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Prematurely launched pages and pages that weren't fully fleshed out at the point of launching, are a big problem. Since these usually share several problems at once, this thread is aimed at re-running them through the TLP for fixing - the usual fix - or cutting them if they are too bad.

Problems this thread deals with include bad names, not enough/bad examples, unclear description, etc.

For the interested, here's a list of recently created pages. Launches

Note: Please do not request a mod to unlaunch drafts that don't have any issues besides lacking a launch notice/24hr launch notice. While 24hr launch notices are mandatory, there are a few exceptions to the rule. If you see a draft's sponsor launch a TLP without an announcement, it's best to remind them of our TLP Guidelines first. If they continue to repeatedly launch drafts without a launch notice, you can report them on Ask The Tropers or the TLP Community Issues thread.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jun 24th 2023 at 12:24:55 PM

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#601: Aug 5th 2013 at 2:08:41 PM

Anyone in disagreement with that?

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#603: Aug 7th 2013 at 12:09:38 AM

Girly Name. Created just a few days ago, seems redundant to Gender-Blender Name.

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#605: Aug 7th 2013 at 9:24:57 AM

^Maybe.

Also, Girls Love Perfume.

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XFllo There is no Planet B from Planet A Since: Aug, 2012
There is no Planet B
#607: Aug 8th 2013 at 6:42:37 AM

Girly Name doesn't seem to have any archived ykttw discussion.

Neither does Girls Love Perfume.

I'll PM the tropers who launched those pages. Everybody was a newbie once, but don't people read administrivia before they start editing?

I'd even argue for a cut with the perfume page. There are no examples and I don't think majority of movies and other fiction happen to mention perfumes. Only some. And the thing that there are people allergic to perfumes seems chairsy to me. There are people allergic to lots of things, but unless there is a pattern in stories and meaning behind it, it's not a trope.

edited 8th Aug '13 6:50:03 AM by XFllo

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#608: Aug 8th 2013 at 6:48:46 AM

People don't read policy pages very often before they start contributing.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
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The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#609: Aug 8th 2013 at 7:27:05 AM

Which is why I advocate for an introductory message upon registering a new account, that highly recommends looking over the rules and guidelines (with or without links to the administrivia page), as a sort of disclaimer message.

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
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#610: Aug 8th 2013 at 7:31:47 AM

I am sure we already have that.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#611: Aug 8th 2013 at 8:30:53 AM

For Girly Name: I think just Gender-Blender Name covers it just fine. If we move the guys with feminine names from it, then GBN isn't going to have much left on it. Well, it'll have purely ambiguous names on it, which is something, I suppose. Just my two cents.

Cut Girls Love Perfume, though. For sure. That said, Men Hate Perfume might be a legitimate trope, based on how men (usually blue-collar or manly men) react poorly to the smell of perfume.

edited 8th Aug '13 8:32:30 AM by Larkmarn

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#612: Aug 11th 2013 at 5:20:41 PM

Froshmore Year just launched with one hat... it's just Second Year Protagonist with a more obtuse name.

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#613: Aug 11th 2013 at 11:18:11 PM

Yep, that is 100% duplicate. Toss it onto the cutlist and message the troper.

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#614: Aug 12th 2013 at 5:33:18 AM

Will do.

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#615: Aug 12th 2013 at 10:56:00 AM

CB Cook 55 restored the once-cut Perhaps You Were Expecting A Trope page as a stub.

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#616: Aug 12th 2013 at 11:35:36 AM

Re-cutlisted it.

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#617: Aug 13th 2013 at 3:38:14 AM

While cleaning up Bad Writing wicks, I came across the tropeless stub Fleet And Federation.

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#618: Aug 14th 2013 at 1:03:51 PM

We've got an IP thread tied to Girly Name; is that one going to be cut?

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#619: Aug 14th 2013 at 1:05:06 PM

I think that would qualify as "cutlist and message the creating troper". Someone will have to take the latter step as I do not currently have an idea how to write it.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#620: Aug 15th 2013 at 12:31:43 AM

And in other news, Talent Bomb. An exampleless stub. Also, the troper in question seems to have an history of creating pages without YKTTW.

Same for There Are No Toddlers.

edited 15th Aug '13 2:38:27 AM by SeptimusHeap

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#621: Aug 15th 2013 at 1:15:37 PM

[up] I'm not even sure what the former is. The best guess I can give is a movie with an All-Star Cast that sucked, which would just make it complaining.

I'm not really sure what to do with the latter. On one hand, it seems like it's trivia, but on the other, it has no examples, and I have no idea how we would even collect any.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#622: Aug 15th 2013 at 1:31:44 PM

That seems to be a good argument for cutting both.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#623: Aug 16th 2013 at 3:28:20 PM

Afrofuturism: One sentence stub.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#625: Aug 17th 2013 at 12:55:26 AM

Done.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman

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