All Purpose Super Robot Wars Fanfiction Thread

Oh hay u gaiz.

Bad grammar aside, I've got a fic that I've been working on for a while:

Super Robot Wars U

So far it's received positive input, but I want someone to seriously take a look at it. Read it all the way through up to its current point, and then give me an honest review, even.

Yes, I'm aware of things like grammar errors, missing words etc. and will fix them one day.

But I want someone to look at the flow, the characterization, the descriptions and the like. Do I handle inter-series relationships well? What about my choices for changing the plots of different series? Go ahead, rip into it if need be.

Also, is it bad form to make a Tropes page for your own fanfic? I'm guessing it is, but I just thought I'd ask.

It's not terribly bad form to trope your own fic, but it is bad form to fill out its own Awesome, Funny, Heartwarming, etc. pages yourself.

It's even worse form to put your own fic in Fanfic Recs.

What shows are used in your fic, before I take a look at it?

EDIT: Having taken a look, I would've rather seen Gundam Wing, Ideon, and Tekkaman Blade over some of the UC Gundam, but oh well. I'll read through the fic when I get the time.

edited 3rd Dec '12 8:47:25 AM by EvaUnit01

I thought it would have thought those three been too hard to fit as it was. The other UC series were easy to just lump with Char's Counterattack. Besides, I was itching to do something with Zeta.

Here is a bunch of Super Robot Wars yonkoma, some of which might be fanfic fuel in the waiting.

A idea of a Girls und Panzer crossover that I posted somewhere else was that after solving the mess with the aliens, interdimensional invaders, time travelers, ancestral races and everuthing else, earth actually got some measure of peace. That everyone knew probably wouldn't last long.

Due to the union of Earth's goverments during the time of crisis deciding to autlaw large scale conflict using multi terrain weapon plataforms (a.k.a Giant Robots) and having the power to enforce it, many companies found themselves on the verge of bankrupcy. Because twenty meter tall (or bigger) implements of war don't sell all that well when you don't have a alien invasion or two to fight off.

So as to find more clients and not get themselves shot to death by the police. Those companies choose what many considered the easy way out: Sports.

You see, with the many thecnologies developed, tested and used during the war(s), it actually became possible to make Giant Robot Combat a viable safe sport to the point where even untrained people could participate.

edited 2nd Apr '13 11:54:05 AM by minusmagniaxe

What, you mean like G Gundam or that episode of Full Metal Panic Fumoffu?

Yeah, but with a much bigger budget. And anough participipants and mechs to call a single match a actual war. And desperate businessmen that don't have much else to lose.

Ah, so... county-wide Super Robot paintball/laser tag?

I wouldn't go that far, but yeah.

Also some ideas based on the SRW J.

• The tale of how the many mech crews on good guys' side went trough herculean effort of turning Boss Borot into a half decent, reliable machine.
• Chidori (from Full Metal Panic) fell asleep on the cafeteria of the Nadesico at some point. The problem, you see, is that she sleeptalk, but what she mumble about is actually secrettechnology from the future. What happened is that someone from the tech crew overheard and -figuring that it wasn't just rubish- used it to make some revolutionary piece of tech that could easily change the tides of the war. From that it is either crack, where the Nadesico crew steamroll everything in it's way with an army of Lambda Drive powered Bonta-Kun's. Or drama, where the good guys have to face the consequences of making the war escalate.

edited 7th Apr '13 9:48:15 AM by minusmagniaxe

I probably think that's Chidori.

Fixed.

No problem. Glad to help.

Had an idea to try a Super Robot War featuring Mobile Fighter G Gundam, Mazinkaiser, Martian Successor Nadesico [[hottip**series only]], Gao Gai Gar + FINAL, Tekkaman Blade, Gunbuster, one incarnation or other of Getter Robo, and Neon Genesis Evangelion.

Purely for some kind of scene where all the Hot-Blooded pilots do their over-the-top attack-calling *

Actually, the EVA kids can do the screaming thing without even needing to call the attack.

Observe:

Oh, I know that Mari and Asuka are fairly Hot-Blooded - hell, even Shinji can tend towards being a Screaming Warrior when he's in the groove - it was just meant as a joke.

Video isn't working on this computer right now, so I'll have to check that later.

The point is, in Super Robot Wars, Shinji and Asuka suddenly have a healthy release for that bottled-up anger. Although if someone reminded Shinji that there were people on board that battleship he sliced up, it'd be right back to curling up in a non-responsive fetal position.

Yup. Still, not such a problem with non-manned weapons (like most of what the Jovians use), or other straight-up robots like Dr. Hell's Mechanical Beasts, or the Dark Gundam's robot-zombie Legion of Doom (it'd be less of an issue because the mooks, if they even have pilots, are already dead).

Given his lack of guilt over killing Angels (Kaworu notwithstanding), he'd probably not have too much trouble fighting the Dinosaur Empire's Mechasaurus units either.

As for units that are piloted by fellow human beings - such as Mobile Suits and the like - I'm sure something or other could be worked out, and GGG already has things taken care of where Zonders are concerned.

