This is a "Wild Mass Guess" entry, where we pull out all the sanity stops on theorizing. The regular entry on this topic is elsewhere. Please see this programme note.
open/close all folders
Real!Kirbopher's Dad will reprise his role as the Netking EXE in season 2
There's no evidence for this. He just has a really cool voice.
The Webmaster will be eventually revealed as main villain, and/or creator of the Forbidden Power
It is possible the Forbidden Power was created by the Webmaster as some sort of world domination tool or such, but then the virus either became self aware, or somebody on the inside *cough GC cough* hid it in the depths of TOME. Imagine the amount of power someone who could effectively control the Forbidden Power would have. The ability to cause great amounts of pain to anybody on any computer would leave most of the civilized world at your mercy.
This would also explain why all the admins appear to be so horribly incompetent at their job. It isn't that the reports about the Forbidden Power are being ignored because they are assumed to be false, but instead are being ignored because the admins are in on the Webmasters conspiracy, and will be beneficiaries assuming the Webmasters plot is successful.
Gamecrasher will appear in Season 2
If he's ever going to show up, it's then, since he showed up in Season 2 in TTA.
An advanced AI, apparently capable of passing any and all turing tests, who is either...
a pawn of Netking Software (which explains why he seems to know so much about the game and how it works)
is just a normal person who's in a country where passports are harder to come by.
is a "White or Gray hat" hacker.
There will be good, or at the very least neutral, hacker characters at some point
Hacking is not an inherently evil act. Sure, it's usually associated with going into people's computers and stealing information, but it's actually more in and of itself about creativity than simply antagonizing people and being a bully. Hacker culture does certainly focus on lack of authority, but it also is about sharing creative uses of software. In fact, one could argue the internet and video games as a whole came from hacking old hardware that would eventually become the basis for that. Point is, it would be interesting for TOME to show the other side of hacking and not just use it as an interchangeable word for "evil forbidden magic that only bad guys use because they are bad". In fact, it would be a huge waste not to. And no, Demonking doesn't count unless he actually uses his hacking ability for good purposes now that he is "reformed".
Does Neomutant count? His motives seem somewhat sympathetic/personal.
I meant ones that were completely unaffiliated with D-bug, but one that's not just out for himself is certainly a step in the right direction. Though it makes you wonder why he needed the group at all when he was already plenty skilled at hacking.
perhaps he joined them to get more information about the forbidden power from them? If the end of the episode is any indication the Big Bad seems to know something about it.
The next arc will involve meeting the other creators of TOME
The reboot has been a loose adaptation of the original TTA so far, so it's likely it will continue this for at least awhile longer.
The third missing piece of the weapon
When Kizuna mentions the "secret weapon" for which the virus is needed, she also points out that the other two pieces will be in close proximity when Zetto confronts Alpha. Behind her are images of the purple flame and a silhouette of a dragon, which likely alludes to the D-Bug from TTA. The flames are already with Flamegirl, and the only other person there was Nylocke, who refers to himself as a dragon and has special dragon attributes. It's likely that, if this component isn't already linked to Nylocke, it will be at some point in the next season.
The main characters will join with Zetto and Kizuna in order to find the virus
The original purpose of Zetto's plan was to obtain the virus and sealing it. Now that it is out in the wild, it is still a major target, even if it is still confined in the Drain Edge. Whatever plans Zetto has after getting it will come to light later on, but to find the virus, it may be easier for them to work together to find it
In Season 2 The Forbidden Power will "go viral"
After (if it) breaking out of the drain edge it will be free to wreak havoc however it wants the forbidden power will split apart and infect many players to ramp up the conflict instead of just affecting one. Leading to a fad of cheating and abuse in TOME by ordinary players, which would be encouraged by rambunctious hackers like Rockoon, and players obsessed with the rumors like Thorment.
Flamegirl used to be a Hacker
She has a drive to fight against the hackers like Nylocke, but it looks and feels more like a personal vendetta than an actual act of goodwill. She was also implied to have some sort of past relationship with Neomutant, and even offered to work with the D. Bug Organization but refused due to how shady they work (as well as how shady of the info Neo was to her).
The voice in the "About TOME" video and the buffering jokes during the tournament will be an important character
Namely the reboot's version of Blitz128, based on the similar voice and style of humor
Kirb/Zetto's real name will be Christopher (basically canon already), Nylocke's real name will be Colin, and Gamecrazed's real name (assuming that he is - or was - human in this iteration) will be Nate. This gives every main character the same real name as their TTA counterpart.
Once Season 1 has finished uploading onto YouTube...
There will be a preview for Episode 11 at the end of Episode 10.
There will be a proper trailer for Season 2 as a whole.
There will be a preview of a new project like Balancing Act.
Season 2 will introduce the Ranks of Sanctuary
In TOME, the Sanctuary Region is only used for social networking and not combat, and we weren't shown any of it in the first season. However, with the Forbidden Power currently there, it's influence may spread to the uses in the region and hack the system, allowing for combat. While the Ranks of Sanctuary were super-elite players in the original TTA, they may end up being ordinary users corrupted by the Forbidden Power here.
But then that begs the question: Where were these super-elite players when the hackers were out and about?
They didn't exist yet - the super-elite players are from TTA, and these "ordinary users corrupted by the Forbidden Power" (emphasis on ordinary) would be the TOME versions of them. Since the Forbidden Power didn't make it to Sanctuary until the end of the first season, they wouldn't have been corrupted yet - they'd just be ordinary players, presumably with ordinary powers.
Zetto may or may not be a netking in the reboot
It seems safe to say that Zetto being a netking is Jossed. Given that the silhouette's of the Netkings when Webmaster is being interviewed don't include him. And that in episode 10 Kindarspirit, the first admin after Webmaster we get to see, apparently doesn't even know his name, only referring to him as "that guy", while just before that being familiar enough with Webmaster to refer to him by his Username casually. Her reaction is not one you'd expect from people who have met before. Or from someone working on the same development team even.
