History SeriousBusiness / Music

17th Apr '18 7:07:36 PM nombretomado
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* The LoudnessWar, while it ''is'' a legitimately serious issue, can garner some particularly extreme reactions from audiophiles. While most listeners tend to reserve their spite for the more {{egregious}} cases (''[[Music/TheStooges Raw Power]]'', ''[[Music/RedHotChiliPeppers Californication]]'', ''[[Music/{{Rush}} Vapor Trails]]'', ''[[Music/QueensOfTheStoneAge Songs for the Deaf]]'', ''[[Music/{{Skillet}} Comatose]]'', ''[[Music/DepecheMode Playing the Angel]]'' etc.), there are a lot of people who will freak out if a piece of audio hits full scale more than a handful of times, even if the end result is almost completely indistinguishable from its pre-gain state. If it's too loud, they won't listen, period, and will more than likely delete the album from their computer and/or sell/throw away the CD. One of the first articles about this phenomenon in a 1999 issue of ''Stereophile'' magazine had a veteran engineer say that he had "not heard a good sounding CD since 1993" and that "I can't listen... it's the compression that ruins it for me".

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* The LoudnessWar, while it ''is'' a legitimately serious issue, can garner some particularly extreme reactions from audiophiles. While most listeners tend to reserve their spite for the more {{egregious}} JustForFun/{{egregious}} cases (''[[Music/TheStooges Raw Power]]'', ''[[Music/RedHotChiliPeppers Californication]]'', ''[[Music/{{Rush}} Vapor Trails]]'', ''[[Music/QueensOfTheStoneAge Songs for the Deaf]]'', ''[[Music/{{Skillet}} Comatose]]'', ''[[Music/DepecheMode Playing the Angel]]'' etc.), there are a lot of people who will freak out if a piece of audio hits full scale more than a handful of times, even if the end result is almost completely indistinguishable from its pre-gain state. If it's too loud, they won't listen, period, and will more than likely delete the album from their computer and/or sell/throw away the CD. One of the first articles about this phenomenon in a 1999 issue of ''Stereophile'' magazine had a veteran engineer say that he had "not heard a good sounding CD since 1993" and that "I can't listen... it's the compression that ruins it for me".
7th Mar '18 8:39:47 AM nombretomado
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* The teenager. Even though a good portion of Generation X (ie. the MTV Generation) has reached its middle ages, and it's recently been ''statistically'' demonstrated that middle-aged adults now make up the largest portion of the music buying public, music journalists and the media as a whole will always bring up a band's teen appeal. Even if it's a band like ThreeDaysGrace, whose music is clearly aimed more at a 20-45 year old audience.

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* The teenager. Even though a good portion of Generation X (ie. the MTV Generation) has reached its middle ages, and it's recently been ''statistically'' demonstrated that middle-aged adults now make up the largest portion of the music buying public, music journalists and the media as a whole will always bring up a band's teen appeal. Even if it's a band like ThreeDaysGrace, Music/ThreeDaysGrace, whose music is clearly aimed more at a 20-45 year old audience.
25th Jan '18 2:36:02 AM Cryoclaste
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** Ironically, the above quote is by Billie Joe Armstrong, frontman of Music/GreenDay—the band that gets unfairly maligned more than any other (save for TheOffspring) in the punk war.

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** Ironically, the above quote is by Billie Joe Armstrong, frontman of Music/GreenDay—the band that gets unfairly maligned more than any other (save for TheOffspring) Music/TheOffspring) in the punk war.
23rd Jan '18 7:04:05 AM SeptimusHeap
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*** Either that or whether or not something is [[NoTrueScotsman "real metal" or "true metal"]] (although '''{{Manowar}}''' [[IfItsYouItsOkay does get a pass]]). And '''God fucking help you''' if you dare mention ''[[AcceptableTargets anything]]'' that can possibly be classified as NuMetal, AlternativeMetal, {{Metalcore}} or HairMetal, unless it's in as [[AccentuateTheNegative negative a light as humanly possible]]. '''''Especially the first one.'''''

