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No 40K thread yet? I'm surprised. Nay, shocked, shocked I say to discover there's gambling going on in this establishment...

I'm eagerly anticipating the imminent 5th Edition release, personally, but I was interested to know if anyone here plays and has a differing opinion on it. There are certainly plenty of people out there who seem to think that 40K 4th edition "only just" came out and that a new edition isn't needed. Anyone?


Warhammer Fantasy (including Age of Sigmar and WFRP) has its own thread here.

Edited by Mrph1 on Apr 22nd 2024 at 5:37:34 PM

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#21326: May 21st 2015 at 3:51:15 PM

Say, Sanguinius is mentioned in Characters.Warhammer 40000 Imperial Founders' "Primarchs in general" section as a subverted example of Fangs Are Evil. Since when did he have (persumably vampire-like) fangs? I never read anything about this before now.

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YoKab Since: Jan, 2015
#21327: May 22nd 2015 at 1:32:49 PM

I did some searching and I am still unsure, found nothing except a joke about fangs on them on 1d4chan, which is not a very reliable site.

MyssaRei Since: Feb, 2010
#21328: May 23rd 2015 at 2:13:38 AM

[up][up]

No mention of fangs at all with regards to Blood Angels, and Sanguinius in particular. Besides, despite the association of the chapter with vampiric traits, actual visible canines are more of a Space Wolf thing.

YoKab Since: Jan, 2015
#21329: May 23rd 2015 at 2:35:38 AM

Very well, I'll have the tropes about thier fangs removed until further notice.

TheCuriousFan Since: Jan, 2011
#21330: May 23rd 2015 at 4:24:35 AM

IIRC a recent BA model had visible fangs.

Nomic Exitus Acta Probat from beyond the Void Since: Jan, 2001
Exitus Acta Probat
#21331: May 23rd 2015 at 8:36:06 AM

Finally got around to adding some more pictures of my models on my DA page.

edited 23rd May '15 8:36:35 AM by Nomic

YoKab Since: Jan, 2015
#21332: May 23rd 2015 at 9:50:20 AM

That's some real Dakka my friend, good job!

Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#21333: May 24th 2015 at 10:07:14 PM

[up][up] Nice work!

Here's the three unhelmeted Marines I finished (except for varnishing) tonight. I asked on the 40K group on FB, but I'll ask here too - for the eyes, I used Model Color Carmine Red with a tiny dot of Squig Orange in the center, then used Bloodletter glaze. Do you think they're good as is, or should I put the Squig Orange back?

Nomic Exitus Acta Probat from beyond the Void Since: Jan, 2001
Exitus Acta Probat
#21334: May 25th 2015 at 2:51:09 AM

[up]Considering how small the eyes on the model are, I don't think I would bother. Mostly because I just know I'd accidentally mess up the paint job by putting int oo much orange or getting it on the skin...

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#21335: May 25th 2015 at 10:50:01 AM

@Nomic: Those models look good, I especially like the Riptide.

[up][up]I would agree with [up] in not thinking pupils are necessary. I personally don't do pupils for my red-eyed orks.

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#21336: May 25th 2015 at 1:19:38 PM

So the teaser is up for Adeptus Astartes. Space Marine update is go.

Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#21337: May 25th 2015 at 2:07:13 PM

Cool; they're varnished and ready to go.

I thought I'd completely botched my Assault Terminators...used Game Color's Moot Green equivalent for the edge highlighting and they didn't blend after I glazed them at all. Fortunately, a drybrush of 50/50 Warpstone Glow and Moot Green damped it down enough and put back in a highlight that the glaze had pretty much killed.

[up] I'm really interested to see what the new Marines codex brings for formations and detachments.

edited 25th May '15 2:09:04 PM by Willbyr

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#21338: May 25th 2015 at 3:41:03 PM

Would you say that the Emperor of Mankind straddles the line between a very dark sort of Anti-Hero and a Knight Templar and/or Well-Intentioned Extremist kind of Anti-Villain?

In other, fanfic-related news:

  • A fan wrote a story that can be summed as "What if the Tyranids were actually running away from one of the Lost Primachs, who was sent by the Emperor with his Legion to another galaxy during the Great Crusade, because the Emperor forsaw the Devourer's threat and decided to strike the abomination in its very lair?"

  • Here is a story about a quite unconventional band of Chaos Marines, centered around a Tzeentchian Sorceror Marine who is probably the most sane and competent member of the Forces of Chaos, and is steadfastly irate at his patron Chaos God (who apparently finds this amusing enough to let him get away with his impiety).