It may be too soon to say that. Zetto's relationship with the Netkings may have changed, but this doesn't necessarily mean he wasn't a part of the team. Also, his link to the virus seems to be the same or similar to the original series, which would only be possible if they kept the rest of his past intact.
It seems unlikely he was part of their core team since they don't seem familiar with him. And it wouldn't be required at all for him to be a netking to fight the forbidden power and to have met developers of the game at the time it happened. For all we know since he's been playing for so long he could have been a beta tester for the game when that happens. Which for MMO's beta players are usually unpaid, and would be open to the public to enjoy (or at least it'd be open to people who can win beta keys from events). He wouldn't be a member of the staff in that case, and it'd be understandable if the devs forgot a beta player's username with the amount of players that have joined since. That and Zetto has also modified the way his character looks since then.
Note that Nylocke points out that "Master Zetto" (an interesting designation in and of itself) has been playing TOME even longer than he has, but makes no allusion to him ever having been on-staff. The beta tester theory does fit his longevity and intimate knowledge of the game.
While interesting, Nylocke was mocking Zetto for getting agitated at his roleplaying at the time. Nylocke also calls himself "master" too. It seems it's a title he uses for people who have a certain amount of experience playing the game. One also gets the impression he called Zetto that at the tournament because he saw him as an equal in battle. That makes one wonder why he doesn't call GC master though. Maybe Nylocke has been playing TOME longer than GC?
Nylocke's definitely been playing TOME longer than GC. He even describes meeting GC upon "his very first login", which was about "half a year ago" according to Kirb (which actually gives GC the second-shortest tenure on TOME of the Five-Man Band as far as we know - Alpha's only been on for "a few months" as of "Awaken the Beast").
GC didn't know that Zetto was Kirb at first, but figured it out on his own
The premise that GC was not involved with the hackers' plot is a corollary to this theory. GC and Zetto interact verbally only once: at the end of "Awaken the Beast". Their entire exchange is as follows:
Gamecrazed: What transpired here?
Zetto: Oh, this? We were just playing. He lost.
This is the only time in the whole series we ever really see GC not knowing what's going on - if he had any idea, about any aspect of it, that exchange wouldn't have gone down the way it did. But GC is very clever, insightful, and sneaky - he probably made it his mission to figure out what the deal was. My guess is that he figured it out sometime between his dialogue with Kirb in "Dragon Drama" (an episode which is filled with examples of how perceptive GC is), and their brief little exchange in "Gemini Tournament Yin" ("What do you have to be upset about?"). Judging from Kirb's reaction, by that time he knew that GC knew, as well.
Alternatively, given that Kirb was spilling his guts in "Dragon Drama" he could very well have let slip that he was Zetto at that time. But I think it's more likely that GC figured it out and bluntly confronted him about it, similar to how he did with Nylocke in that same episode (although probably not quite as politely).
If this was the case, then why didn't GC decide to help when he figured out Kirb's identity? If this was before Episode 6, he could've given up the Drain Edge, which would've probably made the whole sealing of the virus at least a bit easier. Might've at least saved Kizuna whatever it cost to hire Dustbunny and Neomutant to steal the shield.
Simple - by the time GC figured it out, he'd already given up the Drain Edge to Nylocke. As far as not helping - GC didn't have the Drain Edge anymore, so how could he? And if GC did confront Kirb/Zetto, I suspect he was asked to not tell anybody, so he remained neutral (which is why he doesn't fight any more hackers from episode 7 on). This ties into the implied reason for GC's absence from the showdown in "The Warring Demons" - he didn't want to come between his friends. (Although he was probably watching the whole thing anyway - in the shadows.)
But this isn't a matter between friends, this is a matter between Kirb and the virus with Alpha and the rest caught in crossfire. GC at least cares about them and TOME even if he doesn't want to get into personal matters, and the virus is (allegedly) a very real problem for TOME as a whole, so even if he'd already given it to Nye, why not just inform him of the situation? Nye's a bragger, but he knows when things are serious enough to warrant an organized front. Then again, Kirb should've also done the same with Flamey once they were sure about the virus and the effectiveness of the anti-virus.
GC obviously had misgivings about Kirb/Zetto's plan (which is probably part of where the scorn in the "What do you have to be upset about?" comes from) but the timeframe was pretty brief - for all we know, GC only put it all together right before the Gemini Tournament, he confronted Kirb, who assured him that he had a plan - and even a backup, assuming that it fell through. Remember that Flamey's pretty sure she can keep Alpha under control with the anti-virus (even if she doesn't quite understand what it is), and Alpha only becomes vocal about his internal struggle with the Forbidden Power in the last episode, after which Zetto immediately contacts him and promises to resolve it. By this time, GC definitely knows what's going on, and presumably he trusts Zetto to successfully extract the virus from Alpha - which he does, more or less, even when he's in his Demon form. What would have happened to Zetto if Nylocke weren't there to use the Drain Edge is another question - although it's interesting that Nylocke knew exactly how to use the Drain Edge the way he did, but that's a whole other WMG.
But he didn't have a back up. And would it not be more proficient to make sure the person that you're giving a prototype of an experimental anti-virus for a highly dangerous and unpredictable program that makes you feel pain in a virtual environment knows what the hell they're up against and why they were chosen? She's already at great risk by being right next to their target, so he might as well give her all the information he has. And even if Kirb some how convinced GC not to get involved, that doesn't answer why he didn't let Nylocke in on the plan. Even if he was completely assured that his perfected program would work (which it didn't), what harm would there be in having a back up? Maybe if Nye knew what he needed to do, he would've disposed of the virus in better way than throwing it in a random direction.
