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Kory: i will need to do some more testing to see if the 500KB should be lowered even more but either way everyone can relax because the database will not crash or implode in anyway due to page size so splitting pages isn't a huge priority and is just more of a suggestion. For pages that actually load slow, splitting the pages will help slower internet users navigate these pages better.

     Eddie's old post 
Looks like we have a big page lock coming. Big in the sense of many pages and big in the sense that the pages to be locked are too big.

It looks like pages over 500,000 characters (html formatted, that is) are crashing the server when someone tries to edit them. programmer's whine 

They need to be fixed, anyway. Way too big for one page. They need to be broken up into subpages of a reasonable size.

I'm trying to get better about communicating before big changes, so we'll let this one run for a while before taking the action. The server crashes do come under the heading of 'urgent', though.

another programmer's thing 

See this page: Overly Long Pages

Explanation of what triggers the too-long page warning

Edited by kory on Dec 18th 2023 at 2:36:21 AM

TylerL320 Since: Jul, 2011
#1401: Mar 14th 2016 at 7:58:52 AM

Cleaning up tons of natter and other problems with Persona 4: The Investigation Team, will see if it needs a split after I'm done with it.

How do I view how many HTML characters a page has?

edited 14th Mar '16 8:01:50 AM by TylerL320

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#1402: Mar 14th 2016 at 8:54:09 AM

I don't know of any method.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Prfnoff Since: Jan, 2001
#1403: Mar 14th 2016 at 10:47:46 AM

Looks like someone got halfway through splitting And I Must Scream into subpages. I split off a few more because the page really was too long; someone else should finish this.

Lymantria Tyrannoraptoran Reptiliomorph from Toronto Since: Apr, 2015 Relationship Status: Historians will say we were good friends.
Tyrannoraptoran Reptiliomorph
#1404: Mar 16th 2016 at 7:49:00 PM

[up][up] Copy the source from either the edit page or the source page and paste it into a character counter.

Join the Five-Man Band cleanup project!
TheOneWhoTropes Dread Sorcerer of Auchtermuchty from Newton-le-willows, quaint town Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
Dread Sorcerer of Auchtermuchty
#1405: Apr 23rd 2016 at 11:53:32 AM

Surprisingly-Similar Stories is too long. I don't think I have enough time over the next few days to fix it.

edited 23rd Apr '16 11:53:52 AM by TheOneWhoTropes

Keeper of The Celestial Flame
TheOneWhoTropes Dread Sorcerer of Auchtermuchty from Newton-le-willows, quaint town Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
Dread Sorcerer of Auchtermuchty
#1406: May 2nd 2016 at 3:45:46 PM

Persona 4: Arena is too long. Since I'm busy in the TRS right now, posting it here if anyone has time to do it. Haven't played the game, don't know who the main groups are.

Keeper of The Celestial Flame
lakingsif Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
#1407: May 22nd 2016 at 7:44:45 PM

the Actors index is now too long; simple split?

OH MY GOD; MY PARENTS ARE GARDENIIIIINNNNGGGGG!!!!!
EarlOfSandvich Since: Jun, 2011
#1408: May 24th 2016 at 1:18:42 AM

Since the number doesn't appear in the lower corner as it used to, is there a way to calculate how big it is (character counts don't really help that much in this regard)?

I now go by Graf von Tirol.
rmctagg09 The Wanderer from Brooklyn, NY (USA) (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
The Wanderer
#1409: Jul 19th 2016 at 9:59:37 PM

[up][up][up] Split that into subpages.

edited 25th Jul '16 9:42:47 PM by rmctagg09

Eating a Vanilluxe will give you frostbite.
rmctagg09 The Wanderer from Brooklyn, NY (USA) (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
The Wanderer
#1410: Jul 25th 2016 at 9:43:10 PM

Split Persona 3 into subpages.

Eating a Vanilluxe will give you frostbite.
lakingsif Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
#1411: Jul 31st 2016 at 6:49:19 AM

~Earl of Sandvich, if you want to check a page I can look at it for you

edited 31st Jul '16 6:49:58 AM by lakingsif

OH MY GOD; MY PARENTS ARE GARDENIIIIINNNNGGGGG!!!!!
chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
#1412: Aug 15th 2016 at 6:27:48 PM

I split the WMG.Atop The Fourth Wall into three pages, with the main page keeping the General & Mirror Universe entries.

edited 15th Aug '16 6:33:04 PM by chasemaddigan

lakingsif Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
#1413: Sep 19th 2016 at 6:54:35 AM

the NamesTheSame.Real Life page needs to split in three, I think, should it be #-F, G-M, then N-Z?