BTW, what do you suppose a Heretek of the Dark Mechanicus who swore himself to Slaanesh would be like? Tzeentchian Hereteks are the easiest to imagine, as the Lord of Change's purview fits nicely with the typical For Science! mentality that brooks no ethical or moral restraint, while Khorne and Nurgle are also understandable choices for fallen Techpriests who choose to focus on weapons and instruments of murder for the former, and the very processes of death and decay (and, by ironic proxy, life) as well as all sorts of diseases, parasites, and other physical corruption for the latter. But what does Slaanesh, the Chaos God of excess and hedonism, have to offer that would appeal to a Mad Scientist?

edited 25th May '15 5:31:48 PM by MarqFJA

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disruptorfe404 Since: Sep, 2011
#21339: May 25th 2015 at 6:06:38 PM

New space Marine Codex already? Damn, I really don't play enough...

theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#21340: May 25th 2015 at 6:13:22 PM

@ Emprah question: I would say dark Anti-Hero and Knight Templar, yes.

@Slaanesh Heretek: Vibrators. Vibrators everywhere.

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#21341: May 25th 2015 at 6:17:13 PM

@Slaanesh Heretek: Vibrators. Vibrators everywhere.
Ha ha. Now please address the question more seriously.

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theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
Durazno Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#21343: May 25th 2015 at 6:26:23 PM

So I've been thinking about how you'd paint daemons to make them look weird and otherworldy, and one possibility that's occurred to me is marbling. You know, where you float swirled blotches of oil paint on water and then dip what you're painting? Then you could go in and paint details over this abstract pattern.

Just... would that be at all possible to do without destroying the details of the figure?

MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#21344: May 25th 2015 at 7:06:18 PM

The now-dead Ciaphas Cain has to live up to his moniker of HERO OF THE IMPERIUM! once last time as he is forced to play a game of poker against all of the Ruinous Powers over who will get his soul, with the Emperor playing by his side.

[up][up] ... It was? But... But that sounds exactly like what I'd expect to hear from someone jokingly saying that Slaanesh is all about sex, sex, and nothing but sex! There is more to Slaanesh than carnal pleasures, you know.

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MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer
#21347: May 26th 2015 at 4:03:29 AM

[up][up] ... That's all well and good, but it doesn't tell me anything about the Heretek's motivations.

A Khornate one was given a very good example in the Tome of Blood supplement to Black Crusade, where the techpriest in question, who was suffering to meet his arms production quotas due to delayed raw material resupplies (possibly due to under-the-table bribery from a rival techpriest), became "enlightened" to the "truth" that only through bloodshed and violence may one survive and achieve their goal, that only the strongest deserve to live (fun fact: his first act of Khornatism is to release a Khorne-"blessed" computer virus that caused a lot of machinery to go haywire and either explode outright or attack hapless workers, and consequentially killed a lot of people). And while not a direct example, The Lathe Worlds supplement for Dark Heresy showed us what a warrior techpriest may be like (it involves lots of bladed mecha-tentacles, IIRC); not a far step to assume that such techpriests are liable to becoming obsessed with slaughtering enemies for its own sake.

A Nurglesque techpriest, on the other hand, could be motivated by obsession with exploring the secrets of life, death, and putrefaction if more biologically inclined, or simply the process of entropy and physical decay in general if not so biology-focused.

And Tzeentch's portfolio includes those who seek knowledge of any kind (especially the forbidden, even outright sorcerous sort), as well as those who have great ambition (a pride-driven techpriest can desire to achieve a particular, lofty end with his quest for knowledge, rather than seek knowledge for its own sake, right?) or show a predilection for scheming (and we all know how the Adeptus/Dark Mechanicus are with political intrigue, no?). Obsession with change and evolution is also a viable route to Tzeentchianism for a techpriest.

Thus it ends with me getting stumped with Slaanesh. What motivations may drive a techpriest to give himself/herself over to the Lord of Pleasure and Pain that wouldn't end with him/her discarding their Mad Scientist role to become a pure self-indulging hedonist?

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theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#21348: May 26th 2015 at 6:35:51 AM

Maybe wanting flesh again after coming to the conclusion that replacing your entire body with machinery was a fucking stupid idea?

joergenjetsam from The city of constant rain Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#21349: May 26th 2015 at 6:39:14 AM

The desire to excel? I believe that's under Slaanesh's domain, to be the best techpriest.

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Willbyr Hi (Y2K) Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
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#21350: May 26th 2015 at 7:00:28 AM

It would have to be something sensation-based...Slaanesh is primarily about hedonism and extremes of sensation. Maybe the techpriest becomes obsessed with refining sonic weapons?

New space Marine Codex already? Damn, I really don't play enough...

Scuttlebutt I've heard is that the new codex is dropping at the end of the month, along with some new chapter-specific squad packs including a Salamanders Devastator squad, which will make me very happy.

edited 26th May '15 7:01:38 AM by Willbyr


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