Yes, he did have a backup - the shield couldn't absorb the Forbidden Power directly, so Zetto hijacked the absorption code from it to use instead - which (after a fashion) did work. As far as the rest of your questions, they really don't address the WMG so much as ask why Zetto did what he did - and to be honest, I don't think he (or d-buggers.org, for that matter) is intended as some grand Xanatos-style schemer - some of his strategizing simply didn't pan out, and that's the way it goes. And yes, the Forbidden Power is still out there, but there wouldn't be a season 2 (fingers crossed) if it wasn't.
The secret weapon mentioned by Kizuna is the reboot's answer to the original's D-Bug Dragon.
As she refers to it the view focuses on the conspicuous two-tone silver background object that resembles a segment of the original's draconic body. Kizuna also drops the fact that they "know it works", which is obviously referring to the antivirus software that they attached to Flamegirl—which is represented in the game by purple fire, much like the D-Bug's power in the original. Here in the reboot the dragon would seem to be a potential good counterpart to the Forbidden Power.
On that note, related: the Forbidden Power will get its own body at some later point (perhaps distorting a Shadowguard Beast quest mob?) and they'll send the dragon at it. Virtual reality program kaiju fight anyone?
Gemini Tournament Teams
Seemingly confirmed - see the Cameo Event video, in which every character in a known pairing is lined up next to their partner - so are these two.
Seemingly confirmed - see the entry directly above.
What about Sniperwheel and someone voiced by PeanutButterGamer? He works with JonTron a lot, and doesn't have Ego's criticism of the show (as far as I'm aware.) Although, they wouldn't be able to make Game Grumps references, which would be the main reason for having Egoraptor there in the first place.
It should be noted that Chris O'Neill (aka Oney), who also criticized the early episodes of TOME very harshly, made a cameo appearance in "Infectuation", and since he (like JonTron) is a close collaborator with Egoraptor, that might (emphasis on might) be a good sign for Arin's chances of making a cameo himself.
Since Jon and Game Grumps are splitsville now, it looks like the odds of Arin making a cameo have pretty much evaporated.
Jossed. Kirb teams up with Archy
Zetto/ Ruri (assuming that is her name in this iteration)
Seemingly confirmed, judging by this teaser art◊ for Episode 8 posted to the series' Facebook page
Rockoon/Doubling : Niosi has stated that he enjoys their dynamic, and in episode 4 Rockoon said that he misses Doubling.
But they've both been identified by several people as hackers.
Confirmed in the new short "Rockoon's Modern Strife". In a twist Doubling is playing as a different character. A fighter named "Skeight". He joins Rockoon in the tournament, with Rockoon being unaware he's secretly Doubling.
A Hacker team will show up. Possibly with an Early-Bird Cameo of characters from the original series.
Confirmed. See above
Serpentine/A Gamecrazed Evil Counterpart. or Serpentine/A Hacker. And they'll be paired up against Nylocke/Gamecrazed.
The Gamecrazed counterpart would likely be Splat, or TOME's version of Gamecrasher.
Doubling is also an evil Morphological, but both he and Splat have been ID'd as hackers, so that's a no-go on either of them competing.
Until episode 8 or Word of God confirms it though, them being excluded just for being hackers is just an assumption.
Serpentine/Demonking (hey, he did say Nylocke would pay)
I really doubt he'd go straight to the guy who harassed him through the entire region for knowledge he said he can't teach to get "revenge" for one small misunderstanding.
She works for D-Buggers too, and he could get with her to get over Flamey.
Splat, like Neomutant, has been outed as a hacker. Asterob was contracted by the admins to make the mansion that she broke into, so he'd probably be good enough testimony to bar her from competition.
Again, public use of hacking is not likely to give him permission to participate in public events.
He got around his hacker reputation by making a new bright red character "Rackoon".
A quick and easy way to confirm Zetto's affiliation with d-buggers.org. Also, it provides an It's Personal angle for both Alpha and Flamey at the same time.
A more direct form of help from D-Buggers.
Jossed, the pairing is Neomutant and a new hacker, Dustbunny.
Basically confirmed from their appearance in the Cameo Event video; they're lined up next to each other, just like every known pairing for the tournament.
Gemini Tournament match ups
Nylocke /Gamecrazed vs Saturndiva/Whyti (GC fought SD in the original, and it's likely they'll maintain at least some of the fights there if they can)
Alpha/Flamegirl vs Neomutant/Partner
Kirbopher/Archy vs Zetto/Partner
The only WMG on this list to be confirmed...and it's only partial. Archy gets taken out in the first round and for some reason is not allowed back in, and Kirb essentially gives up when the battle starts, making this a fight in name only.
Kirbopher/Archy vs Alpha/Flamegirl (Kirb did say he'd kick their ass.)
Nylocke/Gamecrazed vs Neomutant/Partner
( Reasoning: At the end of episode 7 Tigerlilly says Neomutant's next mission is to retreive an "item that's eluded them". Neomutant's next mission might be to steal the drain edge from Nylocke and Gamecrazed so that they can store the forbidden power inside it.)
Alpha/Flamegirl vs Cameo Event Winners
Nylocke/Gamecrazed vs Cameo Event Winners
Kirbopher/Archy vs Cameo Event Winners
Zetto/Partner vs Cameo Event Winners
Rockoon/Skeight vs Cameo Event Winners
Nylocke/Gamecrazed vs Asterob/Sniperwheel (Their matches in Round 2 are against nameless mooks, and Demonking, who only advanced to that round because they fought other nameless mooks)
Finals (in order of most likely to least likely):
Zetto/Kizuna vs Nylocke/Gamecrazed (To mirror the final match in the original version)
Alpha/Flamegirl vs Nylocke/Gamecrazed (Possible; A good-hearted match to close out beating Zetto and/or whatever hacker threat that arises)
Zetto/Kizuna vs Asterob/Sniperwheel (Less possible; A decisive, depressing and dismissive win to further drive home the loss of both remaining protagonist teams)
Alpha/Flamegirl vs Asterob/Sniperwheel (Yeah, no.)
