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Needs Help: Tulpa get usage counts ![]() the flies will find you
Ok, we have a typical YKTTW bypass.
First, the title: it is an existing term (see The Other Wiki), and seems to be used correctly AFAICT. However it is really obscure and should probably be switched for a more descriptive name.
Second, the description: it sounds a lot like "imaginary friend". The description begins by stating that a tulpa is "imaginary" and "a friend-like entity". "[It] differs from other imaginary friends in the fact that the character can actually see and hear it."
Then a really confusing part: "If the character must actively concentrate to keep the entity there, then it's an Imaginary Friend." So a tulpa is not fully dependable of the character's imagination? So it's not completely imaginary after all??
edited 19th May '12 5:10:02 AM by peccantis before the darkness arrives
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They haven't defined what a tulpa is very well. It's a Tibetan Buddhist concept; The Other Wiki has an article on itedited 19th May '12 11:11:00 PM by JHM ![]() Fumblin' With The Blues
edited 20th May '12 6:35:22 AM by tdgoodrich1 ![]() dressed for action
Didn't this concept show up in the short story "Tlön, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius "? With objects rather than characters: If a person on Tlön mistakenly believes that they've misplaced a possession and goes searching for it, they may find a spontaneously-created duplicate of the object.
edited 20th May '12 12:57:28 PM by MetaFour ![]() Thunder, Perfect Mind
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There's also a work inspired by the already mentioned Borges' story: one of the story arcs by Grant Morrison on Doom Patrol. 'Tis about a parallel world intersecting with ours called Orqwith, created in a similar way Tlön was.
Doom Patrol also has a character named Dorothy that is able to imagine things into reality; and the Candlemaker, an egregoreedited 20th May '12 10:20:41 PM by Nirnaeth ![]() World's Toughest Milkman
Cut and send to YKTTW. The description is too vague, the name needs work, the number of examples is minimal—all things that YKTTW is set up to handle.
"Existential Despair" is an oxymoron.
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Maybe we could create a supertrope including Clap Your Hands If You Believe, Your Mind Makes It Real and such where imagination/belief/etc. causes something to exist. The concept of Tulpa could be added there. I don't know, I'm not too good at this.
Gods Need Prayer Badly would also be a member of this trope family.
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Also Puff of Logic...
Instead, I have learned a horrible truth of existence...some stories have no meaning.
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Bump. We still need to do something about this article.
Instead, I have learned a horrible truth of existence...some stories have no meaning.
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Looks like we have unanimous agreement to cut and send back to YKTTW.
So, are we making a supertrope, or remaking Tulpa? If the latter, I took a stab at the write-up:
In Budhist tradition, a physical form, be it an object, creature, or person, can be created through discipline and visualizing the object in question. Such an object or person is called a Tulpa, and has a physical form usually indistinguishable from the real thing.
In other words, this is a though-form made palpable (or at least visible) through willpower alone.
Compare Imaginary Friend, which is not physically present or visible to other characters.
Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
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How about this?
A tulpa, in certain branches of Buddhism, is an object (usually a living creature) which is brought into existence by sheer will and concentration. Sometimes also called "thoughtform", it is essentially a thought that has taken physical form, and an existence independent of its creator. In the Western world, the most famous account of tulpa creation is the story of explorer Alexandra David-Néel, who, in her "Magic and Mystery in Tibet", briefly described how she created a tulpa in the image of a jolly monk, which then turned evil, became visible to her fellow explorers, and had to be destroyed with great difficulty.
In fiction, tulpas tend to be Always Chaotic Evil and turn on their creator. They may be created deliberately or accidentally by thinking about something strongly (especially by someone who doesn't realize their Reality Warper powers), and sometimes even by multiple people in the world beieving the existence of something. May become someone's Not So Imaginary Friend.
See also The Power of Creation.
edited 16th Aug '12 2:06:29 PM by Korodzik ![]() Ravenous Sophovore
That sounds fine to me.
Although no one has answered if we're remaking tulpa or making a Manifested From Willpower supertrope yet. Or both?
Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.
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I vote both.
Another really famous example of a Tulpa: Slenderman.
edited 18th Aug '12 10:49:08 AM by Exelixi Why should I play the Roman fool and die on mine own sword? Whiles I see lives, the gashes do better upon them. -MacBeth
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Break the conventions. Keep the commandments. - G. K. Chesterton
![]() edited 17th Oct '12 11:59:48 AM by Oreochan "Learning without thinking is labor lost. Thinking without learning is dangerous."
edited 17th Oct '12 3:03:55 PM by shoboni "It's not that simple. We are all both, good and evil, we have rage and compassion, we have love and hate...murder and forgiveness."
edited 17th Oct '12 3:07:33 PM by StarValkyrie edited 17th Oct '12 7:20:37 PM by shoboni "It's not that simple. We are all both, good and evil, we have rage and compassion, we have love and hate...murder and forgiveness."
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And anything beyond that is simply Folie A Deux?
EDIT: What, not a trope? Definitely should be.
edited 17th Oct '12 10:56:04 PM by Noaqiyeum Break the conventions. Keep the commandments. - G. K. Chesterton
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