Yeah, but then you have enemies like the Principality of Zion, who definitely crew their ships and 'mechs. The reason Shinji could work off killing the Angels is because they were so different that there was no humanizing element to them; I mean, you probably wouldn't be all that shaken up over killing a sentient tetrahedron, would you? But if Shnji realizes he's been killing actual human beings, he'd just shut down again, probably never step inside EVA-01 ever again.

Of course I know that.

However, recall that Shinji did manage to come back after almost killing Toji (actually killing him in the manga, and almost killing Asuka in Rebuild), even if it was from circumstances beyond his control.

So if he's got the right emotional support group, it's not impossible for him to resolve that, yes, sometimes he'd have to kill other people in order to protect yet more people.

'Specially if they - by which I mean NERV - pull a Sadistic Choice type of stunt like at the start of NGE - "get out there and fight, or your new friends are going to die because you didn't have the guts to protect them."

But then he killed Kaworu, and the state he sank into there formed the climax of the series. How do you think he'd react after finding out he killed 300-400 people on board that cruiser?

I think there's more to it, though - his main support group has been steadily dwindling. Rei's... different from how she used to be, Asuka's catatonic from undergoing Mind Rape, Toji's either still in intensive care or evacuated with Kensuke, Misato's more distant than normal...

So really, by the time Kaworu bit the dust, Shinji didn't have anyone left to help him through it, exactly as planned.

Of course, I imagine Shinji would be much more torn up about killing Kaworu - who was genuinely, unconditionally nice and friendly to him, and even asked to be killed rather than let humanity go extinct - than the faceless crew of some battleship that's trying to put a Wave-Motion Gun through his brain.

That wouldn't make it right - even Faceless Goons have loved ones - but it would make it easier on him. Plus, Shinji would presumably have a much more effective network of friends and comrades to help him, both in battle and on the home front.

... Now I'm trying to imagine Shinji, Akito, and Sai Saici in a cooking contest.

I disagree; Shinji's entire purpose is to deconstruct the cliches of the super robot genre. I would rather see him remain that way in a fanfic. Thus, after the realization hits him, we don't see EVA-01 deployed for a very long time, probably not once again for the entire story. And the other pilots' attempts to get him back in that thing just make him see them as bloodthirsty morons and grow even more distant. Because that's what would happen if an average kid was in that situation.

Fun fact: The Getter crew kind of are bloodthirsty morons.

That aside, Evangelion is a massive deconstruction. That's old news.

SRW, however, I think is more apt to play things straight and/or reconstruct the tropes whenever possible, and I'm typically of the same mind. Since this is an SRW type of fic we're discussing (that happens to include NGE) and not a proper NGE fic, I should think it fitting that the Eva kids have reactions and Character Development along similar lines to NGE's previous appearances in SRW games.

For the brief lineup I suggested for my story, though, this is almost a non-factor in the first place.

• Mazinsaga: Mostly unmanned robots.
• Getter Robo: If I go with the original manga, then mostly robot-dinosaurs.
• Gunbuster: Starfish Aliens.
• Gao Gai Gar: Zonders that use innocent people for power cores, but it's a non-issue because GGG has the equipment to extract the cores before destroying the mecha and Mamoru can purify them on-site.
• Mobile Fighter G Gundam: There's not a whole lot of reason for Evangelions to get involved in the Gundam Fight to start with, the Dark Gundam is an Eldritch Abomination whose first power core - Kyoji - could do with a Mercy Kill, and the second - Rain - is safely rescued with The Power of Love. The Dark Army is a legion of Mobile Suits animated by DG Cells, and IIRC without pilots. If they do have pilots, then they're zombies. Admittedly, there is Master Asia and DG Cell-corrupted Michelo Chariot and Gentle Chapman to think about, but they're going to be focused on the Shuffle Alliance anyway.
• Tekkaman Blade: The Radam are Starfish Aliens. Admittedly, that doesn't help too much with the Tekkamen, but again, they're going to be mostly focused on D-Boy.
• Nadesico: First half or so involves unmanned units, which are not a problem. Second half involves the piloted Gekiganger-type Super Robots, which, yeah, Shinji's probably going to have trouble fighting, but a) there's a crapton of allies who can deal with that instead, and b) I'm positive that between NERV, GGG, the Space Knights, and the Nadesico, someone can figure out a way to disable them without killing the pilots, or Shinji can possibly focus on fighting other enemies in the first place.

That's why I dislike the idea of sticking Evangelion in SRW. I don't care how popular it is in Japan, I don't care that Anno wanted them in the game, I think sticking these characters, whose sole purpose is to show how implausible and psychologically damaging the tropes of Super Robot anime really would be, in a series that plays those same tropes straight, doesn't work unless you're willing to keep tearing the genre down. Shinji is not Amuro Ray, or Duke Freed, or any Super Robot pilot, he's just a kid with a cold father, a dead mom, and a mission he'd rather anyone else in the world had instead of him. He can barely hold it together fighting the Angels; even if you don't have any human villains, the constant battles would take a tremendous toll on him, and eventually, he WILL shut down and not want to fight anymore.

Worst case scenario, he'll black out in the heat of battle, EVA-01 will go berserk, and they'll have to kill it before it starts attacking the good guys.

edited 22nd May '13 4:00:32 PM by maxwellelvis

Has anyone considered non-Japanese franchises being in a SRW story?