Created Sandbox.Regal Princess.
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Yes, those are all good catches. Let's include them.
I'm not sure about Manipulative Bastard, though. Princesses are usually presented as heroic but not as manipulative.
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It doesn't bug me
This trope subverts the Princess Classic, where the royal in question is characterized by her saintly virtues rather than her actions. Although historically this applied to both princes and princesses, in fiction, this trope is Always Female, as male royals are typically expected to act, while females...not so much.
A Politicaly Savvy Princess may also be a Rebellious Princess, though she will usually go about it more subtly. A subtrope of Royals Who Actually Do Something. See also Silk Hiding Steel.
Tried to tweak it a bit.
Just so I can claim I contributed
edited 20th Mar '12 1:04:21 PM by Godnat
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It doesn't bug me
So does that go in the sandbox?
Yeah, you're probably right about Manipulative Bastard. Maybe The Chessmaster was the trope I was looking for, if only a Downplayed version.
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Yeah, it is The Chessmaster after all.
edited 20th Mar '12 12:43:36 PM by Godnat
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I think The Chessmaster is appropriate for those who are best at their jobs.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick I have incorporated some of that writeup. I liked it.
What does it mean that it doesn't apply to princes? Isn't that really saying that Regal Prince/Princess is simply a very common trope when applied to princes? ... it certainly doesn't apply to Prince Adam in He-Man.
Just a quick on real life information: I didn't sandbox all I had to say into the description, intentionally. I feel it's important when a trope intersects with the real world to have that background in mind, even if the trope is purely written with fiction in mind. This is important to avert Critical Research Failure or, worse, Unfortunate Implications. In this case, especially, though, there could very well be Truth in Television examples, not to mention biopics and dramatizations of actual royalty. It really sucks when you have to try to cram in extra description in the examples, instead of providing a basic useful statement up in the description that frames such examples.
edited 20th Mar '12 4:19:23 PM by pawsplay
It doesn't bug me
Glad to be of help.
Sandbox has been updated for clarification.
Do you think it's ready to run through YKTTW for examples?
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I think so. Want to salvage what examples we can from the current page?
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. DickI think the only examples that work are The Royal Diaries, Star Wars and Tales Of The Abyss. Unfortunately, I can only write an example on the third.
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YKTTW it?
I can think of
- Ashe / Final Fantasy XII
- Princess of Galette Leonmichelle Galette des Roix of Dog Days who doubles as an Bad Ass Princess and General of her army with a harsh, militaristic international policy (And the Final Boss of their "war")
edited 21st Mar '12 3:24:40 PM by Raso
Sparkling and glittering! Jan-Ken-Pon!YKTTW is up.
I can write Tales Of The Abyss, but I'll need someone to suggest the rest there.
There seems to be some support for Politically Proactive Princess as the name. Do you think it's good?
"If you aren't him, then you apparently got your brain from the same discount retailer, so..." - Fighteer
Why the "Pro" bit?
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanAlliteration.
I think that the Proactive bit gives the wrong idea about the trope and makes it longer while obscuring the meaning. Thus it violates both concise and clear, and alliteration is hardly witty so there's no gain there.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. DickHmmm, I don't see how proactive obscures the meaning, but I'd rather be safe than sorry, so I won't include it.
I used Raso's suggestion (Politically Savvy Princess) as the working title, so I'd be fine sticking with it.
"If you aren't him, then you apparently got your brain from the same discount retailer, so..." - Fighteer
Because being politically proactive is normally a euphemism for starting wars.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. DickHuh, really? The More You Know.
"If you aren't him, then you apparently got your brain from the same discount retailer, so..." - Fighteer
I like what I'm seeing here: a princess using her rank and personality to achieve results. Though I like the current title I thought of a different one when reading the description: "Queen To Be". A princess that thinks of herself not as a princess but someone that will be queen someday. She's practicing that role before she gets the title. I'd suggest "Wannabe Queen" That was listed in the Tales Of Abyss example but its kinda negative.
That's okay, but I prefer the current title because it's more descriptive. We already had some attempted shoehorning in YKTTW, and I'd rather be safe than sorry later. I can leave that as a redirect though.
Speaking of which...the YKTTW is kinda stale. Already bumped it and ask for help in the YKTTW thread. 
edited 3rd Apr '12 7:09:35 AM by lu127
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Where does the original "princess who acts like a queen" concept of Regal Princess (as per the YKTTW archive history) stand with respect to this trope?
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I'm not familiar with either of those, but I did add a different example.
Also isn't this trope related to Silk Hiding Steel, Guile Hero and Manipulative Bastard?
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