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Rape Tropes cleanup:

Per word of mod, we need to go through the renamed/tropes with okay names on the Rape Tropes index and excise any perversity/creepiness.

The sandbox page is at Sandbox.Rape Tropes. I suggest writing next to each cleaned trope "cleaned" and then marking each page at the top with "cleaned per Special Efforts thread due to No Lewdness rules" or something like that.
Edit: never mind.

edited 6th Apr '12 4:48:12 PM by Arha

Here is the guideline: ta-da

And copy-and-pasted relevant bit:
I would interpret this as text which describes a sex act or an image that depicts a sex act or nudity. And, I'd say, images that are close to depicting a sex act
And anything that can be taken as glorifying or praising rape and other sexual horrors is right out.

Relevant.

edited 6th Apr '12 5:38:19 PM by MorganWick

Sex Slave could use a cleanup.

edited 6th Apr '12 8:15:18 PM by Jicragg

[up]Noted. I'm just going slowly down the list at the moment.

What do people think of Double Standard: Rape, Male on Male? The examples should be cleaned, but I'm not sure about the description.
It doesn't need the "subtrope" of Rape as Comedy anymore really. It's opened itself up to being the whole double standard.

Personally I think the explanation is pretty good except in the last paragraph.

Prison Rape the only instance where male rape is often portrayed as utterly horrible and tragic and All Women are Doms, All Men are Subs, which, despite the name also allows for man-on-man BDSM because its just so funny.
It's not like the description just listed examples where it was played for drama and it can still be played for comedy. And the "because its just so funny" is pointless and is poorly written. What does the Dom/sub bit have to do with rape anyway?!

edited 6th Apr '12 8:43:42 PM by Jicragg

[up]I really don't know. Fixed the rest.

I'm only part way through Black Comedy Rape and O_O
[up]Oh dear god.

So I took a look at All Women Are Doms All Men Are Subs and I believe I found the problem.

This seems to be akin to rape tropes as BDSM is often treated as a form of rape.
Excuse me... I want to scream so much right now. That's so fucking stupid. That's not what BDSM is. At all.

Men might be in a dominant role, but only if they are dominating another man because All Men Are Perverts and Double Standard Rape: Male on Male.
Now that doesn't even make sense!

Does BDSM really have this bad a rep? They're good people, dammit.

edited 6th Apr '12 8:55:23 PM by Jicragg

In fiction it's Bondage Is Bad , this isn't about IRL BDSM.

[up]Well, that page needs a cleanup as well and I won't do it. I'll just get angry at the world.

The way it's written though... seems so cruel...

Finished Bastard Girlfriend and Double Standard: Rape, Male on Male. About to finish up Black Comedy Rape. Gods, that was terrible. I'm done for the night guys.
Good cleanup on the second. Lots of those weren't examples anyway. I only put up one you removed but I rewrote it so it explained the trope better.

 14 Oreochan, Fri, 6th Apr '12 10:06:50 PM from Pennsylvania
I'm sorry if I'm over reacting but Chaotic Dreams has created, launched and contributed to some rape and fetish related pages that are questionable and dubiously valid in YKTTW like this one and Symbolic Rape (which seems to be just a form of Freud Was Right). Can a mod warn him/her about this issue? Their YKTTWs looked okay at first, but more and more are starting to revolve around rape causing a noticeable pattern.

Anyway, Black Comedy Rape needs a trip to the TRS and it's picture is a duplicate or used to be of Double Standard: Rape, Male on Male.

edited 7th Apr '12 4:37:58 AM by Oreochan

"Learning without thinking is labor lost. Thinking without learning is dangerous."
Yeah, looks like a person with a fixation. Imma put a suspend on their editing privileges. Nicely spotted.

edited 6th Apr '12 10:44:35 PM by FastEddie

Goal: Clear, Concise and Witty
I thought Black Comedy Rape is usually, but not always, related to the latter trope? It probably does need TRS though.

[up]Have you hollered?

Edit: Eddie is a fast one.

Good night world. I have had a terrible day.

edited 6th Apr '12 10:45:34 PM by Autumncomet

 17 Ghilz, Fri, 6th Apr '12 10:54:43 PM from The Moon. Or Canada. Relationship Status: Drift compatible
Fight It Out!
Gave two sweeps on Rape Stockholm Syndrome but the page is huge so I might've missed some.
 18 Oreochan, Sat, 7th Apr '12 12:24:32 AM from Pennsylvania
[up][up] I meant the image.

I got Sex Slave and Sexual Extortion wicks. Its Not Rape If You Enjoyed It is also mine. But I'm logging out now for at least a few hours or days. Homework, family issues and this hit me at the worst possible moment.

I will also discard most or all of CD's YKTT Ws and take few of the valid ones under my wing and sanitize them since they are definitely not solely about rape.

edited 7th Apr '12 3:52:53 AM by Oreochan

"Learning without thinking is labor lost. Thinking without learning is dangerous."
I want Kat's glasses!
The Double Standard Rape rename sounds like a big Viewers Are Morons practice to me, but sadly, the advertisers proved it to be true. sad
They Called Me Mad!! I decided to show them all; but when I looked on my works, oh mighty, I despaired: for it made me realize they were right.
^I was never a fan of the "Rape is Okay" family, but that's because they were horribly uncreative names*, especially the original one which no one liked even at the time (let me tell you about the guy who came up with it sometime). "Double Standard Rape", though, is just Artistic License 2: Electric Boogaloo. If they went properly through TRS instead of being rush-renamed as a result of the current situation, their titles, I have to believe, would be much better.

And with that, after spending too long today on this whole mess, I'm going to bed. Good night.

 21 lu 127, Sat, 7th Apr '12 1:43:03 AM from the Capital of Light Relationship Status: Loves me...loves me not
Yeah, I had been keeping an eye on Chaotic Dreams myself.

Is it too much if we cut Symbolic Rape? It's really just a form of Freud Was Right and it's new, so we wouldn't be losing much wiki-side.
何も恐れる事わ無い
 22 Septimus Heap, Sat, 7th Apr '12 2:02:46 AM from Zurich, Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
A Wizard boy
[up]I think we can safely redirect it to Freud Was Right.

 23 Oreochan, Sat, 7th Apr '12 2:22:55 AM from Pennsylvania
I concur. The page has three inbounds already and being launched barely a week ago...

Also, he has been on this site for at least three or four years judging by YKTTW history. He may need the bounce treatment...

But we should let the mods handle this to prevent derailing.

edited 7th Apr '12 3:15:57 AM by Oreochan

"Learning without thinking is labor lost. Thinking without learning is dangerous."
 24 lu 127, Sat, 7th Apr '12 2:25:05 AM from the Capital of Light Relationship Status: Loves me...loves me not
I seriously hope the guy isn't pimping the stuff he makes anywhere....

Huh. Apparently they are from an anime roleplay forum...

edited 7th Apr '12 2:27:23 AM by lu127

何も恐れる事わ無い
 25 ccoa, Sat, 7th Apr '12 4:37:27 AM from the Sleeping Giant
Ravenous Sophovore
Eddie already suspended him, as he said upthread.

edited 7th Apr '12 4:51:50 AM by ccoa

Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.

Alternative Titles: Rape As Redemption
5th Jul '12 2:10:25 AM
Vote up names you like, vote down names you don't. Whether or not the name will actually be changed is determined with a different kind of Crowner (the Single Proposition crowner). This one just collects and ranks alternative names.
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