Well, it's not used a whole lot, and it's a few years old. It feels like it should be more prevalent.
I'd say the Yellow Devil boss battles are recurring over the series, as it is the same boss, more or less. Likewise, Dracula and Death are the very same people. And the Koopalings.
The Internet misuses, abuses, and overuses everything.I'm not convinced this is a trope. "A game contains a boss that happens to resemble a boss in an earlier game".
If intentional, that is either a Recurring Boss or a Shout-Out. If not intentional, that is coincidence. In neither case do we need this page.
Rhetorical, eh? ... Eight!If intentional, that is either a Recurring Boss or a Shout Out.
Phantom Ganon and Ganondorf from Ocarina Of Time. 2 different guys, so not a Recurring Boss, and I don't see how you can make a Shout-Out to something that happened earlier in the same game. Oh, wait, they need to be in separate games? Why is that a requirement?
edited 23rd Feb '12 12:18:02 PM by abk0100
I don't see why they can't be a recurring boss if they're two different guys. Super Mario World has several bosses that are each other's siblings, but are mostly identical in terms of gameplay - that strikes me as recurring even if you do add a Palette Swap.
Rhetorical, eh? ... Eight!This is at least as tropable as Expy, except it's copying gameplay tropes rather than characterization tropes.
Within the same game or in a different game by the same developers, it's extremely unlikely that a boss that is suspiciously similar to a previous boss is a coincidence. They're re-using a formula they liked, they're reusing a formula players liked, they're too lazy to come up with something entirely new, or all three.
The way Recurring Boss is currently defined, it doesn't fit if they're different characters.
The Kingdom Hearts example, for instance, is neither a Recurring Boss (even if you count palette swaps) nor a Shout-Out.
edited 23rd Feb '12 12:33:53 PM by ccoa
Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.Okay, so we have "boss who is the same guy as an earlier boss" and "boss who uses the same attack patterns as an earlier boss", which can be two different tropes that sometimes overlap. That could work.
Can't say I like this name, though. It sounds like it's "Recurring Boss plus one additional trait" but it's not.
Rhetorical, eh? ... Eight!Expy isn't strictly characterization, just similarity. They can look completely the same and act completely different(or vise versa). This is really just boss expy.
Modified Ura-nage, Torture Rack^ But if their characterizations don't match (to some degree), it violates the definition of an Expy. Take the quoted Mega Man example....
edited 24th Feb '12 7:54:46 AM by Stratadrake
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edited 24th Feb '12 12:18:19 AM by rodneyAnonymous
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So it should be something like Boss Gameplay Expy?
The Internet misuses, abuses, and overuses everything.^ That could work, but it's a little bit unwieldy.
Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.It's only four four-letter words...
The Internet misuses, abuses, and overuses everything.I meant it doesn't roll off the tongue well.
Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.Clocked. Let's see some activity in here.
Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.I can support expanding the definition to eliminate the "series wide" requirement (in other words, legalizing examples that are from single games), but we do at least need a cleanup effort. Let me go back and expand upon my Wick Check....
Not going to complain about these
—> index/supertrope- Fraxy: "Several bosses, both presupplied and user made tend to be flying Laser Blades."
- Characters.House Of The Dead: "See also Strength and Death for a similar boss fight."
- Raiden: "The first boss battle of the first three games pits you against a duo of ground enemies (gun platforms in the first, spider tanks in II and giant tanks in III) with the weaker one appearing slightly before the other."
- Robo Warrior: "'Three of the bosses have the exact same strategy''- they float around the place, throw globs around, and those globs turn into Mooks should they hit the floor."
- Solomons Keep: "The Infernal, The Unincarnate, The Unsummonable, and The Unholy. You fight one of them right before Solomon Dark. They all use eye beams and fire walls, but a new attack is added for each proceeding difficulty."
Not sure about these
- VideoGame.Kirby: "Half of the bosses in Amazing Mirror are blatantly Alternate Universe counterparts to previous bosses. King Golem is Whispy Woods, Dark Meta Knight is obvious, and the final boss starts off as an expy of Nightmare before ending up as an expy of Zero."
- Major Stryker: "There are three such templates, each used once in each episode, though with differences. For instance, each episode has a boss which splits into two smaller copies of itself for its second phase."
- Rune Factory 3: "While most of the bonus bosses recycled from earlier games still have all their signature moves, they're a lot tougher this time around."
- Thunder Cross: "Eggeroid, which appears as the first boss in both games. In the first game, you could attack its weak point directly, in the second, you had to attack its tail first."
- Touhou Labyrinth: "Alice and Maribel will have 3 summons that is a physical attacker, a magical attacker, and a supporter."
Fixing
—> removed Zero Context Example- Karoshi: "The final boss for the first two games was your own head, it being a clone or the actual thing varying."
- Lets Go Jungle: "Both the giant tarantula and the octopus from the sequel. They act as the first boss, and come back in the third stage where they are finally defeated. Plus, both of them have eight legs!"
- Characters.Mega Man: "Guts Man's image is a blatant inspiration for large, bulky robot masters such as Stoneman."
- One to Million to One: "Some games also give [Teleport Spam] to the Phantom Bat. Similarly, Super Castlevania IV gives this ability to the mummy boss, Akmodan II, who teleports as a stream of loose bandages."
- New Super Mario Bros Wii: "All of the tower bosses, as well as the ones in six of the castles, attack with wands."
I'd support renaming it to Gameplay Expy.
Blind Final Fantasy 6 Let's PlayBump. So are we doing anything here, or do we close this as it is well past clock expiry?
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanSpark, please create the crowner before hollering for one to be attached. Thank you.
Waiting on a TRS slot? Finishing off one of these cleaning efforts will usually open one up.What sort of crowner was asked for?
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman"Should Bonus Boss cameos from previous games even count?"
I would think that would be its own trope I can think of many Reoccuring Bonus Boss es from RP Gs some become a company staple.
Sparkling and glittering! Jan-Ken-Pon!Page action. I can't find a button to create the crowner though, I thought only mods could do that?
Rhetorical, eh? ... Eight!Instructions are here if you scroll down a bit.
Sparkling and glittering! Jan-Ken-Pon!Mods can hook blank crowners if requested, but other people can make them too: How Crowners Work has the guide.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Crown Description:
The options are not exclusive.
Where's the prefix for "underused" ?
Anyway, let us count the issues with this trope:
(This has no bearing on the actual boss battles. The shield- and Yellow Devil boss battles should have been noted instead, but curiously, they're not.)
(This also has no bearing on their actual battles.)
(Single game, not a series)
(Single game, not a series.)
edited 23rd Feb '12 11:11:58 AM by Stratadrake
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