Nylocke receiving the drain edge is foreshadowing for something big that will happen during/after the tournament arc
Since the drain edge is a very powerful item it could be foreshadowing for something that will happen in a battle during the tournament, or possibly set up how he could win the tournament. Or some unknown event during/after the tournament. And if it's any of those things you know he's going to do something badass with it.
The fact that it's in on an actual sword which can hypothetically be separated from the character, rather than a blade that seems to literally be the character's arm, means that it might be able to store Alpha's "forbidden power".
Jossed. They were after Asterob's shield and the Forbidden power cannot be contained by Asterob's beta items.
Un-jossed. Nylocke uses the drain edge to contain the Forbidden Power from Zetto after he absorbs all of it, similar to the original.
Also the fact that it seems impervious to any damage, and that it can unleash ChargedAttacks the same way Asterob's shield does, seems to suggest that it could even absorb Zetto's KiAttacks, and send themback at him. Gamecrazed himself said breaking it was "impossible".
Confirmed that he uses it to absorb Zetto's Ki attacks.
The story will completely diverge from TTA after the tournament
We've already had two filler episodes that were longer than the ones with adapted material, and the tournaments already been changed to a tag-team one, so it's safe to say it's going to be entirely different by the time we finish with that arc
Confirmed. Zetto turning out to be Kirbopher is a Shocking Swerve which has no antecedent in the original TTA.
Flamegirl will get virus powers instead of Kirbopher
Aside from being Alpha's love interest in the show Niosi hasn't been able go much of anywhere with her character arc so far. This has been noted in episode 5 when Kirb and Flamey argue with each other. And Niosi clearly wants to make her more of a Bad Ass this time around. Giving her unique powers is one way he could do that. So in an effort to figure out what's going on with Alpha she'll stumble upon a virus power that puts her into a similar situation to the one Alpha's in. Also the D-bug in TTA has purple FLAMES. c'mon! It totally makes more sense for her to have it!
She's shown to be using some sort of power with a purple flame around her in episode 7. Niosi also states in episode 7's commentary that it was planned all along before episode 1 was even made for Flamegirl to get the purple flame's powers in the reboot.
That, however, was confirmed to be the result of Ravenfreak planting that violet flame power on her back in Episode 3, specifically as a means of keeping Demon!Alpha in check. Whether this implanted power will result in virus powers is anyone's guess, but if a Cooldown Hug is all it takes, I doubt the Hackers would intentionally give Flamey that extra power.
Well they call it a power themselves in the show, but aside from that it's practically Word of God by this point. Chris has stated in a commentary of episode 07 that it was always intended for flamegirl to get the violet flame power instead of Kirbopher. And the script supervisor Liz mentions her getting "a power of her own" in a fanart for the show.
The Five-Man Band will patch everything up by the end of Episode 08
This is because "Fraggedquest" was originally intended as Episode 08 (before Niosi rescheduled it for Episode 04 to serve as a suitable finale in case he decided to end production on the series), and all is well with them at the beginning of the episode (in fact, questing together could be interpreted as a whole "burying the hatchet" gesture). Because "Fraggedquest" being moved to fourth bumped everything after it, this makes the original Episode 07 the new Episode 08.
Jossed. They actually seem more divided than ever, but make up a couple episodes later.
is being sent by Ruri or whatever her name is in the reboot. Being Zetto's likely partner in the tournament, she may be sending them after potentially strong competitors to test them, as well as provoke the virus within Alpha.
Could be the random red cat seen in Episode 03 and 05 with transformation powers. It could also be a player since it appears to log in to the game like one in Dragon Drama.
Or the cat IS Ruri, who can transform like Ravenfreak did.
I am 90% sure that this is the case. In this early concept art of TOME done by Kirbopher, not only is Ruri's color scheme the same as the cat's, but she also has the same bell on her tail that the cat has.
In the episode 3 Commentary Blake Swift says the Dbuggers.org logo "looks like a Kitty" the logo also has four circles for eyes, just like the Tigerlilly's four eyes. A cat also appears earlier in the same episode (one episode after the icon was first shown). And a red cat appears in episode 05 before Tigerlilly attacks. Tigerlilly might be the leader of the Hackers, observing the main characters and hacker henchmen in the form of a small red cat, and testing if the main characters have the Forbidden Power in the Robotic Cat form.
is this reboot's version of Voltarius. Tigerlilly is the confirmed leader of the Dbuggers.org group, like how Voltarius was leader of the D-Bug (and D-Bug II) in the original series, and appears to be some mecha suit hiding a character inside, much like Voltarius was with TTA!Zetto.
Since at least two characters have shown that you can make new characters by creating different accounts. It's likely that Tigerlily could be anyone else introduced in the show playing the Tigerlilly character.
Zetto is Kirbopher using Multiple Accounts (Multi-Boxing)
At least one person who commented on Newgrounds believes this, and it's actually possible in some games to run two game clients on the same computer. In other games you have to run them on multiple computers. The only question would be if there are any restrictions on Multi-Boxing in TOME that make it impossible. In fact there's plenty of details that suggest Zetto and Kirbopher are the same person, such as:
Along with Kirbopher, Zetto was another name that Niosi used on the TV Tome forums that TOME is inspired from. They also have the same voice actor in both the original and the reboot of the show; in fact, they're the only named characters who share a voice actor. Even most of the extras have their own individual voice actors!
We know that Demon Alpha's attacks cause the people they affect to log out. Moments after Kirb was knocked from the game, Zetto signed in.
Upon signing in, Zetto's first words are "Well, it's about time" which are the words Kirb greets Alpha with in episode 1.
Zetto has some apparent familiarity with Alpha.
