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This thread is for general discussion of page quotes, whether to change, move or remove them.

Unused quotes should be put on a Quotes Wiki page (just replace the namespace in the URL of the wiki page you are making a quotes page for with Quotes/) or, if they don't have an article, on Quotes Looking for an Article.

Image captions are discussed elsewhere and have their own thread in the Image Pickin' forum.

Edited by Tabs on Jul 15th 2023 at 2:40:54 AM

DustSnitch Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#4351: Oct 8th 2016 at 9:45:11 PM

The Pot Holes have to go, it's against policy to include links not in the original quote. In terms of the quote itself, I'm not sure it includes the philosophy requirement of the trope.

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#4352: Oct 10th 2016 at 9:08:09 PM

When wicks are removed, it looked more like a garbled mess than a philosophy, so nixed the whole thing. Here's what it would look like minus wicks:

"Abandon all hope, ye who enter here. $U(x){psi(x,t)} = i{h-bar}d{psi(x,t)}/dt ({h-bar}^2)/2m{del}^2 {psi (x,t)}$. To be or not to be, that is the question. Unless ye be converted and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the Kingdom of Heaven. Moby Dick. Now he's a super star, slamming on his guitar, does your pretty face see what he's worth, he was a skater boy she said see you later boy, he wasn't good enough for her. ... E=mc^2. S=Klogt. Temporal and spatial dimensions are moving relative to one another. Everything should be made simple as possible, but not moreso and Eminem!"
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#4353: Oct 13th 2016 at 10:28:55 PM

The quote on Die or Fly has nothing to do with the trope itself (since last I checked, MythBusters does not feature actual superpowers). Trope namer or not, it's not illustrative.

My suggestion would be the following quote from El Goonish Shive.

"With each spell cast, a chance for new power. Spells that reflect who you are...what motivates you...and the sacrifices you have made. You are willing to die for her. If you weren't...you would never have earned this spell." -Pandora

edited 13th Oct '16 10:39:59 PM by TotemicHero

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Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#4354: Oct 20th 2016 at 3:46:19 PM

[up] I like it. Should the last line be included? "Try not to die too quickly."

I Am the Noun is not only just repeating the trope name, it's repeating the trope image. Nearly any alternative would work, but I think even no quote would be better.

edited 20th Oct '16 3:46:57 PM by Discar

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#4355: Oct 20th 2016 at 4:21:05 PM

On Die or Fly: I'm kind of torn on that, honestly, but it might be better for completeness.

On I Am the Noun: I think the real problem is just a straight variation of the quote name ("I am X!") without surrounding context is...well, weak. A quote featuring the conversation that led to the I Am the Noun statement would be a huge improvement.

With that in mind, I'd say fall back on everyone's favorite bat. (Or more specifically, his 90s cartoon version)

Thomas Wayne (hallucination): You are a disgrace!
Batman: No...no! You are not my father. I am not a disgrace! I am vengeance, I am the night! I am Batman!

edited 20th Oct '16 4:22:48 PM by TotemicHero

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#4356: Oct 20th 2016 at 8:30:14 PM

[tup][tup]

Of course, I'm partial to all things Batman. tongue

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#4357: Oct 21st 2016 at 2:05:34 PM

Severely Specialized Store had a decent quote, but the image is from the same work and is without a caption. Any objections to converting it into a caption?

Not sure on a replacement.

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#4358: Oct 21st 2016 at 5:18:01 PM

There's only one in the Quotes page, but it's a goody. I think that should work fine if the old one is converted to a caption.

maxwellsilver Since: Sep, 2011
#4359: Oct 22nd 2016 at 6:36:22 PM

That will work great.

The image will need to be linked to the work, though.

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#4360: Oct 23rd 2016 at 8:04:07 AM

Image was already linked to the proper work.

Anyways, deed is done. Is the new quote a bit long?

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#4361: Oct 23rd 2016 at 8:06:41 AM

Yeah, it's a little overly long, I'd say. Not sure how it could be trimmed,

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#4362: Oct 23rd 2016 at 8:52:05 AM

I cut out the first two lines, they're not strictly necessary to get the point of the quote. It could probably be trimmed some more if we're willing to abuse ellipses, but this is at least a little better.

GhostHouse Since: Sep, 2016
#4363: Oct 23rd 2016 at 11:53:21 AM

Page quote for the Scrappy Index Is Non-Indicative. It doesn't show the trope in action, it doesn't talk about the trope, and it relies entirely too much on the audience's familiarity with a meme.

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#4368: Oct 23rd 2016 at 2:47:37 PM

I was about to add a quote to Absolute Xenophobe to mirror the one I just added to The Xenophile, but when I went to edit the page I noticed there was a notice that seemed to say no one should add anything without running it by y'all first:

The quote in question I was thinking of adding:

"The stakes could not be higher as we reach into the vast uncharted expanses of the galaxy, for we are gambling with the very survival of our species! Never trust the alien; its false smile hides an unknowable mind..."
Stellaris, Xenophobe Ethos blurb

Any objections, suggestions, other feedback?

EDIT: On further reflection, the Fanatic Xenophobe ethos blurb probably has a little more "punch":

"Any alien influence must be ruthlessly quashed. Only by staying pure, and true to ourselves and the planet that gave us life can we guard against insidious Xeno plots. Even mastery over the Alien might not be enough to guarantee our own safety..."
Stellaris, Fanatic Xenophobe Ethos blurb

edited 23rd Oct '16 2:54:23 PM by Specialist290

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#4369: Oct 23rd 2016 at 3:59:46 PM

The Absolute Xenophobe editor note refers to the image caption, not the page quote (or lack thereof). It's not a bad thing running your ideas by this thread, but it's not absolutely required.

With that said...what exactly are these Xenophile Ethos and Xenophobe Ethos things? Are they a work? A document within a work? I'm leery of them without the sources of the quotes being clear.

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Candi Sorcerer in training from Closer to rimward than hubward Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
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#4370: Oct 23rd 2016 at 7:08:44 PM

Apparentlyy paths you can take in the Stellaris video game. Both quotes are on the work page.

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#4371: Oct 23rd 2016 at 8:00:08 PM

Okay, but the quote source is written backwards. It should be "Character name/quote source, work name", instead of the way you have it.

I already corrected the quote on The Xenophile.Try to keep this in mind for the future.

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#4372: Oct 24th 2016 at 1:27:01 PM

I don't see how the quote on Brought Down to Badass has anything to do with the trope. I'm sure it makes sense in context, but without context it doesn't work. How's this for a replacement?

Amaya: So without your suit, you're useless.
Ray: And without your amulet, you're—
Amaya: A fifth-degree black belt.
Ray: ...oh.

Specialist290 Since: Jan, 2001
#4373: Oct 24th 2016 at 6:46:36 PM

[up][up] I'll keep note of that. I thought I was doing it right, but apparently the page I was using as my "template" had it backwards, too.

And Candi is essentially correct; in addition to a small selection of predefined species that may appear, the game randomly generates empires whose behavior is defined by a combination of their government's ethos and the primary species's traits.

edited 24th Oct '16 6:46:50 PM by Specialist290

johnnye Since: Jan, 2001
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#4375: Nov 2nd 2016 at 5:06:52 PM

The main for the Scrappy-Page, I believe, needs some attention. Because, it doesn't explain the trope, it only tells us that the speaker hates Scrappy. Yes, he is the trope namer, but that still doesn't say much IMO. I guarantee that if you looked hard enough, you could find any single random person making a similar rant about any variety of characters, but does that make them all Scrappies? No.

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