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*** Either that or whether or not something is [[NoTrueScotsman "real metal" or "true metal"]] (although '''{{Manowar}}''' '''Music/{{Manowar}}''' [[IfItsYouItsOkay does get a pass]]). And '''God fucking help you''' if you dare mention ''[[AcceptableTargets anything]]'' that can possibly be classified as NuMetal, AlternativeMetal, {{Metalcore}} or HairMetal, unless it's in as [[AccentuateTheNegative negative a light as humanly possible]]. '''''Especially the first one.'''''
13th Jan '18 4:17:33 PM nombretomado
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* The idea is played for laughs in [[http://insightoutpost.com/articles/324/ this piece]], the chief conceit of which is that by the year 2110, there is an academic discipline devoted to the study of {{Kesha}}'s music.

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* The idea is played for laughs in [[http://insightoutpost.com/articles/324/ this piece]], the chief conceit of which is that by the year 2110, there is an academic discipline devoted to the study of {{Kesha}}'s Music/{{Kesha}}'s music.
24th Nov '17 9:39:06 AM nombretomado
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** This proves to the whole world what Music/JohnLennon was trying to point out with his "more popular than Jesus" quote. It wasn't meant to prop up the Beatles or be anti-religious or blasphemous, but to point out the Serrrrrrrious Importance the media and their fanbase were placing on the "four lads of Liverpool" and every move they made in the eyes of the public. [[ConspiracyTheory Very likely as a deliberate distraction from discussing the issues of the day]] and the {{Unwinnable}} war of the day. It also gives entertainment journalism its own facade of profundity.

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** This proves to the whole world what Music/JohnLennon was trying to point out with his "more popular than Jesus" quote. It wasn't meant to prop up the Beatles or be anti-religious or blasphemous, but to point out the Serrrrrrrious Importance the media and their fanbase were placing on the "four lads of Liverpool" and every move they made in the eyes of the public. [[ConspiracyTheory [[UsefulNotes/ConspiracyTheories Very likely as a deliberate distraction from discussing the issues of the day]] and the {{Unwinnable}} war of the day. It also gives entertainment journalism its own facade of profundity.
16th Jun '17 10:30:02 PM nombretomado
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** Really, anyone who is the face of pop music (especially pop music aimed for teenage girls) at any time will have that effect on people, depending on their tastes in music. It might be a combination of HypeBacklash, PeripheryDemographic and ItsPopularNowItSucks. Before Justin, it was Music/MileyCyrus and Music/TheJonasBrothers, and before that, Music/BritneySpears and Music/TheBackstreetBoys, and then before that was Music/NewKidsOnTheBlock...

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** Really, anyone who is the face of pop music (especially pop music aimed for teenage girls) at any time will have that effect on people, depending on their tastes in music. It might be a combination of HypeBacklash, PeripheryDemographic and ItsPopularNowItSucks. Before Justin, it was Music/MileyCyrus and Music/TheJonasBrothers, and before that, Music/BritneySpears and Music/TheBackstreetBoys, Music/BackstreetBoys, and then before that was Music/NewKidsOnTheBlock...
13th May '17 3:28:40 PM nombretomado
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* Music/MichaelJackson. Since many casual fans (at least in the U.S.) gave up on him from the child abuse allegations of 1993 onwards, those that remained were/are often [[CreatorWorship frighteningly fanatical]]. After he died on the cusp of a return to the concert stage, and perhaps in part because fans publicly went berserk over it, he became '''serious''' SeriousBusiness. Though he was better known as a tabloid freak show than a musician in his final fifteen years, all media treated his death like a big deal -- [[WorstNewsJudgmentEver bigger than protests in Iran]]. Tributes kept pouring in, people rushed to get tickets to his memorial service, {{MTV}} played music videos during prime hours [[Main/NetworkDecay for the first time in years]], his albums completely sold out, and the United States Senate had a moment of silence to commemorate his death...never in a lifetime has a person's death triggered such huge attention worldwide. Bigger than [[strike:Princess Diana]] [[strike:Pope John Paul II]] '''''EVERYONE'''''. And now we have websites like [[http://www.InnerMichael.com Inner Michael]] which continue to stump for Jackson being one of the greatest human beings of our time.

