How about just the simple question—-what is music? You hardly have to go far to see people denouncing 'experimental' music as not music at all. It doesn't even need to be as extreme as free jazz or contemporary classical music; people who frequently say this about music they just *don't enjoy* (hip hop being a frequent victim of this—-though more pretentious music fans will toss this at radio pop).
Hip Hop is the most frequent target of this accusation. Unsurprisingly, a large portion of said accusers are either admitted or effectively affirmed racists. The one's who aren't usually have reasons that are almost as absurd.
"Weird Al" Yankovic's version of "Trapped In The Closet," "Trapped In The Drive-Thru", is a ten-minute long song about a husband and wife going to a drive-thru, ordering their food, and paying for it. It includes moments where the wife asks for a chicken sandwich (instead of her usual cheeseburger) and the husband says, "I don't know who you are anymore!" Everything is an Epic moment. At the end, the husband freaks out because they forgot his onions.
Music genres. People will argue to death trying to define a genre or deciding whether or not a piece of music falls under this razor-thin subgenre or that one. Notable examples include:
The war over what is punk and what is not punk, beautifully exemplified by this anecdote:
You ask me, "What is punk?" I kick over a trash can and say, "This is punk." So you kick over a trash can and ask, "This is punk?" and I say, "No, that's a trend."
Ironically, the above quote is by Billie Joe Armstrong, frontman of Green Day—the band that gets unfairly maligned more than any other (save for The Offspring) in the punk war.
"What is REAL rap music?" Almost anything made after 1999 is seen as popcorn trash. On the opposite side, anything before 1999 is played-out and passe. The turning point was the time when "Gangsta rap", Alternative Rap, Political Rap, Hardcore Hip-Hop and associated genres lost popularity among casual rap listeners, causing a rift in those that followed new genres and those that preferred the old.
Heavy metal. Go to any heavy metal discussion board and there's a good chance that half of the posts are trying to decide whether a band is death metal, thrash, black metal*
so much so that at one point, it wasn't too much of a stretch to say that the only way to get taken seriously as a black metal band was to burn down a church or two
, progressive metalcore or all of them at once. The other half will be denying that the band is metal at all.
Though a positive mention of a Glam Metal or Hair Metal band may somewhat get a pass from any or all of the following: the Nostalgia Filter (depending on the band), If It's You, It's Okay (for a talented band that went through it as a phase, such as Mötley Crüe or Loudness), because it's a parody or near-parody band (Steel Panther or Tn T), or because there are some actual fans - whether of the niche fandom it still has or who are younger, new, and reevaluated a specific band as being "cool" ((W.A.S.P. and Cinderella are a couple of bands that happened to...)
Drum triggers. There are few things that drummers are quite as divided on. On one side, you have drummers who say that they're necessary to be able to hear each hit distinctly at high BPMs and that they also serve as a built-in click track to make it far easier to stay on time, as well as a guaranteed way to get a clear drum sound even in venues with awful sound; on the other side, you have drummers who adamantly refuse to use them in any way, shape, or form and see them as a get-out-of-jail-free card for bad drummers who can't play their own material but want to look like they can and a general cancer that serves as the drumming equivalent of Auto Tune. Neither side likes the other very much; the pro-trigger side sees the anti-trigger side as a bunch of ivory tower elitists who know nothing of touring and who assume that any drummer who uses triggers is too incompetent to play without them, while the anti-trigger side sees the pro-trigger side as a bunch of YouTube bedroom drummers who want to sound far better than they actually are and who only want to play fast without any regard for subtlety or dynamics. Bring it up in a drumming forum at your own peril.
Visual Kei bands or artists covering classic American rock or metal. The Serious Business reaction to this from people who aren't VK fans tends to be homophobic and outright racist. A good example of this can be found on the Youtube upload of the Extasy Summit cover of "Ace of Spades" - the only problem, technically, with it was being tuned up one bar in tempo and the singer's heavy Japanese accent, and the cover was, in effect, a jam band having fun. From the comments from some aggrieved Motörhead fans, though, you would think that everyone involved personally killed Lemmy and pissed on his grave. Never mind that Lemmy himself applauded the cover and that it featured two incredibly talented guitarists, Umemura's accent and race are far bigger issues.
Similar happened on at least one upload of Miyavi's cover of "Blow" by Nirvana.
Though, a similar incident was averted quite well on the Youtube upload of hide covering The Doors "Light My Fire," if only in a case of what could possibly seen as irresistableforce meeting immovable object: the racists and homophobes were shut down almost immediately by both hide fans AND Doors fans embarrassed over their fellow fans' behavior.
Rap feuds. Many people giggled about the "west coast/east coast" rivarly until they learned that people were actually gettingkilled over it. Rivalries have always been a part of the genre's culture for better or for worse. Even during the old school era things were dicey.
The Norwegian band TNT's original vocalist Tony Harnell left in 2006 and was replaced by Tony Mills, leading a serious Broken Base among fans. Witness this for yourself by looking at the comments for any TNT video.
'Tis a brave soul who ventures onto the Muse messageboards and asks the wrong question. If you're lucky, you'll be told to get lost. If not, you'll experience the online equivalent of a public flogging.
The Beatles' fans provide numerous examples, but John being murdered and George attacked in his home by crazed fans are the ultimate ones.
