"She used to be good. Now she's becoming popular!"
—Will Shakespeare, Irregular Webcomic!
"Fashion is a form of ugliness so intolerable that we have to alter it every six months."
"Oh no. Sci-fi is getting mainstream recognition? This could be problematic. Now how will I feel superior by reading and watching material from a previously marginalized and ignored genre if it suddenly becomes mainstream and thus cool to like it? I know, I'll insist that anything that is recognized by the mainstream is junk and only watch and read obscure sci-fi, while insisting the genre was better when it wasn't distilled for the lowest common denominator. Whoo, glad I solved THAT problem."
— Comment on io9.com, in response to a post titled "Science Fiction Is About To Take The Giant Leap To Oscar Recognition"
Delving deep into my letterbox when I discovered
Fan-mail for MC Front (noo!)
It kind of hovered
Before my vision
I made a decision
To open it up;
It said "Yo Frontalot, you suck!"
Whew, I was worried for a second that I'd started to earn love
Seeking all my indie points burned up...
— MC Frontalot, Indier Than Thou
In Real Life, money makes the world go around. It's all well and good talking about how something should be about 'The Art Of It', and not about the money, but in the real world You. Need. Money. That nice little guitar of his that Mr. Crowe uses to strum out his art and all that? Yeah, you need to keep that thing in good shape, you need to clean it, you need to replace broken strings, you need food so the muscles in your arms don't atrophy and you're incapable of lifting a guitar... that being said, of course I'm not saying one should only be about the money, but what exactly is preventing Crowe from making money and revolutionizing music? ... take artists like Michelangelo or Leonardo da Vinci; they tended to get paid for their work. You need money to survive in the real world. But in this comic, they're not living in the real world; they're living in a fool's paradise where they feel the need to rebel against their privileged environments because of 'The Man' or some other bullcrap.
The first song I heard didn't sound so bad, and I said to myself: "Hey! Perhaps I am still fairly hip after all!" And then the deejay came on and said, apologetically: "I realize that song was mainstream." He said "mainstream" the way you would say "composed by Phoenicians." Then he played a song entitled—I am not making this up—"Detachable Penis."
— Dave Barry, "The Old-Timers Game"
Thou shalt not stop liking a band simply because they've become popular.
— Dan Le Sac vs Scroobius Pip, Thou Shalt Always Kill
Nobody goes there any more. It's too crowded.
— Yogi Berra
I was uncool before uncool was cool.
Nine Inch Nails were the best and most popular industrial band of all time; as a consequence, industrial purists usually assert that Nine Inch Nails aren't an industrial band at all (this is a counterintuitive phenomenon that tends to occur with purists from all subcultures, musical or otherwise).
— Chuck Klosterman
One should always support the independents. At least until they start making money, the soulless sellout fucks!
Do you think that they're too cool now,
That being popular is lame?
You're the ones who made them popular,
All the songs are still the same!
— Five Iron Frenzy, "Handbook for the Sellout"
"The truly coolest people like what they like, simply because they like it, without any regard for how popular it may (or may not) be."
— A poster on one of the forums at Subeta.net
"Never doubt the power of fangirls and their power to make people hate entire franchises and genres merely because they like them."
— a Sad but true quote on Deviant ART.
"If you work in entertainment and you make money, then you're a sellout."
— South Park.
I'm off to listen to bands you kids have never heard of, and when they go major I'll be there to complain about how much they've sold out!
— Uzuki Yashiro, The World Ends with You
H.A.T.E.R.S. = Having Anger Towards Everyone Reaching Success
— A Tweet
"For the first twelve weeks of Jaws, people were thrilled by it. Six months later, they were saying that no film that made that amount of money could be any good."
You just KNOW that if Justin Bieber or Lady Gaga were unknown artists, you'd be flamed for NOT liking them, not flamed FOR liking them,
Brian: It wouldn't be medieval fantasy without a little bit of whoring.
Brad: If you're watching Game of Thrones, you can't joke about midget porn anymore. They're bringing midget porn into the mainstream, it's not kinky anymore.
— Jade Regent, episode 16, from RPGMP3
Iconoclasm is fetishized by gamers. They hate to think of conforming to agendas, even when that agenda is, "don't be a tool."
"All the time I hear that so-and-so happens to be a better game than whatever simply because they catered to a niche demographic instead of 'trying to appeal to everyone'. (And I put that in Air quotes). The funny thing is...people only say that if they happen to be in small niche demographic. For the rest of us outside it? It's just a piece of trash because there's nothing for us. But then I realized why they like that so much...it makes them feel special somehow. They don't want to be on equal footing with others...they just want to be the one percent."
"SUCCESS, n. The one unpardonable sin against one's fellows."
Lois: I think you just got to be in the "out" group. Whoever's on top, whoever's in power, whoever's successful, you gotta be on the other side or you don't feel like the smartest guy in the room. All you are, my dear, is a contrarian.
Brian: Oh, please, you could not be more off base.
Lois:: Oh, yeah? Let me ask, what did you think of the movie Titanic?
Brian: Horrible, one of the worst movies ever made.
Lois: Mm-hm, what about Slumdog Millionaire?
Brian: Overrated, just a terrible movie.
Brian: Actually, not a bad film. You know, as classically structured cinema, Cocktail was one of the best films of its era.
Lois: You make me sick, Brian.
What people leave out when they start waxing poetic about the days when bands sold tapes out of a van after shows in dingy nightclubs is the part where their favorite musicians also keep a day job and die of a tooth infection because they can't afford health insurance.
Wanting to be part of your own little group is perfectly understandable; wanting the entity that brought you together to enjoy as little success as possible in life is not.
I get that some of it has to do with the timeless "indie label vs. major label" debate, but plenty of bands have made the leap to a major label with perfectly legitimate results. Some have spent their entire careers on major labels. It's one thing if the band of your early-days yearning just went on to make some shitty albums. That totally happens — Google "The Replacements" for proof.
But hating a band just because they make a little more money than they used to doesn't mean you're a "real fan," it means you're a selfish prick.