- That last point was probably Jossed by the 2/26/08, which revealed that the Oracle Hunter was Luna's sister, not Dominic's. it is still possible that she's Donovan's daughter, but if she is, that would most definitely be even more squick-inducing than the whole "Dominic vs. the Virus" storyarc
- How so? If she's related to both, it doesn't mean Dom and Luna are related to each other. The fact that she's a sociopath who tried to kill Dom (twice) would aso tend to put a dampener on any feelings of familial love. At worst, it's like two step-sibs who hook up during adulthood.
- Uh...where?
- Seriously, it might be something to shake things up.
- At least in his most recent battle with the Infernomancer, he's living up to his Fan Nickname of "Collateral Damage Man". And his default plan is "throw chaos at something until it explodes".
- Destruction is a subsection of chaos. So... yes, he is the "Champion of Destruction," as well as the Champion of Anarchy, and any other ideal related to chaos.
- Not necessarily. When we're introduced to the planes, it's stated that the Chaos and Destruction are separate planes. Considering the circumstances under which Celesto became a Champion however (And more importantly, what the cause he was championing was trying to achieve), it seems likely that he was also a champion of destruction anyway.
- Destruction is a subsection of chaos. So... yes, he is the "Champion of Destruction," as well as the Champion of Anarchy, and any other ideal related to chaos.
- This troper didn't see it as romantic love, but he definitely loved her.
Well, think about it this way. When Gregory tried to fight Caylin Bren, Caylin was immune to white magic (most infernomancers are weak to it). Caylin then says something about chaos gets stronger from chaos. Fast forward to the War in Hell story arc. Notice who was nowhere to be found? Caylin Bren and the Demon of Chaos. Now, we know that not all the demon lords died because Karnak later claims to have "sealed the powers" of the surviving demon lords, presumably using his own power combined with that of the three he killed (Toxxel, Sirrilith, Ba'aleth). But like Caylin said... rules don't really apply to Chaos.
Oh, remember when Donovan predicted that "that loony" might somehow be saved? Yeah, Mookie likes his foreshadowing.
- Now that you mention it, it does seem odd that the Demon of Chaos didn't show up when the entire cult devoted to him popped into Hell. Presumably, he would have had the best claim to their souls.
- I mean, Milov here once, upon finding out is girlfriend was cheating on him, flipped out, destroyed a house, damn near murdered his friend Dominic who only helped him find this out, and slashed the throat of (an illusionary) Jayden. Loyalty, compassion, restraint are not things that come by easily.
- They're not things that always come easy for normal humans either.
- Yeah, but there's a difference between living these ideals because they're ideals worth living up to, and living up to these ideals because you're not actively trying to be a complete asshat.
- Wait... so you're complaining that Mookie subverts "Planet of hats" for his werewolves?
- No, I'm complaining that there is even the claim that a hat is on the table. It gets to be a really big sense of Informed Ability, the same way a character is referred to as being nice when every scene they're in, they are insulting someone.
- Wait, check that, I'm complaining because many of these werewolf cultural ideals are only introduced when Milov is telling Nimmel how awesome he is, which is made even more aggravating on the back of an arc in which almost every werewolf is shamelessly picking on the most disenfranchised members of their society and attacking each other with minimal provocation (while the ideal that wasn't just introduced still had people shamelessly trying to drive wedges between friends and a bit more shamefully abandoning friends for poon potential). So, unless this is a setup for Milov to get some serious egg on his face, or at least a way for Nimmel to realize how distasteful his reasons for going to Coldfire, I'm feeling a bit miffed, so I snark.
- They're not things that always come easy for normal humans either.
- Look how many Americans actually live up to the American cultural ideal of the self-made man (or woman), and how many people in general actually behave in an honorable, fair, honest way all the time: just because a people have cultural ideas doesn't mean the majority are going to live up to it, especially college students, regardless of nationality or species.
- That certainly seems plausible, and may be true, but the explanation might not be a direct reference to anything. Rilian's disguise is magical in nature, and he explains in the next breath that the Wild Edge Territories screw with magic. His "bad experience" excuse could just be a Hand Wave to protect his disguise from warping or disappearing altogether.
- Karnak is the only male who could have had relations with Miranda besides Donovan. He had black hair as a human and neither Miranda nor Donovan have black hair, but Jacob always has had black hair. The gene for black hair is the most dominant trait of all hair colors. Ergo, if you have black hair, at least one of your parents HAD TO have had black hair. In addition: both are Jacob was until recently power-hungry and don't care who gets hurt on their way to getting it; both hate Donovan's puns and react to them the same way; and Miranda's insistence on scanning to make sure Donovan didn't have children with anyone else seems like 'the lady doth protest to much.'
- Funny enough, I had actually had this first guess the first time Dominic saw that vision of Karnak embracing Miranda.
- Not necessarily, since Miranda's mother has black and white hair in exactly the same pattern as Jacob's, although the point about black hair being genetic is a good one.
- Also note that Miranda is always the one who specifically says "you're my son" when talking to him, and Donovan is always referring to Jacob by name or reference, and does not refer to Jacob as his son.
- Jacob is the only one of his brothers with absolutely no degree of Second Sight.