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Prematurely launched pages and pages that weren't fully fleshed out at the point of launching, are a big problem. Since these usually share several problems at once, this thread is aimed at re-running them through the TLP for fixing - the usual fix - or cutting them if they are too bad.

Problems this thread deals with include bad names, not enough/bad examples, unclear description, etc.

For the interested, here's a list of recently created pages. Launches

Note: Please do not request a mod to unlaunch drafts that don't have any issues besides lacking a launch notice/24hr launch notice. While 24hr launch notices are mandatory, there are a few exceptions to the rule. If you see a draft's sponsor launch a TLP without an announcement, it's best to remind them of our TLP Guidelines first. If they continue to repeatedly launch drafts without a launch notice, you can report them on Ask The Tropers or the TLP Community Issues thread.

Edited by MacronNotes on Jun 24th 2023 at 12:24:55 PM

alnair20aug93 🍊orange fursona🧡 from Furrypines (Long Runner) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
🍊orange fursona🧡
#5351: Aug 24th 2017 at 5:31:17 AM

Somebody named Indiana Park Wars launched Deadly Book without removing the [Launching Within One Day].

edited 24th Aug '17 6:04:31 AM by alnair20aug93

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jormis29 Since: Mar, 2012
#5352: Aug 24th 2017 at 6:40:41 AM

A quick look at TabletopGame.Fantasy Girl Group Campaign doesn't suggest that it is a tabletop game, it is full of ZC Es and a few other problems

Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#5353: Aug 24th 2017 at 7:59:15 AM

Furry Lens got launched at 5 hats in only 7 days with no warning or fanfare.

Aside from the decidedly inscrutable name, I agree with every criticism in the YKTTW, which, while they were technically addressed, were essentially brushed off.

[up] Pretty sure it's someone troping their own D&D campaign, which seems like something we wouldn't have here. I messaged them about stub and Zero Context. Hopefully they'll de-stub it a bit and we can figure out if it's something we'd trope.

Out of curiosity, if there is a documented D&D campaign, what namespace would we put that under?

edited 24th Aug '17 8:03:08 AM by Larkmarn

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#5354: Aug 24th 2017 at 8:22:36 AM

~Carliro?

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Carliro My Patreon from My Patreon Since: Jul, 2017 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
My Patreon
#5355: Aug 24th 2017 at 8:26:22 AM

"Brushed off"? I addressed the criticisms, with few counter-arguments so far.

My Patreon. It is my life.
Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#5356: Aug 24th 2017 at 8:32:27 AM

I mean, how is "I think so" not a brush off? Especially since the criticism (that there's not enough examples to split it off from another trope, making it The Same But More Specific) isn't actually addressed and the small number of examples doesn't exactly lend itself to being a self-explanatory answer.

I'm not saying you did anything wrong, it's more a critique on the TLP system and the ease that tropes can get launched.

edited 24th Aug '17 8:33:00 AM by Larkmarn

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Derkhan Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: Charming Titania with a donkey face
#5357: Aug 25th 2017 at 12:36:49 PM

Characters.Terra Ignota was created four days ago and I'm bringing it here because I am not sure how to proceed. It has the makings of a good characters page, but no tropes so far and the work page doesn't have enough to fill it in. A sandbox would've been a much better choice of namespaces for this as it is now. Anyway, I sent a stub notifier. Do I wait for a response and send it to the cutlist if I receive no reply?

Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
Derkhan Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: Charming Titania with a donkey face
#5359: Aug 27th 2017 at 9:19:52 AM

I have messaged the troper who made the page twice now, the second time with a non-standard message explaining the use of the Sandbox namespace for pages still under construction. Since they've edited in the meantime without replying, I've put the page on the Cutlist.

lakingsif Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
#5360: Aug 27th 2017 at 2:33:02 PM

Furry Lens desperately needs a better name, and some more time in TLP

OH MY GOD; MY PARENTS ARE GARDENIIIIINNNNGGGGG!!!!!
jormis29 Since: Mar, 2012
#5361: Aug 29th 2017 at 7:00:31 PM

Viga Loves Comics and The Apartment On Third Street is mostly a copy of the standard template and no examples

New account StupidMinotaur created a few pages that need work in most aspects

VideoGame.Enzai may be the same work as VisualNovel.Enzai which appears to be have been cut under 5P

edited 29th Aug '17 7:27:23 PM by jormis29

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#5362: Aug 29th 2017 at 9:29:13 PM

Video Game.Enzai may be the same work as Visual Novel.Enzai which appears to be have been cut under 5P
No maybe about it. It is the same work.

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#5363: Aug 29th 2017 at 10:45:13 PM

Sent to 5P then.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Anddrix Since: Oct, 2014
#5364: Aug 30th 2017 at 1:39:01 AM

Where'd You Go, Bernadette? was created almost 2 months ago and so far has only one trope. I've messaged the page's creator 3 days ago but they haven't responded.