Some time after Zetto retreats from the crater he left Alpha in, Kirb signs back in.
They both love PvP, so much that they end up seeming like the online gaming version of a BloodKnight.
Finally In episodes 2 and 4 Kirbopher is passionately against giving any real life information about himself to other players, even his friends. Instead of being simply paranoid, the real reason for this is because he's really someone else, and revealing his real self would reveal his other identity!
Or he could just be naturally suspicious of giving personal information to people he's never met in real life, which anyone in their right mind would be.
Still, the personalities between the two are different, from friendly competitive and borderline obsessive. If the virus power causes a change to the person in real life instead of giving them head trauma upon kicked out, it might be a believable case. Especially if Kirb vaguely remembers what happened and is actually beat up about not just pushing Alpha off the deep end, but thoroughly handing his ass to him.
Their personalities being slightly different is also believable if they're roleplaying. Which a multiboxer might do anyway if they didn't want their multi-boxing to be obvious.
This theory makes more sense if Zetto is the main account. He could be the Inspector Javert using Kirbopher as a molecharacter to investigate the "forbidden power". Note that Zetto doesn't even have to be The Mole or Inspector Javert intentionally. For all we know he could be a famous player or a Netking, who draws a crowd, and originally created the Kirbopher character so people wouldn't bug him with questions while he's playing. Meaning all of Kirb's character development up to "Awaken The Beast" and after that would still be real.
Also if Zetto has the same backstory as in TTA. Feeling the pain inflicted from the forbidden power on the Kirbopher character would likely provoke him to sign in as Zetto. Since it hurt him in the past, if he's not still obsessed with it in this version he'd likely want to protect other people from being harmed by it.
Jossed. Kirb and Zetto appear in different areas at several points in Episode 8, and eventually are matched against each other, with Zetto the winner.
Not really. As noted earlier in the first entry it's possible to run two accounts at the same time in some MMO's, or you can use multiple PC's as well to play two characters in the same place. In fact if it were one person controlling both characters the fact that Kirb let Zetto kill him, and barely even moved, and didn't even speak, during the match makes sense, because it's harder to control two characters at once, and make a convincing fight because of the amount of multitasking it takes, and possible lag that would come with it.
Zetto's angry rant towards Nylocke seems quite personal as a "Reason You Suck Speech", with "awkward social antics" and "pathetic coping mechanisms". Plus, as the first time being genuinely pissed off in his showing thus far, he sounded a LOT like Kirb. The only thing that stays my vote is how in the previous episode, Zetto was listed with a different voice actor: Tony A. Campbell.
Confirmed in Episode 10.
Zetto's character breakdown states this was one of the first ideas that came up when the "remake" was just beginning to be conceptualized
d-buggers.org's identity is...
...Hyprelynx! Clearly the logo looks just like her head and their names are both computer puns! Or it could just be Zetto again like in TTA.
Rockoon. The logo looks a bit like him.
Rockoon has also never been seen conferring with d-buggers.org, despite being by far the most frequently-appearing hacker.
Tigerlilly. The logo "looks like a Kitty", has four circles for "eyes" just like Tigerlilly, the logo is reddish, and so far this is the only other antagonistic character to appear in TOME, aside from Rockoon and the "Forbidden Power", that frequently interacts with the main characters.
Seems to be confirmed in Episode 7
In addition, Tigerlily is also Kizuna, as well as the mysterious red cat.
Or alternatively maybe it just looks like a cat because d-buggers.org thinks cats areevil
Alpha and Flamey are going to hook up in Episode 07.
Either as a Relationship Upgrade, or just as partners in the Gemini Tournament, or both. Niosi has been implying that 07 is going to be an Alpha-centric episode, and the romance has mostly been on the back-burner since "Highest Form of Flattery", so he'll probably want to revisit that. He's also stated that we're going to learn a bit more about the personal lives of the players in 07, and one of the easiest ways to do that is establish a relationship between two of them that (presumably) carries on outside of TOME.
Considering pretty much all of their development as a romantic couple apparently happened before the series started (and all of Flamey's development is dependent on Alpha), the only thing left for them to do is kiss.
Also worth noting is that Alpha has yet to appear without Flamey (whereas she at least got her own short), so that dependency goes both ways to an extent. Therefore, an Alpha-centric episode would most likely feature her anyway.
Partnership confirmed. Relationship seemingly upgraded, but isn't much different from how it was before.
Actually there is a small difference now. Now they're a Battle Couple.
Again, how is that different than before?
Actually, Niosi says he doesn't consider it to be a relationship upgrade in episode 07's commentary!
So...does that mean this WMG is Jossed?
Their Relationship Upgrade is Jossed because: in their words it's "heavily implied, to happen but they haven't officially gotten together yet."
If Alpha and Flamey ever go on a "date", that's when we'll finally see ;Sanctuary
This also applies to any other potential romantic pairings, like Nylocke/Whyti.
The "lush green groves" make the most sense for a romantic venue in TOME, and since there's no battling there, it's a good opportunity for the characters to just talk. And since Kirb, GC, and Nye are all pretty battle-happy, it's an easy way to ditch them in ;Mechcity or ;Lavendera so that they don't tag along.
Jossed, Sanctuary is seen in the final scenes of the season finale.
Kirbopher, and Flamegirl's "Rivalry" over Alpha will come up again in Episode 07
Basically Flamegirl and Kirbopher's rivalry over Alpha that Nylocke implies in episode 05 will come up again. I also don't think Niosi would just leave his own character hanging, after what happened in Episode 06, and would at least touch on the plot point of Alpha needing to chose one of them as partners for the tournament. So maybe Kirb overhears Flamegirl ask Alpha to be her partner first. Maybe Kirb will try to apologize, or get into another argument. Although they might make up by the end of the episode or in episode 08 too.
Kirb's conflict is addressed in a rather direct, but subtle way.
