On TV Tropes, it's very common for editors to misuse appearance tropes, as well as tropes whose names make them sound like they could be appearance tropes.
Meaningful Appearance tropes are often misused in ways that overlook the "Meaningful" aspect, resulting in Zero Context Examples and misuse in the form of examples that have no meaning even if the tropes themselves are not People Sit on Chairs.
The Appearance Tropes Cleanup sandbox covers tropes with potential issues. Tropes that simply require cleanup will go through this thread, while tropes that require more significant action will have to go through the Trope Repair Shop.
April 2, 2023 update: This thread is no longer for making changes to tropes, and was brought back from the Projects Morgue solely for cleanup. Making changes to tropes is still a job for the Trope Repair Shop.
Edited by GastonRabbit on Apr 2nd 2023 at 9:18:26 AM
Alright, Hollywood Beauty Standards is finally launched.
I've attached a single proposition crowner for cutting/redirecting Hot Scoop to Hollywood Beauty Standards.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
Say, have we ever discussed the idea of attractiveness being stereotypically associated with certain occupations, and/or vice versa?
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No. Also, such an association existing and people being able to trope it are two distinct considerations.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
I recall discussing plots that are stereotypically associated with certain professions (Florence Nightingale Effect with a nurse, for instance, or Teacher/Student Romance). By virtue of Hollywood Beauty Standards, the person in the given profession would be hot without a doubt. However, "certain professions being intrinsically hot" is not something I think was addressed directly. I, for one, don't think so. I don't think people would be able to trope it. They'd just slap the trope on any character that was in a given profession because of Hollywood Beauty Standards.
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
Well, what about a general trope that revolves around how a character's attractiveness is either enhanced or (in case they're physically "plain" and unremarkable) entirely contingent on them holding a certain occupation because said job is considered prestigious/glamorous in and of itself? Basically, when you ask "Why do you think Alex is hot?", you'd get "Because he's a doctor/scientist/policeman/soldier, duh!" kind of answer.
It might be just me, but that seems to be a logical approach to dealing with Hot Occupation tropes; lump them all into one single trope, and disallow the creation of any occupation-specific subtropes unless there's a really damn good reason for doing so.
edited 8th Sep '17 4:49:38 PM by MarqFJA
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That seems to be more a character reaction thing akin to Informed Attractiveness. Portrayals aimed at the audience are too subtle to make good tropes.
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Agreed and I have another point. The occupation could just be a fetish, which we don't list on this site (anymore).
Bumping for more votes.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Mweheheh
Voted yay on the merge.
Should Shes Got Legs go on the watchlist? It was misused in the past, but I don't know if that's persisted.
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Could get re work of Showing Some Legs of people who show their bare legs to get attention.
It has been one month and we have a 5.5:1 ratio. I say we call this one.
Calling crowner in favour of cutting Hot Scoop and merging it into Hollywood Beauty Standards.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
I'm fine with it.
Just to be clear, does this means putting Hot Scoop on the Cut List and mentioning its contents on Hollywood Beauty Standards or does it mean turning Hot Scoop into a redirect for Hollywood Beauty Standards?
Redirect and delete wicks unless they can be transferred to Hollywood Beauty Standards.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
World's Toughest Milkman
Or another appropriate trope, such as Hired for Their Looks.
Speaking words of fandom: let it squee, let it squee.
I've reduced Hot Scoop's wick count to 556.
Update bumb. The count is now 518
If Hot Scoop is used for characters in comic books, literature or animation works (neither of which have a real-life actor portraying them), should it still be replaced with Hollywood Beauty Standards or cut all together?
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In drawn works any appearance is 100% intentional and under complete control of the artist, IMO it should stay on the trope while the RL examples go.
It ain’t Hollywood anything.
edited 9th Dec '17 11:44:03 PM by Memers
I don't think it'd be a trope beyond Fanservice there, though.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Consider giving Fair Cop the same scrutiny.
I honestly thought it meant A honest Cop. Very misleading.
That would be By-the-Book Cop.
But yeah that trope needs to go, it doesn’t even have the sex gets you a scoop stereotype inherent with Hot Scoop.
No, these people ought to be pointed to Meaningful Appearance first.
Question I posted in the Hollywood Beauty Standards TLP: Should that trope be about Hollywood only or casting in general? Are the examples given enough to launch? Answer in the TLP, please!
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman