like Kagura in Azumanga Daioh imo.

Asuka herself is an ur of Fiery Redhead Tsundere which really doesn’t match the set the room on fire Hot-Blooded competitive spirit that is the trope. Not to mention that she uses the Tsundere standard pigtails.

edited 9th Jan '18 11:40:30 PM by Memers

Seconded. The side burns have to be either long, messy and loose, or below the ear and spikey, along with the associated personality type. Just being hotblooded and having ear locks isn't enough.

First off, why does it have to be spiky and messy when Go Nagai himself, i.e. the guy who practically codified if not invented the hairstyle in question, doesn't do either of those when he gave a similar hairstyle for female characters he created, such as his very much Hot-Blooded superheroine character Cutey Honey (whom I've already cited)? [1]◊

Second off... Have you even looked at the pictures I've provided for Asuka before dismissing her? Her earlocks don't just extended below ear level, they reach all the way to her shoulders.

edited 10th Jan '18 5:09:36 PM by MarqFJA

The fact that they extend to her shoulders is the problem, she is just letting her hair down and has standard sidelocks, at most she would have Tomboyish Sidetails which was cut long again by this very thread I believe. And I disagreed with it then as it is an anime and manga trope with a ton of examples, it got redirected to a trope that is unrelated and doesn’t even have the trope in its image.

Cutey Honey is a great example of Hot Blooded Sideburns and completely fits the personality.

edited 12th Jan '18 9:34:06 AM by Memers

I have to agree with . Her hair coincidentally forming sidelocks when it's down isn't enough to qualify her IMO, especially since she's just as much of a spitfire when her hair's up (for appearance comparison: 1◊, 2◊).

I was asked via PM to comment, so I should say something, I guess. However, my quoted comment is really all I can say and it looks like I agree with most others here. The trope can include women, but they have to be hot-blooded (and all that it entails and requires), and have a consistent appearance with the sideburns/earlocks/etc.

I really have nothing to say on the animes or specific examples like Cutey Honey that anyone else hasn't said.

Hot Scoop's wick count has been reduced to 325.

Update BUMB!

Hot Scoop's wick count has been reduced to 297

Edit: Hot Scoop has 257 wicks now.

edited 10th Feb '18 4:37:11 PM by WhirlRX

Update BUMB! The total is now 238

Yet another update: Hot Scoop has 143 wicks now.

I've been trying to get the page on Funny Afro changed for a while and since it's an appearance trope, I thought I'd try posting here. Basically, funny afro's description is bad and is leading to people to misapply it/apply it too broadly.

Here's what I've written under the page's discussion section:

This trope is not being used correctly when it is being added to trope pages. Take for example the addition of it under Uvogin's character description from Hunter x Hunter. Or even the High School Musical/Corbin Bleu tag on the page itself. "Funny Afro" should only be used when the afro is acknowledged by the characters in the medium as funny or when it is used by the creator to make gags or jokes. Basically, it's not enough for a character to have an afro for it to be an example of this trope, as afros in of themselves aren't inherently funny. For a large portion of the global population an afro is just how hair grows.

Also, the description as written on this page makes it seem as if this is an anime specific trope (the 'odd hairstyles being "par for the course"' opening with it even linking to Anime Hair). This should be changed since, yet again, calling afros "odd" when it's just how hair grows out of literally millions of people's head is more than a little strange. And because this trope is clearly not anime specific.