The "New Characters" Niosi said will be appearing in episode 07 is...
An original character?
Gamecrasher: Gamecrazed's brother (in the original) who will become the sixth member to solve the problem of their not being enough people to all get partners
Jossed. The new character is "Archy" formerly Ericho in TTA
So, Tigerlilly just sent him to the tournament to be banned? How does that help them?
I'd think it wouldn't? I'm not sure how that fits in the context I'm talking about. It doesn't necessarily have to be Zetto who bans him.
It's not about whether it's Zetto or not, it's just that they seem to be using a fully capable minion poorly, if they are in fact sending him to his doom.
I don't think it's part of their plan to send him to get banned. If someone did ban him during the tournament it'd probably because of a mistake Neomutant or his partner would make. Or perhaps he'd be banned for a completely different reason. Like Cyberstalking.
Well, that too, but I would think that hacking would be enough to warrant that, considering everyone who's not a bad guy has dismissed it as a game-ruiner.
Flamegirl's violet flames were a counter measure put in place by Tigerlilly through Ravenfreak in Episode 03
When Ravenfreak reports in at the end of the episode, he mentions doing something to her while pretending to be Alpha. The plan might be to encode a program which impedes the virus within the person Alpha, the carrier, feels closest to, thus making capture that much easier.
Flamegirl's haircut is the beginning of some sort of transformation from whatever's inside her
Because why else would virtual hair get singed by virtual fire?
Jossed. Word of God says the in-story reason her hair was burnt short was because Ravenfreak planted her powers in her hair when he got in contact with her character in Episode 3.
Because Niosi got frustrated with animating all that hair?
Confirmed in the episode 7 commentary. Niosi states again that he really just couldn't animate all that hair anymore, so he placed the reason for burning it short in Episode 3.
The Drain Edge is one of a kind and a key component to d.buggers.org plans
This appears to be the most likely explanation as to why the group has been targeted by hackers even when Alpha is absent from the party. The hackers are trying to steal the Drain Edge possibly as a means to acquire or counter the forbidden power. This would explain why Asterob has not been targeted again by hackers since Episode 2, as well as Tigerlilly's motivation for attacking Nylocke and Gamecrazed in Episode 6.
This might have been hinted at at the end of episode 07 when Tigerlilly says Neomutant's next mission during the tournament is to "retreive an item that has so far eluded them"
It's also the only item that has ever been introduced in the show, so that kind of narrows it down.
Half Confirmed, half Jossed. The item they steal is actually Asterob's Shield with the same ability. They seem to not be aware of the drain edge as they never saw GC receive it in the episode it was introduced.
Sniperwheel's partner (whether voiced by Arin or not) will reference the "WHAT IS THIS" moment from Game Grumps when they lose
Because this show loves references. Alternatively, there will be a telekinetic character saying "IT'S NO USE".
Nye and GC will win the Gemini Tournament
For a number of potential reasons. First and foremost, Nailock was the winner of the tournament arc in the original TTA. This puts Nylocke in the prestigious position of having past canon on his side, and in turn GC as well. Second, out of story, it does make a certain amount of sense to have the most popular character take the tournament, which leaves Alpha free to have his re-match with Zetto not being center stage, but somewhere else. Third, in-story, Nye and GC have been playing specifically as a duo for over half a year now. Besides both being powerful in their own right, they've been mastering teamwork from the very beginning. No inner demons to overcome, no burdening relationships to put aside, no secret mission to focus on. They even have the Drain Edge on their side as a clincher to overcome enemies like Zetto. By all means, this is the duo with the highest chance to take it all in my opinion.
Alternatively the duo's combined strength could easily be a set up for The Worf Effect against the Hacker or Zetto teams.
Jossed Nylocke throws the match to make a point to Zetto, making the win feel hollow
Tigerlilly/D-buggers.org Is a girl
High voice, Cats.
Zetto's girlfriend in the original was Ruri, a catgirl. Added with the fact that the mysterious cat, which is likely Tigerlily's animal form, has the same design as Ruri's in the promotional art, and you can pretty much call this confirmed already.
To wit, there's build-up to the tournament, but is divided into two episodes to further symbolize the "Yin" and "Yang" aspect (and avoid that most tourneys have episode counts longer than that). The only new characters introduced are Neomutant and Zetto's partners, the Webmaster, and the refs (aside from cameos that we don't really see). Fights are pretty simplistic and rapid fire to keep the (in-verse) audience entertained. They're made as brief as the rest of the previous fights in the series thus far: some were actually cut off from the GT episodes, due to either a buffering joke or Alpha's ambush scene happening at the same as Team Nye vs Team DK. There's no framing device or conspiracy going on other than the hacker attempt that resolves itself without disrupting the tourney's conclusion.
Not introducing that many new characters and rushing a lot of time between matches isn't really a subversion. One could say it's just bad pacing. Plus, making it "Just A Tournament" is basically playing it straight as it gets. It's the Not Just A Tournament trope that's the subversion, and even if it's become the norm now, taking it out does not make this a deconstruction.
But most importantly, it was not central for the main protagonists to "win" the tournament. They and their friends all entered it for fun (except Team Neomutant that had an agenda to keep on Alpha). Only Zetto was serious about winning, and was disappointed that his opponents were either too weak, too hindered, or not even taking the fight seriously. There was no real conflict to win or lose other than that Flamey was missing her partner (which lead to the early events of Yang) and even then, Team Alpha and Team Nylocke were just enjoying themselves. It really breaks away from the number of Tournament Arcs that had something serious for a conflict, and yet bring another one entirely with Zetto's attitude. This is also a far cry from the original TTA series, where Zetto lost to Nailock to knock him off his high horse of being the best in one tourney, or had tied with Alpha due to an interruption in another. Here, Zetto gets what he wants, but is left to ponder if it's what he really wants.
