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Kory: i will need to do some more testing to see if the 500KB should be lowered even more but either way everyone can relax because the database will not crash or implode in anyway due to page size so splitting pages isn't a huge priority and is just more of a suggestion. For pages that actually load slow, splitting the pages will help slower internet users navigate these pages better.

     Eddie's old post 
Looks like we have a big page lock coming. Big in the sense of many pages and big in the sense that the pages to be locked are too big.

It looks like pages over 500,000 characters (html formatted, that is) are crashing the server when someone tries to edit them. programmer's whine 

They need to be fixed, anyway. Way too big for one page. They need to be broken up into subpages of a reasonable size.

I'm trying to get better about communicating before big changes, so we'll let this one run for a while before taking the action. The server crashes do come under the heading of 'urgent', though.

another programmer's thing 

See this page: Overly Long Pages

Explanation of what triggers the too-long page warning

Edited by kory on Dec 18th 2023 at 2:36:21 AM

Wayward1122 Since: Apr, 2014
#1226: Apr 21st 2014 at 9:51:46 AM

Hello. Can you please help with correcting the subpages and cutlisting the improper ones? Here are these that are needed to be moved to the proper names.

  • TropeName/Anime —> TropeName/AnimeAndManga
  • TropeName/AnimatedFilm —> TropeName/AnimatedFilms
  • TropeName/ComicBook —> TropeName/ComicBooks
  • TropeName/FilmAnimated —> TropeName/AnimatedFilms
  • TropeName/FilmLiveAction —> TropeName/Film
  • TropeName/LiveActionFilm —> TropeName/Film
  • TropeName/{{Live-ActionTV}} —> TropeName/LiveActionTV
  • TropeName/TabletopGame —> TropeName/TabletopGames
  • TropeName/{{Theatre}} —> TropeName/{{Theater}}
  • TropeName/VideoGame —> TropeName/VideoGames
  • Theatre/WorkName —> Theater/WorkName

Camilla What do you mean I'm not declared insane? Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Californicating
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#1227: Apr 21st 2014 at 12:19:04 PM

I've been working on two pages and I'm not sure if I need to separate them yet. (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/FanFic/HorseshoesAndHandGrenades and https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Characters/HorseshoesAndHandGrenades). Would anyone be able to help me on this?

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Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#1228: Apr 21st 2014 at 7:45:47 PM

Minecraft has been subpaged.

EDIT: Attack on Titan has been subpaged.

EDIT #2: For Diablo, all the information pertaining to Diablo 2 needs to be split to its own work page.

edited 21st Apr '14 8:23:21 PM by Willbyr

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Arutema Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#1231: Apr 23rd 2014 at 1:44:47 AM

I've split Pathfinder Deities

edited 23rd Apr '14 1:45:07 AM by Arutema

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#1232: Apr 24th 2014 at 11:03:17 AM

I've created Diablo II and started moving tropes off Diablo to that page, but it's slow going.

MorganWick (Elder Troper)
#1233: Apr 26th 2014 at 4:39:52 PM

Camilla, both your pages are okay for now.

Half Life World Line no longer exists, though I don't know if it's been moved somewhere else.

I'm inclined to leave Work Pages In Main alone on the grounds that it should, ideally, only shrink.

Did WMG.Kingdom Hearts Open Two and am in the process of doing Characters.The Wire.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#1234: Apr 27th 2014 at 3:11:57 AM

Half Life World Line was cut because it's a subpage to an unpublished work. Work Pages In Main does actually get additions periodically, and it's so long that it causes my browser to hang.

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#1235: Apr 27th 2014 at 2:08:25 PM

And here I thought that we used "Theatre" for stage-related works.

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#1236: Apr 27th 2014 at 6:04:56 PM

[up] We do, that change to Theater is incorrect.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#1237: Apr 28th 2014 at 3:28:58 PM

Noting here that ~lexii un-split the Characters.Downton Abbey page. I've re-split it.

edited 28th Apr '14 3:29:08 PM by SeptimusHeap

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lexii from London Since: Jul, 2009
#1238: Apr 29th 2014 at 1:40:53 AM

Hi everyone,

Apologies - I had no idea for the reasons behind page split. All understood.

Lex

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DoctorNemesis Since: Jan, 2001
#1240: May 3rd 2014 at 9:09:12 AM

I've sub-paged the Characters page for Community.

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#1242: May 5th 2014 at 11:19:20 AM

I did Kingdom Hearts: Heroes.

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THEBATHEAD from Fortress of Gorditude Since: Feb, 2014
#1243: May 10th 2014 at 2:39:10 AM

WMG.Touhou is approaching the limit; I have ideas for splitting it up.

All WMGs involving characters from the PC-98 era can go under Touhou: PC-98 Era.

Characters or groups with large numbers of WMGs about them can have their own pages, like Yukari Yakumo, Cirno, Alice Margatroid, Sakuya Izayoi and Touhou Lunarians.

WMGs about the end of the series or Gensokyo can go under Touhou Finale.

Unfortunately, I do not know how to split pages.

edited 10th May '14 2:47:23 AM by THEBATHEAD

MorganWick (Elder Troper)
#1244: May 10th 2014 at 7:14:42 PM

The people you should take it to are the people who actually edit the page regularly. We're fine with however you want to split it so long as it gets split.

To split the page, copy the relevant WMGs for the page you want to create and paste them on WMG.Touhou Insert Description Here. (Not literally that page, of course; see Creating New Pages.) Repeat that for each page you create, then convert the main page into an index for the pages you created (see How Indexing Works for how).

Looks like someone may have already started for you, though.

edited 10th May '14 7:17:10 PM by MorganWick

Malitia Intelligensmosópor-jogi aktivista Since: Mar, 2011 Relationship Status: Not war
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#1245: May 18th 2014 at 3:52:52 AM

I split Roommates and made the original an index.

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#1246: Jun 2nd 2014 at 6:03:01 AM

I did go through Overly Long Pages and pulled some since-shrunk pages off the index. I've also asked in the Roleplay forum about some of the roleplay-associated pages.

Also, I recall that I did propose a split of My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic - General in one of the pony threads and got approval, but I can't find it anymore.

Also, ~Donald The Potholer, did you split JustForFun.Surprisingly Similar Stories? I remember that you did have a split plan.

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DonaldthePotholer Since: Dec, 2009
#1247: Jun 2nd 2014 at 12:53:36 PM

[up] Yes. I went ahead with a split proposed in their discussion pages to split examples that were primarily character-based from ones that were primarily plot-based. The former are now in Surprisingly Similar Characters. (The latter are still on the "Stories" page.)

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#1249: Jun 16th 2014 at 1:06:04 AM

Bumping this for a few problem items:

  • Is it time for another big page report?
  • There has been some issue about how Dungeons & Dragons should be split. I would suggest to bring it to TRS, since the work's thread hasn't agreed on a scheme.
  • There needs to be something done with Headscratcher and WMG pages. Most of them don't have any splittable scheme at all.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#1250: Jun 16th 2014 at 5:55:10 AM

[up] A new list is probably needed. As for the D&D page, since the Franchise page is currently a redirect to the game page, I'd say that big list under the logo can be moved to the Franchise page and expanded some. The trope folders can probably be moved to two pages, each one with three of the folders. Also, the current page for the classes should probably be transplanted to Characters.Dungeons And Dragons Classes

edited 16th Jun '14 5:56:26 AM by Willbyr


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