This proves to the whole world what John Lennon was trying to point out with his "more popular than Jesus" quote. It wasn't meant to prop up the Beatles or be anti-religious or blasphemous, but to point out the Serrrrrrrious Importance the media and their fanbase were placing on the "four lads of Liverpool" and every move they made in the eyes of the public. Very likely as a delibrate distraction from discussing the issues of the day and the Unwinnable war of the day. It also gives entertainment journalism its own facade of profundity.
Guitar playing, or at least the equipment required. Dropping $20 for a single handmade guitar pick (mass-produced delrin/nylon ones go for about $3/dozen for comparison's sake) isn't unheard of in the pursuit of the perfect guitar tone.
The reaction to Kanye West's interruption of Taylor Swift at the VMAs. This might be the only example of the trope that has prompted a sitting American president to weigh in.
Not only that but Kanye received death threats after the incident. Just to be clear: he interrupted someone at an award show and didn't even lay a hand on her.
Robert Johnson famously claimed to have sold his soul to the devil at the crossroads to gain his skill with the guitar.
Korean boy group leader Yunho once drank a poisoned drink made of super glue, not knowing it was sent by an anti-fan, needing to be hospitalized. The letter that came with the drink told him to "watch his mouth". What made it more frightening was that the letter and drinks targeted the rest of the members as well.
Even the simple act of listening to music can be taken too far. While having some good audio gear is a nice luxury, meeting hardcore audiophile standards of spending throwing money at handcrafted DAC's, amps designed by Nikola Tesla, headphones blessed by the Pope, and encoding all music at 24bit/192kHz can bring listenng to those old Kinks albums to new heights of paranoia. Oh, and the $1000 cables. (The link is apparently a joke, but you get the idea.) Apparently they can save your life from dimensional rifts. These examples only apply to digital audio. Analogue audio enthusiasts (yes, the British spelling is required) can be even more unmeasurably discriminating. Just remember, man, it's all about the warmer sound. Parodied by xkcdhere.
Michael Jackson. Since many casual fans (at least in the U.S.) gave up on him from the child abuse allegations of 1993 onwards, those that remained were/are often frighteningly fanatical. After he died on the cusp of a return to the concert stage, and perhaps in part because fans publicly went berserk over it, he became seriousSerious Business. Though he was better known as a tabloid freak show than a musician in his final fifteen years, all media treated his death like a big deal — bigger than protests in Iran. Tributes kept pouring in, people rushed to get tickets to his memorial service, MTV played music videos during prime hours for the first time in years, his albums completely sold out, and the United States Senate had a moment of silence to commemorate his death...never in a lifetime has a person's death triggered such huge attention worldwide. Bigger than Princess DianaPope John Paul IIEVERYONE. And now we have websites like Inner Michael which continue to stump for Jackson being one of the greatest human beings of our time.
Jon Stewart lampshaded this by showing CNN report Jackson's death, while a series of far more serious reportings (Natural disasters, murder, foreign politics) scrolled as small texts along the bottom of the screen.
The idea is played for laughs in this piece, the chief conceit of which is that by the year 2110, there is an academic discipline devoted to the study of Ke$ha's music.
Many music reviews like to draw a line in the sand over whether or not a popular music artist, piece of music and/or style is (or was) relevant in the "age of punk", "age of grunge" or "age of gangsta rap", regardless of the quality of music, or whether the artist/genre in question even needs to acknowledge those musical movements. This is even in spite of whether the general public themselvestake an active interest in whatever the next big musical revolution happens to be.
Justin Bieber among his fans and haters. His fans see him as the greatest thing ever, his haters see him as a baby eating puppy killer who is ruining music as we know it.
Release of the "Public Enemy No. 1" video by Megadeth (starring three chimps in a western setting) in November 2011 was followed by a flood of Facebook comments in the vibe of "Screw this! Chimps in a video? Metal is SERIOUS BUSINESS!"
The Loudness War, while it is a legitimately serious issue, can garner some particularly extreme reactions from audiophiles. While most listeners tend to reserve their spite for the more egregious cases (Raw Power, Californication, Vapor Trails, Songs for the Deaf, Comatose, Playing the Angel etc.), there are a lot of people who will freak out if a piece of audio hits full scale more than a handful of times, even if the end result is almost completely indistinguishable from its pre-gain state. If it's too loud, they won't listen, period, and will more than likely delete the album from their computer and/or sell/throw away the CD. One of the first articles about this phenomenon in a 1999 issue of Stereophile magazine had a veteran engineer say that he had "not heard a good sounding CD since 1993" and that "I can't listen... it's the compression that ruins it for me".
The teenager. Even though a good portion of Generation X (ie. the MTV Generation) has reached its middle ages, and it's recently been statistically demonstrated that middle-aged adults now make up the largest portion of the music buying public, music journalists and the media as a whole will always bring up a band's teen appeal. Even if it's a band like Three Days Grace, whose music is clearly aimed more at a 20-45 year old audience.
The heavy metal subgenre of black metal is this as a whole. The fanbase is full of easily-mocked people who claim that bands are only worth listening to if they have seen "real evil" or something like that.
Analog vs. digital, whether it's the medium used to record, process or create the music. You'll find even the mere mention on any gearhead forum that somebody used virtual modeling software to emulate a vintage musical instrument, microphone, guitar amplifier or recording console (even one that was digital to begin with) met with groans over authenticity, accuracy or warmth, in spite of the fact that vintage gear is aging, unreliable, hard to find and equally unaffordable, and there are many advantages to using digital for many applications, and in spite of the fact that the software now available is scarily accurate and expressive as of 2013.