The Place for Purging Porn and Pedo-Pandering (AKA P5 flag evaluations)

How text does it have? Maybe it's too long or it uses glyphs the parser doesn't like.

It's usually something to the effect of:

• The sexual assault depicted in the work is meant to shock rather than titilate and it's no more graphic than an episode of Law and Order SVU. Not Pedopandering.

Is there some sort of submit button?

edited 12th Apr '17 12:27:56 AM by DrPsyche

Too long for thecinput form, I believe. Perhaps "Keep; akin to L&O:SVU and not pedo" works? (There should be a button and/or checkbox)

Gotcha. I put that, clicked the done checkbox and clicked zap. Thanks mate.

I'm giving Breakfast Club a look over.

edited 18th Apr '17 10:37:58 PM by DrPsyche

Don't know if this is the place to report, but I was wondering if we could flag Sad Satan, since it contains child porn and other such illegal content.

The description seems more about the urban legend of the game than the game itself

It'd be kind of hard to review Sad Satan, considering all the urban legends and different created versions of it. The most popular version you'll find online does not have the CP.

Then it sounds like it should be handled like any other work that has a clean version - keep while removing references to the versions that do have the child porn.

Assuming it's real and not part of the legend, I think having actual child abuse content , scrubbed or no, should taint it beyond any redemption due to the association alone. Not to mention that the person who scrubbed it of the abusive content is likely committing several felonies by way of knowingly possessing and viewing it and not reporting it to law enforcement.

edited 19th Apr '17 6:38:51 AM by carbon-mantis

Isn't that just more of a creepypasta than anything else? We can't find how bad the uncut version is and knowing it was from 4chan I could see it being exaggerated, especially because it's an urban legend. I'll say cut any mention of the child porn but other than that keep it.

The alleged CP is kind of a central point to the meta-narrative of the whole thing.

Do we just obliquely say that it alleged to have extreme shock content and then some versions actually containing various kinds of it popped up?

We could put this part as "He claimed it was because the game contained Real Life extreme and illegal conent"?

Chop off the tail end of the jumpscares example...

edited 19th Apr '17 6:45:05 AM by Adannor

Weird. A game that became memetic because of its supposed extreme/illegal content, but was never actually found to contain said content — rather, the allegation led to people creating versions of the game that did in fact have illegal material. I have absolutely no idea how to handle it.

edited 19th Apr '17 7:10:37 AM by Fighteer

It would be an interesting subject on meme theory.

Yes, well. For our purposes, the fact that the game is known primarily because of the controversy surrounding its alleged content makes it the sort of thing that we should treat with lead gloves. I would probably devilhead it just on that principle alone, were I reviewing it.

It feels like a subset of Rule 34

Well as far as I see the main portion of the whole "legend" is merely talking about CP being out there and using it as a shock material rather than actual draw. Although the chans may have created versions that actually had it in there, it is still different from, say, Unteralterback

edited 19th Apr '17 7:21:58 AM by Adannor

The point is that it's impossible to talk about the game as a game without also discussing its history, and anyone coming here to look at our article would probably know said history better than the game itself. The harm to our reputation would come from the mere fact of hosting an article about it, even if the content is completely vanilla.

I mean, you could write an article about Urotsukidouji without mentioning the graphic sexual violence, but it wouldn't be much of an article.

edited 19th Apr '17 7:27:02 AM by Fighteer

Isn't that sort of thing exactly what Memetic Mutation is intended to cover? If there's a clean version, give that the page, mention the Memetic Mutation that the other version is better known, even if it was only Defictionalized later, and say that we aren't going to cover the CP version.

That sounds fair (although I'll admit I had heard literally nothing about it till now). Just adding another voice to the discussion based on what I've just read here.

What about doing what we did to A Serbian Film where we just cut and locked the page?

Because common practice nowadays is that a work page must have tropes.

Speaking of ASF, by that yardstick it either needs to be upgraded to "clean policy fun units out and lock to keep it clean" ala 50 Shades or zorched entirely as an unsalvageable stub. Hopefully that doesn't take donkey's years (too late, methinks) as these things are wont to do.

edited 20th Apr '17 10:59:54 AM by Theatre_Maven_3695

ASF is on the list at 2 angels.

Better than I thought lol. Personally, I'd hate to see a 50 Shades esque no trust policy, but they both derive their notoriety (not all in ASF's case, but that may be ignorance meets optimism...I hope not!) from sexual content. I always assumed ASF is much like Saw/Hostel/whatever but much more...unsettling. Or is it closer to NC-17 rated Law & Order: SVU in moral intent, as some have implied)? I honestly don't know here.

edited 22nd Apr '17 6:07:05 AM by Theatre_Maven_3695

ASF has a rape scene of a baby I believe so it's a lot worse than any of those other shows. I'm pretty sure one of the only movies that is so adult in comparison is Cannibal Holocaust and that shouldn't get cut because it is an important piece of cinema.

Also this is the IMDB parents guide which is the best way to understand how bad the film is without watching the movie, which I wouldn't recommend. Here.

edited 22nd Apr '17 9:26:04 AM by ReynTime250

It feels like whoever wrote the Sad Satan article bought into the idea that the later, full-on repugnant version was the original, but other sources suggest the reverse. Still, this is some unbelievably uncomfortable territory.