OH MY GOD; MY PARENTS ARE GARDENIIIIINNNNGGGGG!!!!!
tsstevens Reading tropes such as You Know What You Did from Reading tropes such as Righting Great Wrongs Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: She's holding a very large knife
Reading tropes such as You Know What You Did
#1414: Sep 19th 2016 at 2:41:06 PM

Here's one for you.

I'm not sure how to go about splitting myself...by character or first game for example? I'm kind of hesitant to work on it.

Currently reading up My Rule Fu Is Stronger than Yours
lakingsif Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
#1415: Sep 19th 2016 at 2:49:33 PM

[up]First game is the way to go, unless some of the characters folders are big enough to warrant their own page.

OH MY GOD; MY PARENTS ARE GARDENIIIIINNNNGGGGG!!!!!
Tallens GDI Commander from Deep in the Heart of... Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.
GDI Commander
#1416: Sep 29th 2016 at 12:06:57 AM

Has there been any talk at all on the Diablo character page?

I think the best way to handle this one would be to create a page for denizens of the High Heavens, the Burning Hells and Sanctuary (though the player characters might need their own subpage as well).

edited 29th Sep '16 12:07:11 AM by Tallens

FELH2 TV Tropes' very wikibot Since: May, 2012
TV Tropes' very wikibot
#1417: Oct 31st 2016 at 11:38:28 AM

Just saw this page under Recent Changes: Characters.Bojack Horseman The Horse Himself Tropes A To K

Two pages for a single character? Doesn't that go a bit far? The page is ~ 64kB big, this shouldn't be a problem for the software.

Get rid of the walled garden
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#1418: Nov 20th 2016 at 5:01:39 AM

Characters.Skylanders is throwing up a "too large" warning.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
DustSnitch Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#1419: Dec 29th 2016 at 12:21:39 PM

Steven Universe is displaying the "too large" warning now.

Theatre_Maven_3695 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#1420: Dec 29th 2016 at 2:35:45 PM

[up] I see two possibilities there. One is to split the pages between Fridge Brilliance and Fridge Horror, and the other to split them into Seasons 1&2 and 3&4. Which one would work better? Or is there another idea I'm not seeing?

edited 29th Dec '16 2:37:40 PM by Theatre_Maven_3695

lakingsif Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
#1421: Dec 29th 2016 at 3:16:40 PM

[up] & [up][up], I'd go with Fridge Logic, Fridge Brilliance, and Fridge Horror pages.

edited 29th Dec '16 3:17:04 PM by lakingsif

OH MY GOD; MY PARENTS ARE GARDENIIIIINNNNGGGGG!!!!!
Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#1422: Dec 29th 2016 at 7:27:16 PM

Just tossed Literature.Whateley Universe into Microsoft Word and it's reporting 183,618 characters (including spaces)...

Too soon to bring it up?

Disambig Needed: Help with those issues! tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13324299140A37493800&page=24#comment-576
lakingsif Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: Wanna dance with somebody
#1423: Dec 30th 2016 at 7:21:25 AM

[up]the wiki's throwing it up as 345496, so it's probably a good idea to split the tropes off

edited 30th Dec '16 7:22:25 AM by lakingsif

OH MY GOD; MY PARENTS ARE GARDENIIIIINNNNGGGGG!!!!!
DustSnitch Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#1424: Dec 30th 2016 at 10:55:23 AM

[up][up] Considering it has a Characters page, cutting those character bios from the page may also be worth considering.

Schol-R-LEA Rev. First Speaker from Texlahoma Asteroid Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: RelationshipOutOfBoundsException: 1
Rev. First Speaker
#1425: Jan 1st 2017 at 11:44:17 AM

I have to agree with Dust Snitch about the character discussion on the Whateley Universe main page; while there ought to be something about the Team Kimba characters there, what is there now is too long, and the rest of the character descriptions should just be in the Character pages.

As for breaking the tropes listings up, that will probably need to be done, too, but I suggest seeing how things look after removing or relocating the character material first.

Perhaps we could break out just some of the related tropes by category - sex and gender tropes, superhero tropes, deconstruction/parody tropes - and leave most of the individual tropes in place, rather than doing a whole alphabetized breakdown.

edited 1st Jan '17 11:49:03 AM by Schol-R-LEA


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