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* Music/MichaelJackson. Since many casual fans (at least in the U.S.) gave up on him from the child abuse allegations of 1993 onwards, those that remained were/are often [[CreatorWorship frighteningly fanatical]]. After he died on the cusp of a return to the concert stage, and perhaps in part because fans publicly went berserk over it, he became '''serious''' SeriousBusiness. Though he was better known as a tabloid freak show than a musician in his final fifteen years, all media treated his death like a big deal -- [[WorstNewsJudgmentEver bigger than protests in Iran]]. Tributes kept pouring in, people rushed to get tickets to his memorial service, {{MTV}} Creator/{{MTV}} played music videos during prime hours [[Main/NetworkDecay [[NetworkDecay for the first time in years]], his albums completely sold out, and the United States Senate had a moment of silence to commemorate his death...never in a lifetime has a person's death triggered such huge attention worldwide. Bigger than [[strike:Princess Diana]] [[strike:Pope John Paul II]] '''''EVERYONE'''''. And now we have websites like [[http://www.InnerMichael.com Inner Michael]] which continue to stump for Jackson being one of the greatest human beings of our time.
21st Feb '17 10:27:36 PM gewunomox
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* Even the simple act of listening to music can be taken too far. While having some good audio gear is a nice luxury, meeting hardcore audiophile standards of [[strike:spending]] throwing money at handcrafted DAC's, amps designed by Nikola Tesla, headphones blessed by the Pope, and encoding all music at 24bit/192kHz can bring listenng to those old [[TheKinks Kinks]] albums to new heights of paranoia. Oh, and the [[http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AKDL1-Dedicated-Link-Cable/dp/B000I1X6PM/ref=pd_sim_sbs_e_3 $1000 cables.]] (The link is apparently a joke, but you get the idea.) Apparently they can save your life from dimensional rifts. These examples only apply to digital audio. Analogue audio enthusiasts (yes, the British spelling is required) can be even more unmeasurably discriminating. Just remember, man, it's all about the ''warmer'' sound. Parodied by Webcomic/{{xkcd}} [[http://xkcd.com/841 here]].

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* Even the simple act of listening to music can be taken too far. While having some good audio gear is a nice luxury, meeting hardcore audiophile standards of [[strike:spending]] throwing money at handcrafted DAC's, amps designed by Nikola Tesla, headphones blessed by the Pope, and encoding all music at 24bit/192kHz can bring listenng to those old [[TheKinks [[Music/TheKinks Kinks]] albums to new heights of paranoia. Oh, and the [[http://www.amazon.com/Denon-AKDL1-Dedicated-Link-Cable/dp/B000I1X6PM/ref=pd_sim_sbs_e_3 $1000 cables.]] (The link is apparently a joke, but you get the idea.) Apparently they can save your life from dimensional rifts. These examples only apply to digital audio. Analogue audio enthusiasts (yes, the British spelling is required) can be even more unmeasurably discriminating. Just remember, man, it's all about the ''warmer'' sound. Parodied by Webcomic/{{xkcd}} [[http://xkcd.com/841 here]].
11th Feb '17 10:50:43 AM Morgenthaler
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*** Though a positive mention of a HairMetal band ''may'' somewhat get a pass from any or all of the following: the NostalgiaFilter (depending on the band), IfItsYouItsOkay (for a talented band that went through it as a phase, such as Music/MotleyCrue or Music/{{Loudness}}), because it's a parody or near-parody band (SteelPanther or TnT), or because there are some actual fans - whether of the niche fandom it still has or who are younger, new, and reevaluated a specific band as being "cool" ({{Music/WASP}} and {{Music/Cinderella}} are a couple of bands that happened to...)

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*** Though a positive mention of a HairMetal band ''may'' somewhat get a pass from any or all of the following: the NostalgiaFilter (depending on the band), IfItsYouItsOkay (for a talented band that went through it as a phase, such as Music/MotleyCrue or Music/{{Loudness}}), because it's a parody or near-parody band (SteelPanther (Music/SteelPanther or TnT), Music/TnT), or because there are some actual fans - whether of the niche fandom it still has or who are younger, new, and reevaluated a specific band as being "cool" ({{Music/WASP}} and {{Music/Cinderella}} are a couple of bands that happened to...)
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