Kirbopher is arguably another character who wasn't in the tournament for fun or at least (judging by his gloomy attitude during it) had no expectation of having any fun at the tournament. Mostly because he didn't trust Archy at all to support him through the rounds, and felt like he was wasting everyone's time. In fact he spent most of the time between matches without his partner, warning his friends about the other players, and that they should watch out for them so they could win. His arc through out part Yin was also centered around building his character through misery, which is a huge contrast to the rest of the main characters.
There are numerous examples in played-straight Tournament Arcs where the protagonist team does not win, Dragon Ball, YuYu Hakusho and Pokemon among them. And again, having no underlying plot to the tournament is playing it straight, not subverting or deconstructing it.
In Episode 10 Zetto will seek out Alpha because of his "interest" in the Forbidden Power
It's implied by Alpha that Zetto wants something with Alpha's Forbidden Power in a similar vein to the hackers. Maybe just in interest to have another fight with Alpha in his demon form. Or perhaps to take the power for himself somehow. And the hints like Zetto claiming he organized the tournament and not webmaster seem to indicate it's following TTA somewhat.
Confirmed. Sort of While using Kirbopher as an alternate character he overhears Alpha talking about how the virus is "still lingering inside his head" and decides to remove it from Alpha for good. Rather than being interested in using it for himself though he's genuinely concerned for Alpha's well being.
Which character Happy Harry is voicing in episode 10
Giga, the Inspector Javert character from the TTA series, who debates that Alpha is a hacker himself fighting other hackers.
Woah! Nice theory! If that happened it would turn the episode into a three way conflict between The Hackers, Zetto, and the Inspector Javert, all going after Alpha. That would certainly raise the stakes of the finale by A LOT.
Not sure that'd be a very sound argument, since Alpha hasn't used the virus willingly since Episode 4.
He'd believe in a virus that's strong enough to hurt people in a virtual setting, but not one that's strong enough to do things autonomously?
Of course not. The context of the original post about Giga was that he believes Alpha is a hacker hacking to fight other hackers. He wouldn't be aware of the virus. I was saying he wouldn't believe in Alpha and his friends who would be making that claim. Hence the link to Cassandra Truth. To an Inspector Javert character he'd think that's just them trying to find an excuse to get out of trouble.
To be fair, SELF-DEFENSE is a pretty good "excuse". Plus the Harry Patridge character is clearly referring to the virus in the trailer, so whoever this is, Giga or not, they are very much aware of it.
The 7th short will relate to the virus
Namely with Thorment finding it in Sanctuary and keeping it for himself
It did relate to the virus, but Thorment didn't have much to do with it.
The 7th Short will star Kirbopher and Gamecrazed
Considering Kirbopher's standing in the wreckage of the stadium with him in episode 10, and Gamecrazed saying "it's over". Gamecrazed's line could lead into a short about him confronting Kirbopher for using Zetto as an alternate identity.
Nope, it starred Zetto (well, he narrated it, anyway).
The 7th Short will be about Zetto's first confrontation with The Forbidden Power
Episode 10 shows a quick flashback of an earlier model of Zetto's character in the Sanctuary region. And the episode implies that he confronted The Forbidden Power before it took over Alpha. There was also a similar episode in TTA that gave some back story on the origin's of TOME and the Netkings.
It turned out to be a Clip Show narrated by Zetto, giving us the events of Season 1 from his perspective.
Kirb isn't The Mole, but a persona the player uses to avoid drama (or tries to, anyway)
Basically a rebuttal to the "obvious" conclusion that Kirb joined the Five-Man Band to scout for the Forbidden Power. I think he honestly wanted to put the "drama" of his time as Zetto behind him and enjoy hanging out with some other players. (I think the ending of episode 10 supports this - Kirb really seems content with being there.) Obviously he wants to avoid fighting the hackers because they're with Kizuna (and they're the ones looking for the Forbidden Power), but I think he was more than happy to let them do their thing until it latched onto Alpha, which forced his hand (and Zetto didn't show up until immediately after Kirb was attacked by Demon Alpha - it was the only way to keep him under control at that point). There are still plenty of unanswered questions, though - like how Gamecrazed is involved (was he genuinely curious about him in "Mansion Midnight" or was there more to it?), and what would have happened if Kirb did get Alpha to partner with him for the tournament. Surely at some point Alpha/Kirb would have gone up against Zetto/Kizuna - how would that have gone down?
While I agree that Zetto made Kirb to make a fresh start, there's still the fact that he asked Kizuna to help him look for the virus, and then she hired the hackers. It was Alpha's coincidental (at least as far as we know) involvement that made him get more involved. Although that doesn't explain why Kizuna had Rockoon and Doubling go after the virus without any means of containing it, or why they thought harassing other players would get them anywhere.
Zetto never said that he asked Kizuna to help him look for the forbidden power. Unless one assumes that based on the "favor" he mentioned. And with how vague that line is that's a pretty big assumption. As far as we know the favors he refers to in episode 10 are similar to the "favor" he refers to in episode 08, which is how refers to her joining him in the tournament.
Then why would she be asking hackers to look for the virus in the first place if he wasn't asking her to? She doesn't seem like the type to be all that interested in the thing otherwise.
Their character backgrounds explain why they're working together, but that's not the point. She obviously has an invested interest in the forbidden power, because nobody would take on all the responsibilities she does as a "favor". Everything from how Kizuna and Zetto talk to each other about her running things, and her getting him to spy for her. To it being outright stated in her and Zetto's character backgrounds that she's the mastermind behind the whole hacker operation says she is main person organizing everything. That's practically Word of God.
She still has no actual motivation for going after it besides Zetto's "favors" and nothing about her that we've seen would indicate that she'd have any reason to go after it independently. Plus her character breakdown states that their interactions "imply a deep history between the two", meaning that she may only be hiring the hackers and involving herself in this because he asked her to. And right now, there's really nothing to indicate otherwise.
