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Needs Help: Evil Is Sexy get usage counts

I don't think we can turn this into a trope that we don't already have. So we should probably turn this into a pure index.

 27 Septimus Heap, Fri, 28th Dec '12 10:38:11 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
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So, add an index about tropes involving this and delete the examples? I am on the boat.

In uffish thought
I think there is a trope here, though. Evil Is Seductive (both sexy-seductive and persuasive-seductive) is very common, and plays off Sex Is Evil and the Interplay of Sex and Violence in some media. As Nrjxll mentioned, though, given that we have Ugly Hero, Good-Looking Villain and Beauty Is Bad, we could make Evil Is Seductive — or possibly The Lure Of Evil — purely about evil characters being persuasive, seductive in behaviour (rather than sexy in looks), and so on.
 29 Septimus Heap, Mon, 14th Jan '13 1:45:28 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
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Evil Is Seductive - should that be taken to YKTTW? I agree it's tropable.

 31 Septimus Heap, Mon, 14th Jan '13 10:43:43 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
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We'll need to properly distinguish it from The Corruption, of course.

Interesting where this is going.

I created a YKTTW a while back called Passion Is Evil that's sure to be launched soon. The basic idea is that The Dark Side is usually run by emotions (lust, anger, fear, etc.) and the good side is run by enlightenment, passivity, and transcendence.

Where you guys seem to be taking this trope appears to be related.

 33 Septimus Heap, Tue, 15th Jan '13 8:21:11 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
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It would be a subtrope or at least related to your YKTTW.

 34 Noaqiyeum, Tue, 15th Jan '13 11:29:32 PM from a thought-experiment gone horribly wrong Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
the it-thingy
Passion Is Evil sounds closely tied to Romanticism Versus Enlightenment (from Enlightenment's perspective, naturally).
"I know I raised more questions than I answered, but I hope now we are all confused on an higher level and about more important things."
So is there an actual trope we can turn this into? If so, can somebody provide a clear definition of it because a lot whats being mentioned sounds like things covered by other tropes.

I think we decided to make this into an index for those tropes like 6 months ago.

 37 Septimus Heap, Fri, 25th Jan '13 2:25:36 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
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There is already an index there. The question is whether we want to cut examples and YKTTW something out of the current page.

 38 lu 127, Wed, 27th Feb '13 4:57:43 AM from the Forest of Thorns Relationship Status: Loves me...loves me not
 39 nrjxll, Thu, 28th Feb '13 5:56:08 PM Relationship Status: Not war
Okay, let's revive this thing. I think we can all agree that the page as currently written is not really a sustainable trope, yes?

Pretty much with it's current title I don't think there's a potential definition we could come up with that's not already covered by another trope.

 41 Ironeye, Wed, 1st May '13 12:28:52 PM from SoCal Relationship Status: Falling within your bell curve
Evil Is Seductive has some promise, but I agree that this description and this name aren't useful.
I'm bad, and that's good. I will never be good, and that's not bad. There's no one I'd rather be than me.
Remove examples, rename to clarify its status as an index?

 43 Spark 9, Thu, 2nd May '13 2:59:41 AM from Castle Wulfenbach Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Gentleman Troper!
[up] Yes, that works.
Special trousers. Very heroic.
 44 Septimus Heap, Thu, 2nd May '13 5:10:21 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
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I could support a rename, but 1755 wicks are hard work to clean up.

 45 nrjxll, Thu, 2nd May '13 11:28:15 AM Relationship Status: Not war
Time-consuming, yes, but we wouldn't necessarily have to remove all of them either.

 46 Helter Skelter, Fri, 10th May '13 5:15:14 AM Relationship Status: Drift compatible
Well, I think it would basically have to be renamed. In my experience, just changing a trope's definition and even doing a really good clean-up doesn't prevent misuse or even really slow it down.

I like Septimus' suggestion best. Cut this examples, index the page, YKTTW anything that doesn't have a trope that used to belong here. It's a lot easier to cut examples flat out then it is to read each one to see if it fits.

edited 10th May '13 7:11:25 AM by helterskelter

And Evil Is Sexy definitely sounds more like a trope than an index.

 48 Septimus Heap, Fri, 7th Jun '13 6:48:57 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
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OK, what are the options here?

Remove all the examples and wicks, leave as an index and rename.

 50 kiukiuclk, Fri, 7th Jun '13 8:08:35 PM from 3.1415926535897932384626433832795028841971693 Relationship Status: My TiMER is ticking
Evil Is Fan Service maybe? Or Evil Eye Candy [lol]. It does seem to be mostly about appearances.

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