Jodorowsky's Dune was created on the 7th of August and has only 2 examples and is un-indexed. I sent 2 editing messages to the page's creator on the 18th, they responded back... asking how you make a custom title and not even mentioning what I'd messaged them about.

Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#5365: Aug 30th 2017 at 8:19:17 AM

Splatter Horror launched with 6 hats, 1 bomb and enough unresolved issues it needed more discussion.

Furry Lens still needs to go back, if only for the name.

edited 30th Aug '17 8:19:58 AM by Larkmarn

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WaterBlap Blapper of Water Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Blapper of Water
#5366: Aug 30th 2017 at 11:11:15 AM

I agree that Furry Lens needs to be unlaunched. The name is not clear.

Look at all that shiny stuff ain't they pretty
jormis29 Since: Mar, 2012
#5367: Aug 31st 2017 at 2:58:07 AM

Characters.Signal Firefly doesn't seem connected to anything and not much in the way of content

Kingof Idol is full of ZC Es, it is badly formatted, it has no description and other problems

Adventures In Aurora appears to be a personal campaign rather then a game

edited 31st Aug '17 4:20:52 AM by jormis29

WaterBlap Blapper of Water Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Blapper of Water
#5368: Aug 31st 2017 at 5:17:21 AM

Characters.Signal Firefly was created by ~Signal Firefly, so I think that's the tropers original characters. Maybe they can discuss where they can put that information? (Probably their troper page or the Characters/ page of the RP or fanfic those characters appear in.)

I don't know about Adventures In Aurora. So long as it's publically available, it could theoretically stay after some clean-up... It's been worked on by ~Legendwriter and ~Hydriatus, so maybe they can help clear things up.

I sent indentation and ZCE notifiers to the person who made King Of Idol.

edited 31st Aug '17 5:17:32 AM by WaterBlap

Look at all that shiny stuff ain't they pretty
jormis29 Since: Mar, 2012
#5369: Aug 31st 2017 at 6:02:41 AM

Analysis.Death Note Rules Of The Death Note and YMMV.Live Action TV appear to be misplaced

edited 31st Aug '17 6:02:54 AM by jormis29

WaterBlap Blapper of Water Since: May, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Blapper of Water
#5370: Sep 2nd 2017 at 12:01:34 AM

Brought in from ATT (courtesy link).

Artistic License – Politics was launched early. There were unaddressed concerns that it would attract Flame Bait, and also concerns that it should focus on different elements of politics than it currently does. Other concerns include it not being cross-wicked or indexed, and it only having one example.

Somehow, it gained 8 hats (with 2 bombs making a net 6 hats). Here's a link to the draft: link. The last comment on the draft was 27 August but it was launched 1 September.

edited 2nd Sep '17 12:01:48 AM by WaterBlap

Look at all that shiny stuff ain't they pretty
SignalFirefly Since: Oct, 2009
#5371: Sep 2nd 2017 at 3:15:21 AM

Whoops, I didn't expect anyone to notice that page, since I didn't index it or anything. There isn't a work page to attach it to, so I can just move it to my troper page.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#5372: Sep 4th 2017 at 11:01:18 AM

I hit the Random Media button and wound up with, Demolition Squad, a page whose description is one big run-on sentence. It had eight tropes, five of which are Zero Context Examples, one of which, Immaculate Conception, wasn't a trope, and there were issues with formatting and alphabetizing. After making the relevant fixes, it's only got two entries and even then Art Shift might yet be a ZCE (I tend to be a big generous).

I sent the person who made the page, movie007, a Stub PM, but their last edit is in May 2012, their last general edit is so far back the edit history's empty, their last forum post was July 2014, and the last mention of them in Ask The Tropers is September of last year, so not holding out hope here will be a resposne.

Still, since I already sent the PM and it directs people here, I'm posting on the off-chance they show up and so as to not go too far unilaterally.

edited 4th Sep '17 6:16:54 PM by sgamer82

Berrenta How sweet it is from Texas Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Can't buy me love
How sweet it is
#5373: Sep 4th 2017 at 7:36:28 PM

[up] Checked info on that user, and they were last seen May of this year. There appears to be an edit around then, but for a page that was likely cut.

As for that page, it's pretty stubby. Might as well cut it.

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#5374: Sep 4th 2017 at 10:07:28 PM

Cut request submitted. Should I do anything about the redlinks, since they're usually left in to encourage making a page?

jormis29 Since: Mar, 2012
#5375: Sep 5th 2017 at 6:01:07 AM

Analysis.The Secretof NIMH doesn't appear to have muchh in he way of analysis


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