Yes she does. The breakdowns also say "Zetto and Kizuna (who took on Zetto’s role as the hacker boss “Voltarius”) were working together to try and covertly find this virus they were familiar with and erase it, so people like Alpha wouldn’t be harmed by it". So she has the same history with the forbidden power as Zetto does, and would have a reason to start finding it and ask Zetto to work with her.
If she had some actual stake in the plan, there would be no reason for Zetto to ask her favors to do things that would benefit that goal. All she really seems to care about is his wellbeing in dealing with it, so she seems to be only involved in this for Zetto's sake. Thus why it seems highly unlikely that she'd be just be running this whole hacking operation independent of Zetto's plans.
They're both doing it for the sake of players like Alpha not getting hurt. And anyway If Zetto/Kirb had any stake in Kizuna's plans he wouldn't be so obliviously unaware of them at every point in the story they come up. The events of 05 especially show that she didn't even give him a heads up about some of those plans since they interfered with his own. So he doesn't exactly show any control over what she does. And she tells him to do more things than the other way around.
Again, if they both had the same amount of stake in it, there would be no need for any sort of favors, because they'd be working towards a goal they both cared about. Zetto asking Kizuna favors = her hiring and directing the hackers according to his plans. Zetto is the one who has the known connection to the virus, Kizuna, so far, isn't. Plus nothing in Episode 05 interfered with his plans, since it was all about riling up the virus so Zetto could fight it. And she hasn't told him to do anything outside of simply use her as help or being careful. If anything, they're partners, but Zetto's the one with the beef, while Kizuna's just helping him with his personal drama with the virus. If she had any concern for the safety of players other than Zetto, she'd have said so in their dialogue other than what is basically "Sorry the people I hired weren't any help, you should let me help you. Oh, you don't want my help. Well, be careful."
And again it's stated they're working together on it mutually. And it's stated that she takes the role of voltarius in this iteration, which is pretty much running the entire thing. Whether you like it or not you can see she's pretty much organizing the entire thing, coming up with the plans, and hiring all the hackers just watching the show. Meanwhile Kirb just hangs out with his friends for a majority of the season. For her to be okay with that it makes more sense that she's the one who came up with the idea. She wouldn't take on all that responsibility unless she had a vested interest in it as well. Nobody's takes on all the work for a project that someone else is invested in while they go goofing off with their friends without the relationship turning sour, unless they're also invested in it. She also doesn't have to be asked to do him a favor, people can do favors willingly. And even then we don't know what the favors are. They could be something completely mundane. Again he called the tournament a favor and that was pretty ordinary.
Being Voltarius doesn't automatically mean she's running everything. Even Zetto in the original version wasn't running everything when he was Voltarius, since he was just doing what EXE wanted, but without his knowledge. And AGAIN, how would they be favors if they were things that benefitted her own goals? Why would Zetto need favors from someone with their own invested interest? If she had an invested interest, she'd just do it because she was interested and it helped her, not because someone asked a favor. But because Zetto is asking for favors, the only reason she's doing it because they have a history. Nothing about any of her behavior points to anything other than she's doing it because Zetto asked and she knows Zetto. And "whether you like it or not" (since apparently this about preferences now) there are some people who are just that dedicated to helping their friends, and apparently Kizuna is one of them.
What I meant about whether you like it or not is that regardless of what you think what we pretty much see is her running everything and telling everyone what to do, utilizing all their resources, and networking with all the hackers. It's not simply for being the voltarius archetype. That's pretty much what she does, and what the character backgrounds say she does as the employer of the hackers. She also doesn't need to be asked to do him a favor. Zetto could be calling it that because that's how he speaks. She can help him of her own volition without him ever asking. Also the plan I'm referring to in episode 05 is Kirb's asking Alpha to join him in the tournament. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense to plan to ask him that if you're also aware of a plan to have someone attack him on the same day. Those plans kind of disrupt each other.
But then that gets negated when it turns out that she's doing all of it as a favor to Zetto. There's really no other reason for them to get the hackers other than helping get the virus (or if there was, it's never been established), and that's been Zetto's plan all along, so this is all for Zetto's plan, hence Zetto is in charge. As for the favors, I wasn't referring to whether or not Zetto was asking. I meant that if Kizuna gets something out of doing it (which she would if she had a stake in it outside of helping Zetto) it ceases to be a favor. Thus the whole use of hackers is a favor to Zetto. Also, if I remember right, Kirb didn't start thinking about asking Alpha to join him until the episode after that. And really, there's a lot of holes in Zetto and Kizuna's plan besides that, but I don't think they'd deliberately try to make separate plans that end up conflicting, otherwise we'd hear about that when they talk about it in Episode 10. Having plans that conflict seems like something to discuss when having a Big Reveal in the story.
It's possible that Kirbopher wouldn't have entered the tournament as Zetto if Alpha had agreed to join with him. One gets the impression episode 05 was the first time he had logged in as Zetto at all for months. And he only did so because the forbidden power went out of control. He also refers to Kizuna joining with him in the tournament as a "favor", suggesting that he asked her at the last second. Apologizing to Alpha and joining with him in the tournament probably would have been his first choice. On another note if Zetto's aware of all the hacker's plans his actions during the gemini tournament are all kinds of contradictory since he disrupts the hacker's plans simply because their cheating/stealing was making the tournament less fun for him. There's also episode 05 when Kirb decides to ask Alpha to team up with him on the same day Tigerlilly decides to provoke Alpha into using his virus power on her. Which makes it seem like he's not on the same page as she is.
Confirmed. Zetto's character breakdown states that Kirbopher/Zetto's player created the Kirbopher account to enjoy TOME as a game and make new friends. The antagonistic role he plays later happened unintentionally, when the other four got wrapped up in a mess he wanted to prevent.